Shaun Higgins - Liam Jones - Easton Wood - Will they, or won't they?

[Bulldog Revolution]

I'm not convinced about that, I think it's more so we offered amount x due to his best and fairest finish etc, Easton and his management think with another season of improvement he'll have leverage to negotiate a better deal at the end of 2015.

Thats the way I see it

Id prefer for him to lock in and have a career best year, because if he doesn't have it soon then maybe it is better to just cut our losses

[jeemak]

Not happy. We do the hard yards and another club potentially reaps the benefits.

But it's OK for us to pick up players from other clubs when they're 23 years old and for whatever reason haven't gotten enough out of themselves?

He's been cooked with us for a long time. If he can get more out of himself at another club good on him. He's not worth piling more resources into from our end, he's clearly checked out.

[jeemak]

Bulldogtragic - WOOF POLICE

[bulldogtragic]

Bulldogtragic - WOOF POLICE

Don't know I've probably as much authority as 'officer nasty' from numerous movies.

[Remi Moses]

He's done with us so why the fretting?
He's had long enough to improve and become consistent for us, and yet he's gone backwards or at best stagnated.
As posters said previously good defenders get him .
If he gets a good run at a marking contest he looks great one on one, but you don't get that often at AFL level anymore.
Then there's the second third efforts which are a necessity that he doesn't bring on a consistent basis.

[Sedat]

He's done with us so why the fretting?

I don't think the article says anything definitive about him walking out on the club, only that he's "exploring trade options".

[wimberga]

If jones goes, we will have gotten rid of a player who doesn't want to be a bulldog.

That's a win.

[always right]

But it's OK for us to pick up players from other clubs when they're 23 years old and for whatever reason haven't gotten enough out of themselves?

He's been cooked with us for a long time. If he can get more out of himself at another club good on him. He's not worth piling more resources into from our end, he's clearly checked out.

How can someone who is 23 have been cooked for a long time?

[whythelongface]

I have always had a big wrap on Jones. Unfortunately he has yet to deliver consistently what he is capable of. Of course I would be disappointed to see him go as he could potentially find some consistency and become a good forward, however this may be another opportunity for a win-win for both parties. We may pick up a 2nd round pick for him which could be used to snare another decent kid or be used in a trade deal to secure another forward.

Anyway good luck to the kid if he decides to jump ship.

[josie]

If Jones is gone I really hope Redpath get's a decent run in the 1's. That last qtr tackle & ferocity he showed for whole game in VFL grand final (yes I know it's not AFL) really impressed me. Redpath playing may be a necessity if Crameri cannot play !!

I've felt Jones often lacks ferocity/intensity. Still hoping he stays, however if he does not want to stay I trust our club to negotiate well for good pick(s) and then pray we use them wisely.

[soupman]

If Jones is gone I really hope Redpath get's a decent run in the 1's. That last qtr tackle & ferocity he showed for whole game in VFL grand final (yes I know it's not AFL) really impressed me.

I've only seen him do that for one quarter ever though, so unless he can switch to "hunt" mode permanently then I don't think he is good enough. Aside from a lobvely kick he doesn't do anything at AFL standard.

[Remi Moses]

I don't think the article says anything definitive about him walking out on the club, only that he's "exploring trade options".

I take exploring options is I want out.

[bulldogtragic]

I take exploring options is I want out.

Or playing hard to get. Increase dollars or years...

[jeemak]

How can someone who is 23 have been cooked for a long time?

Jones hasn't put a season together where his effort has been acceptable since 2010. Every year since then I have been more and more critical of him as he's matured (though I have made my fair share of excuses for him over many years), unfortunately during that time the only consistency he has had is his tendency towards erratic output.

My comment about him being cooked is made with the benefit of hindsight. I'd say he hasn't done much more than what I've come to expect from him since the start of 2013(and for me, two years is a long time when it comes to player development). Two seasons of stagnation at best, and clear regression at worst is enough for me to say we've thrown enough resources towards developing Liam Jones and we should move on.

Once again, if he develops elsewhere then good for him. I think he and us and us and him have respectively given all we can to the partnership and it's time to move on.

[Remi Moses]

Or playing hard to get. Increase dollars or years...

Hopefully the club doesn't buckle if that's the case.