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Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Seems everything this bloke is writing about is negative about us, is their any truth in it or is he just plucking at straws and blowing it out of proportion ?
For those who haven't heard he has said the senior group has lost Macca, has said it on a few occasions now, but from what I read on here and other places I haven't heard it at all, only him.
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He's been bashing us all year on the AFL site and Triple M, not sure how far back his vendetta rages though. Very little respect for him as a journalist, I've always dismissed it as the typical deflections of a North Melbourne supporter.
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To me he seems more concerned with being first with news rather than being correct with news.
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I don't like his 'journalism'. It seems most outside of the boys club on 9/MMM don't either. Just tune out when he's around.
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I grew my hair long so people would stop saying that I looked like him.
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Twodogs
I grew my hair long so people would stop saying that I looked like him.
Gold
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Really!
You are indeed in trouble ;)
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Dicky Knee of journalism. Spends a lot of time making 'Big calls' and then getting on the back foot in deference to 'Gaz.' Yeah, but Gaz....Gaz....I dunno Gaz....
Probably picked the Swans to win the final.
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Originally Posted by
Twodogs
I grew my hair long so people would stop saying that I looked like him.
Your a better journo two.
Barrett, Ralph Malph Denham just many of the woeful accredited ( says laughing) AFL journalists
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Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
I would suggest there's a little truth in what he says about the senior players not being too happy with McCartney (and vice versa), and considering they've put in ordinary results this year and lack leadership quality when things are tough I'm not surprised there's some tension.
We've been through this to death though, and Barrett is probably dramatising the issue more than anything else.
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He is a terrible journalist and a really ordinary character.
His view of the work is too generate scandal and muck rake, which most Clubs cough up opportunities to do throughout a few seasons. Player behaviour, coach sackings, board turmoil etc - its his bread and butter. Obviously he had us pegged to give him something to run with but as a Club under Macca and PG we've been extremely steadfast in our approach. Stubborn even. In us, he has met a force equally committed to our task as he is to his. While he is rummaging through bins, snivelling and scheming we've just kept trotting out the same message come hell or high water. It has got under his skin.
Accused the Club of not having "the guts" to make a change in the coaching dept. Prying away at rumours of player dissent in recent weeks. Its all jus an attempt to create a BIG story for him to break over summer. Yet all he is getting is a united front and a consistent message. Making the bloke look as stupid as he in all reality is.
Here is an "IF / THEN" for you Damo:
"If a truck ever hit you. Then, the driver would probably reverse over your remains." Such is the regard in which you are held by the genuine fans and good people of the game.
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PG doesn't like the club to respond to Rumours good or bad but I think sometimes not responding can be a bad thing, I remember him saying only when trades are done we will discuss them otherwise nothing to be said.
Basically let the media say what they like true or not, we aren't ruled by rumour or innuendo and won't spend our time responding.
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Big Grand Final day Sonof? :)
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Originally Posted by
jeemak
I would suggest there's a little truth in what he says about the senior players not being too happy with McCartney (and vice versa), and considering they've put in ordinary results this year and lack leadership quality when things are tough I'm not surprised there's some tension.
We've been through this to death though, and Barrett is probably dramatising the issue more than anything else.
A lot of the tension comes from having a poor playing list sadly lacking in depth. I would like the MC to really study the foot skills of Hawthorn today. Our lack of skill is a major factor in us being a bottom four team. We have too many players who do not dispose of the ball correctly. Unless this important area is urgently addressed we will continue to struggle.
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Yes and of course a change was made he'd be accusing the club of allowing the tail leading the dog( no pun intended)
Just muck raking shit inconsequential drivel which he seems to make an art form of .
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Nuggety Back Pocket
A lot of the tension comes from having a poor playing list sadly lacking in depth. I would like the MC to really study the foot skills of Hawthorn today. Our lack of skill is a major factor in us being a bottom four team. We have too many players who do not dispose of the ball correctly. Unless this important area is urgently addressed we will continue to struggle.
Not only that they need to recruit good decision makers .
Looking at Hawthorn they always seem to be able to look inside 50 and find a player.
