Ben Cousins again

[Eastdog]

I don't want to get to political but do you think decriminalizing drugs can decrease addiction and reduce crime.

[GVGjr]

I don't want to get to political but do you think decriminalizing drugs can decrease addiction and reduce crime.

Lets stick to the discussion about Ben thanks.

[Before I Die]

Yes, in my book, it does.

And so do I, as I stated in my post. Please don't quote out of context.

And you think he hasn't? Staggering.

Actually, I think he has, the problem is that he doesn't. Perhaps if I had said that "he has been protected by others for too long at his own expense" then you would have found the intent of my post clearer.


Cousins behaves like he is bullet proof and for most of his life he has been. Unless he realises very soon just how much harm is being done, then this will end badly.

[AndrewP6]

And so do I, as I stated in my post. Please don't quote out of context.

You stated you feel pity, I highlighted compassion. I view them differently.

Unless he realises very soon just how much harm is being done, then this will end badly.

We can agree on that.

[Topdog]

He should never have left Melbourne to go back to Perth. Really stupid thing to do.

[AndrewP6]

He should never have left Melbourne to go back to Perth. Really stupid thing to do.

Agreed, that was likely the wrong move. Perhaps he thought being nearer to home would be good, and chemical dependency impacts on your reasoning and judgment.. Still, it has been downhill since.

[Eastdog]

Agreed, that was likely the wrong move. Perhaps he thought being nearer to home would be good. Still, it has been downhill since.

What if Cousins stayed in football when he retired.

[AndrewP6]

What if Cousins stayed in football when he retired.

Still don't think the environment would've been conducive to recovery.

[Eastdog]

Still don't think the environment would've been conducive to recovery.

So pretty much either way it would not make a difference.

[AndrewP6]

So pretty much either way it would not make a difference.

Too complex an issue for an easy fix.

[Eastdog]

Too complex an issue for an easy fix.

Absolutely. It is not just a simple fix. It takes a long time and is very hard and if he wants to get better he has to do the recovery/rehab the right way.

[Desipura]

Absolutely. It is not just a simple fix. It takes a long time and is very hard and if he wants to get better he has to do the recovery/rehab the right way.

Sadly I think he is too far gone for there to be a recovery.

[Eastdog]

Sadly I think he is too far gone for there to be a recovery.

From where he is now if he did recovery then that would be a good story but as you said Desipura it is more likely he has beyond it now.

[LostDoggy]

From where he is now if he did recovery then that would be a good story but as you said Desipura it is more likely he has beyond it now.

He probably has done very well on many many days. Unfortunately now, maybe fortunately, he can't make a mistake without being caught. The quantity seems more like enough for a big party with 'friends'(parasites) than a commercial exercise.
Wagons are easy to fall off.

[jeemak]

Yes if he is trafficking and ruining other people's lives.

This is a pretty grey area.

Some say that Ben Cousins has exercised personal choice and doesn't deserve compassion, pity, a second chance or whatever. The same people might then say that if he's been dealing then he's ruining the lives of the people he sells drugs to and should go to jail. Where does the personal choice for those people come in to play? It wouldn't be as if they have had the drugs slammed down their throats (BTW, not singling you out B4L).

I suppose I can see why people might think that because Cousins has made a documentary highlighting his battle with drugs that he is somewhat exposed moving forward from that to scrutiny, and in some ways I agree. However, surely there has to come a time where the health of an individual, as well as the impact on associated family members and friends is considered prior to a media outlet milking a sad and sorry story.

I agree that we get the media we deserve, and if anything it's a sad reflection on ourselves as a collective that we are so interested in seeing people at their worst and shamed like Cousins was this week.

I personally doubt going to prison is going to help a guy that likes to party and carry a few grams of meth around with him. In fact, jail is a place mostly full of arseholes where drugs are easily accessible at the type of price you probably wouldn't have to pay on the street.

I'm extremely surprised Vlad felt the need to comment on the potential benefits of sending Ben Cousins to jail. Thoughtless and possibly ignorant move in my opinion and he would have helped the situation a lot more by keeping his mouth shut.