Marcus Trescothick admits Ashes cheating

[bulldogtragic]

From the HUN: (exert only)

FORMER England batsman Marcus Trescothick has admitted in a new book he illegally shone the ball by sucking on breath fresheners during the 2005 Ashes series.

The virtually unplayable reverse swing generated by pace bowlers Simon Jones and Andrew Flintoff - which was crucial to England's Ashes triumph over Australia - may have been caused by Murray Mints, which, as with other artificial substances, is illegal.

The saliva from these mints aided swinging, Trescothick wrote in his autobiography Coming Back To Me.



PISS WEAK!!!!!!!!!

[ledge]

Will the Aussie papers ever get over losing the ashes once in twenty odd years??
Blaming mints now and MAY have caused it, written as if Trescothick had done scientific experiments on Murray mints and knew it would happen.
Ran the story 3 years ago when it happened and didnt get any interest in it then.
I would take this article on what it is, digging for some controversy so people will buy his book.

Funny this comes out as the poms got more medals than the Aussies in the Olympics.
Best thing to happen was Aussies losing that ashes series, made it all mean something again.

[The Coon Dog]

Every bowler I ever played cricket with used his own saliva to shine the ball, most used chewy.

Hardly the crime of the century.

[bulldogtragic]

Hang on a sec. If this were the Pakistanis.... :)

[hujsh]

I remember after the Ashes someone wrote about how counties used mints to get reverse swing.

The Poms proclaimed "we aren't cheaters" even when no one really accused them.

Makes sense that they were so sus.

TSK TSK TSK Pommies.:p

[hujsh]

Every bowler I ever played cricket with used his own saliva to shine the ball, most used chewy.

Hardly the crime of the century.

But minties are used specially for swing. The blokes in the counties yelled at an Aussie for chewing his because he was wasting it.

[ledge]

Wonder if it was spearmint or peppermint?
Might use it at club level

[hujsh]

Wonder if it was spearmint or peppermint?
Might use it at club level

See, it's a Pommy thing.

[ledge]

Might chew one when i am batting see if it helps me when i swing my bat, because i havent got near one in years.
Hey theres a thought If i chew one when batting will it negate the bowlers swing?

[hujsh]

Are you testing for more strategies for the poms to use?

[ledge]

Are you testing for more strategies for the poms to use?

I promise i wont bowl underarm though.

[The Coon Dog]

I promise i wont bowl underarm though.

Might need to add a letter S to the beginning of your username! :D

[Ozza]

As a cheeky bunch of 15 year olds, we had a kid in our Under 16s team who fielded in the gully who had a small tube of sunscreen in his pocket to help me 'shine the ball'.

Geez I took some wickets that season!!

[hujsh]

I promise i wont bowl underarm though.

clap clap clap.

nice.

If your cricket team could sledge like that you knows how far they could go

[hujsh]

Hang on a sec. If this were the Pakistanis.... :)

"To me it is a total hypocrisy on what is deemed to be ball tampering. When Pakistan were accused of ball tampering it was built into something that was abhorrent. Ball tampering is ball tampering whether you scratch the ball or whether you deliberately put in sugary saliva on it to aid its shine so I don't see any difference between one and the either.

"There are huge inconsistencies for one side to complain about the other scratching the ball when they are deliberately sucking sugary sweets to shine the ball," -Angus Fraser

make what you will of the whole thing there does need to be some definition of what's legal

[ledge]

Problem with the mint chewing incident, is there any actual solid proof that it does do things to a ball?
Seriously dont know if its the sugar or just the fact its saliva.
I was always told to have something in my mouth to chew just so you didnt get a dry mouth while standing in the sun for 4 hours.
Mints i would imagine would be one of the things in a players gobs since the year dot.
Other point is eg Ricky Ponting is always chewing gum, he shines the ball as well, thats sugary too.
Mints, chewy or whatever to me its just trying to make something of nothing.
As I said in a previous post its just to make people buy his book.

[hujsh]

Problem with the mint chewing incident, is there any actual solid proof that it does do things to a ball?
Seriously dont know if its the sugar or just the fact its saliva.
I was always told to have something in my mouth to chew just so you didnt get a dry mouth while standing in the sun for 4 hours.
Mints i would imagine would be one of the things in a players gobs since the year dot.
Other point is eg Ricky Ponting is always chewing gum, he shines the ball as well, thats sugary too.
Mints, chewy or whatever to me its just trying to make something of nothing.
As I said in a previous post its just to make people buy his book.

Obviously, but that doesn't mean it isn't true

[1eyedog]

As a cheeky bunch of 15 year olds, we had a kid in our Under 16s team who fielded in the gully who had a small tube of sunscreen in his pocket to help me 'shine the ball'.

Geez I took some wickets that season!!

Yeah ole Banana Boat SPF 16 does the trick;)

[Chops]

England cheated by letting us play Katich and Clarke for so long in that series and leaving the cricket ball on the ground for McGrath to twist his ankle on.

[ledge]

Very well said Ernie.
I cant wait for Trescothicks next book where he claims he killed 5-7 prostitutes in the West End in the 1880s, and the Australian press jump on that one.

[Stevo]

It's a beat up to promote and sell his book. Nothing more than that.

[Chops]

Very well said Ernie.
I cant wait for Trescothicks next book where he claims he killed 5-7 prostitutes in the West End in the 1880s, and the Australian press jump on that one.

While the English press is so much fairer and unbias.

[ledge]

The english press are so lethal on theyre own kind, they dont have room in papers for others.

[Chops]

The english press are so lethal on theyre own kind, they dont have room in papers for others.
Sorry I don't beleive that. They are worse than ours here.
They might be scaving on their own but are very patriotic when required.

Eg "Hands off cobber"

[ledge]

Sorry I don't beleive that. They are worse than ours here.
They might be scaving on their own but are very patriotic when required.

Eg "Hands off cobber"

Hey i agree English press are the worst in the world, and very patriotic as are the Australian press, its a healthy rivalry, but this Trescothick book, what a load of rot.

Wish i had shares in Murray Mints though before cricket season starts here.
Wonder if Murray Mints paid him for writing that bit?

[hujsh]

Hey i agree English press are the worst in the world, and very patriotic as are the Australian press, its a healthy rivalry, but this Trescothick book, what a load of rot.

Wish i had shares in Murray Mints though before cricket season starts here.
Wonder if Murray Mints paid him for writing that bit?

Didn't show last Summer.