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Nuggety Back Pocket
A lot of the tension comes from having a poor playing list sadly lacking in depth. I would like the MC to really study the foot skills of Hawthorn today. Our lack of skill is a major factor in us being a bottom four team. We have too many players who do not dispose of the ball correctly. Unless this important area is urgently addressed we will continue to struggle.
Absolutely.
One of the good things about sitting in the nosebleed section (I was pretty much 15m towards the goals from the base of the scoreboard at the Ponsford End) is you get a good feel for the gaps players get between themselves and their opponents all over the ground because you're so bloody high up!
What I noticed was that Hawthorn with two to three metres to spare used the ball by hand immeasurably better than the Swans. This was all skill and decisiveness rolled into one.
Given three to five metres space they hit targets regularly by foot. Short, long and in between.
Our drafting now needs to concentrate on these area as we have too many players that can't do the latter, even if we are getting better and better at the former.
The Hawks of today are light years ahead of our very skillful sides of the 2008-2010 era - which we've dropped away from in recent times. We have such a long way to go, and the only way we'll get there is via the draft. Recruiting good decision makers and good kicks is so important for us now. If we land a tall with our first pick, and end up with two or three second rounders polish needs to be front of mind with the second round picks.
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Umm this post above seems to Have gone off course, this is a thread about Barrett and his picking on us and what is the reason for it, not about hawks win :-)
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Sorry Tiger.
It's branched out, so to get it back on track - Barrett is bad, and I don't like him.
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Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
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Originally Posted by
ledge
Seems everything this bloke is writing about is negative about us, is their any truth in it or is he just plucking at straws and blowing it out of proportion ?
For those who haven't heard he has said the senior group has lost Macca, has said it on a few occasions now, but from what I read on here and other places I haven't heard it at all, only him.
I don't like giving this topic any more oxygen than it deserves but Barrett said a fair bit more than this on his AFL.com.au segment with Gary Lyon early on in the week. It was poor form by Barrett but also by Lyon to not question the allegation that Barrett was making. In particular, he claimed that the "rumblings were real and that they are also legitimate" and that it's not a happy place. Is it Barrett determining the legitimacy ? Why didn't Lyon challenge anything about this accusation ? He (Barrett) then made the call that our Club should move Macca on but our Club "does not have enough guts" to do anything about it.
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Clearly he dislikes Macca. For what reason I do not know.
Having said that I would be gobsmacked if the club was a happy place to be around at the minute. We had a terrible season that never got going. Been bad for 4 years running now. If the senior players are happy there is something wrong with them.
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
Clearly he dislikes Macca. For what reason I do not know.
Having said that I would be gobsmacked if the club was a happy place to be around at the minute. We had a terrible season that never got going. Been bad for 4 years running now. If the senior players are happy there is something wrong with them.
Maybe he just sees Brendan and our Club as easy targets for his journalistic style. I see it as simply baiting us for a response. It frustrates journos immensely when they get nothing coming back.
We erred earlier in the season when calling out Jackson's reason for being demoted through media channels.
Look how they fed on it for weeks and unfortunately probably will for years to come. I say give them nothing.
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I think we need to keep at the back of our minds that he's not completely full of shit and that there might be something to it.
Just as an option to fall back on, nothing more and nothing less. I mean really, is it that unreasonable to suggest the coach and the senior players who in each other's minds aren't performing to the required level aren't happy with each other and aren't getting along?
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Just being captain obvious
For me if we're battling next season it's going to go from a whisper to a roar.
If we have more than a few disgruntled players it will become a mutiny .
Which will result in only one outcome, and to say we need a good start next season is an understatement .
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jeemak
I think we need to keep at the back of our minds that he's not completely full of shit and that there might be something to it.
Just as an option to fall back on, nothing more and nothing less. I mean really, is it that unreasonable to suggest the coach and the senior players who in each other's minds aren't performing to the required level aren't happy with each other and aren't getting along?
