Simon Dalrymple Performance Analysis

[bornadog]

yep, clayton stuffed that up right royally and so consistently too.

Power - can kick - can't play. (this is some kind of ongoing theme for us)
Walsh - Im not even sure - just couldn't actually play? I don't remember ever seeing him play….
Ray - This is a pass, it was a shocker of a draft.
Tom Williams - what might have been if the poor guy wasn't an injury basket case. Ill give a pass.
Everitt - high maintenance. One of claytons 'strange cats' from the stingrays.
Grant - see Everitt

A couple of average players and the rest duds - not one elite player from a first round pick in 6 years.

Yet conveniently left out is players like Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Harbrow, Higgins, Cross, McMahon, Minson, Wood, Jones, Roughead,

I know some of these guys are not first rounders or elite, but there are some good players there.

No matter what you think or supporters think of some of these guys, Ray has played almost 200 games, Everitt 100, and McMahon played over 100 games,

I can go through every single club and see how many elites have been picked out in the first round and I bet the record is not much better than ours. Don't forget after 2006, we finished higher up on the ladder and didn't get a chance to pick in the top 5.

Lets see how Simon goes. He has already picked guys like Howard, Fuller, Goodes, Lower, Pearce, Prudden and the rest still have to prove themselves. Yes the last two years he has done well, but hey we had picks 4,5,6.

[Greystache]

Yet conveniently left out is players like Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Harbrow, Higgins, Cross, McMahon, Minson, Wood, Jones, Roughead, Wallis, Libba, Dahl

I know some of these guys are not first rounders or elite, but there are some good players there.

No matter what you think or supporters think of some of these guys, Ray has played almost 200 games, Everitt 100, and McMahon played over 100 games,

I can go through every single club and see how many elites have been picked out in the first round and I bet the record is not much better than ours. Don't forget after 2006, we finished higher up on the ladder and didn't get a chance to pick in the top 5.

Lets see how Simon goes. He has already picked guys like Howard, Fuller, Goodes, Lower, Pearce, Prudden and the rest still have to prove themselves. Yes the last two years he has done well, but hey we had picks 4,5,6.

We had pick 4.5.6 previously- It netted us, Walsh, Grant, Williams. Not a quality player amongst them. Grant was pick 5 in 2007.

Goodes was a rookie and Lower was a delisted free agent.

[bornadog]

We had pick 4.5.6 previously- It netted us, Walsh, Grant, Williams. Not a quality player amongst them. Grant was pick 5 in 2007.

Goodes was a rookie and Lower was a delisted free agent.

Yes that is true.

Walsh - bad pick, Williams cruelled by injury, not Claytons issue and Grant jury out.

[soupman]

Yet conveniently left out is players like Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Harbrow, Higgins, Cross, McMahon, Minson, Wood, Jones, Roughead, Wallis, Libba, Dahl

Dalrymple picks.

[bornadog]

Dalrymple picks.

Yes you are right, I will amend.

[Ozza]

Yes that is true.

Walsh - bad pick, Williams cruelled by injury, not Claytons issue and Grant jury out.

I don't really think it's 'jury out' on Grant.
Its a failed pick. If he gets to 100 games, its not an unmitigated failure - but still a failure given the 8 year investment for next to nil return so far.

[chef]

Yet conveniently left out is players like Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Harbrow, Higgins, Cross, McMahon, Minson, Wood, Jones, Roughead,
.

Cooney and Griffen were no brainers.

Ward, Cross, Roughie and Harbrow were great picks.

Higgins, Minson and Wood are average picks. Not great, not bad just average.

Jones looks a miss.

That's just my take on it.

[w3design]

Yet conveniently left out is players like Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Harbrow, Higgins, Cross, McMahon, Minson, Wood, Jones, Roughead,

I know some of these guys are not first rounders or elite, but there are some good players there.

No matter what you think or supporters think of some of these guys, Ray has played almost 200 games, Everitt 100, and McMahon played over 100 games,

I can go through every single club and see how many elites have been picked out in the first round and I bet the record is not much better than ours. Don't forget after 2006, we finished higher up on the ladder and didn't get a chance to pick in the top 5.

Lets see how Simon goes. He has already picked guys like Howard, Fuller, Goodes, Lower, Pearce, Prudden and the rest still have to prove themselves. Yes the last two years he has done well, but hey we had picks 4,5,6.

Another handy player was a guy called Harris (Lake)

To be fair I think it was more KPP's missed by Clayton. It is more to do with his reputation than performance.

Since the Roughy Buddy draft Hawthorns has been ordinary with most better players traded in.

Geelong had a great father/son run.

At this stage Dalrymple bats at 50% Clayton at 40%. We will se how he goes this year

[Remi Moses]

Cooney and Griffen were no brainers.

Ward, Cross, Roughie and Harbrow were great picks.

Higgins, Minson and Wood are average picks. Not great, not bad just average.


Jones looks a miss.

That's just my take on it.

I agree, but it's the first round failures he had that are contributing to our current plight.
He's had a few very good late picks,but it's okay to claim a player has played x amount of games but it's the players picked after our pick that hurt.

[Remi Moses]

I don't really think it's 'jury out' on Grant.
Its a failed pick. If he gets to 100 games, its not an unmitigated failure - but still a failure given the 8 year investment for next to nil return so far.

Yep. The jury didn't even require an adjournment
Rioli, Henderson, Dangerfield Rance picked after him.
Ward was a great pick though.

[lemmon]

Cooney and Griffen were no brainers.

Ward, Cross, Roughie and Harbrow were great picks.

Higgins, Minson and Wood are average picks. Not great, not bad just average.

Jones looks a miss.

That's just my take on it.

I'd like to hear your reasoning on how an All Australian, 180 game ruckman is just an average pick whereas a potentially decent full back is classed as a great one?

[chef]

I'd like to hear your reasoning on how an All Australian, 180 game ruckman is just an average pick whereas a potentially decent full back is classed as a great one?

Minsons had one great season in how many?. He's a very good tap ruckman but offers not much else around the ground. Average(as in how I rate him) isn't bad, nor is it great.

At this stage Roughie looks a very good KPD(great on potential).

[The Doctor]

Minsons had one great season in how many?. He's a very good tap ruckman but offers not much else around the ground. Average(as in how I rate him) isn't bad, nor is it great.

Who exactly were you hoping for in a shallow draft? Gary Dempsey?

Will Minson was an outstanding pick in his draft. The return on investment has been surplus to expectations.

He didn't play any rep football, nor was he invited to the draft camp, and he only played schoolboy footy so the talent ID in this instance was brilliant. Maybe this is where Dalrymple got the idea to draft Howard.

[bulldogtragic]

Dalrymple under the pressure now it's no top 10 picks, let alone top 24. But 3 or 4 picks 26-40 need to be nailed, I hope he gets them right.

[GVGjr]

3 x 2nd round picks and maybe 2 x 3rd round picks will be a good test for him.