No one would be surprised following an end of season review, after the season we had, that some tensions and words didn't surface between players and coach. That's a good thing. But when you have said journo sprouting that our Club does not have the guts to move Brendan on following what he claims as 'legitimate' then that's taking it to another level.
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Remi Moses
Just being captain obvious
For me if we're battling next season it's going to go from a whisper to a roar.
If we have more than a few disgruntled players it will become a mutiny .
Which will result in only one outcome, and to say we need a good start next season is an understatement .
Can only hope it's a mutiny of the sort that nearly saw Thompson out the door before leading Geelong to three flags.
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Barret is a prize goose, who gives a toss what this bloke says, or for that matter anyone who has any thing to do with the footy show.
They push their own agenda and really have no credibility at all.
As if anyone would pay any attention to the plastic Brayshaw or Lyon compared to our very credible President's in Smorgon or Gordon.
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Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Barrett is like Caro, makes up stories from rumours and the odd one is right then hangs his hat on it.
That's how I see him anyway, he has made a few bad calls over the years.
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He's the typical of modem journalist. Smash the small clubs because even if he's wrong he won't be held to account and kiss the dick of the big club on the up at the time.
Everyone in the middle he'd just hedges his bets in case they're up next year.
He starts a rumour and then clowns like Garry Lyon and Matthew Lloyd take it the next step so they don't look like they're outside the loop.
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ledge
Barrett is like Caro, makes up stories from rumours and the odd one is right then hangs his hat on it.
That's how I see him anyway, he has made a few bad calls over the years.
I think Caro has better sauces than Barrett .
Can someone get the bloke sole polyfila
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Caro as a journalist is pretty spot on.
Not every journo is good at TV or radio, Caro is good at print. When she's against our team I hate it, as she's often right, when she's against our opposition I watch intently.
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ledge
Barrett is like Caro, makes up stories from rumours and the odd one is right then hangs his hat on it.
That's how I see him anyway, he has made a few bad calls over the years.
That's not true about Caro. She's far too professional to make up stories from rumours.
As for Barrett that's perhaps another story. But has anyone considered he may actually be right?
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"Caro" and "Professional".......there's two words you don't normally see in the same sentence. I'd describe her more as an "over-embellisher" than a "maker-upperer".
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The Doctor
That's not true about Caro. She's far too professional to make up stories from rumours.
As for Barrett that's perhaps another story. But has anyone considered he may actually be right?
I don't agree with the vast majority of criticism Caro cops, some of the tangents she gets on are over the top but she's the best of a bad lot for mine. It's a sad day for football journalism when Mark Robinson occupies what was the most coveted position.
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Barrett is a poor mans Hutchy. I think that says it all!
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lemmon
I don't agree with the vast majority of criticism Caro cops, some of the tangents she gets on are over the top but she's the best of a bad lot for mine. It's a sad day for football journalism when Mark Robinson occupies what was the most coveted position.
My problem with Caro is that she has never seemed interested in the football itself. All you ever hear is negativity and politics. Maybe she sees it as the niche she can fill as a football journo, but it really comes across as someone who is simply searching for drama.
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Scorlibo
My problem with Caro is that she has never seemed interested in the football itself. All you ever hear is negativity and politics. Maybe she sees it as the niche she can fill as a football journo, but it really comes across as someone who is simply searching for drama.
Her articles over the past few days have been very positive!
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The Doctor
That's not true about Caro. She's far too professional to make up stories from rumours.
As for Barrett that's perhaps another story. But has anyone considered he may actually be right?
Of course he is .
The worlds flat in his world
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Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
My problem with Caro is that she has never seemed interested in the football itself. All you ever hear is negativity and politics. Maybe she sees it as the niche she can fill as a football journo, but it really comes across as someone who is simply searching for drama.
Because that's her role . You've 1000 odd others to report to ask the same questions 10 times or more.
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Scotty Gullan ( follows the club) was asked what's the rumblings on a Richter scale.
He answered its a stomach ache proportions .
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Remi Moses
Because that's her role . You've 1000 odd others to report to ask the same questions 10 times or more.
Perhaps that's the problem......she seeks out drama. Although some would argue she creates the drama.