Karmichael Hunt charged with supplying cocaine

[Ghost Dog]

How is that possible? To have cocaine and no conviction recorded?

[bulldogtragic]

How is that possible? To have cocaine and no conviction recorded?

The vast, vast number of cases at court don't recieve a conviction. More so if you have access to good lawyers.

[Twodogs]

How is that possible? To have cocaine and no conviction recorded?

Good legal representation.

And he probably cooperated fully with the police.

[jeemak]

Dishing out criminal records to people for first offences in drug possession wouldn't achieve anything.

[F'scary]

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Well, let's hope he has learnt his lesson...and I don't mean that he changes his modus operandi and employs a flunkie to carry for him.

[LostDoggy]

Dishing out criminal records to people for first offences in drug possession wouldn't achieve anything.

Disagree, the knowledge that no conviction will be recorded for a first possession offence is a massive green light! Might not help him but certainly could help deter from risking their future getting involved in illicit substances.

The rationale of, "oh well I can get caught once, nothing will happen, then I'll stop" would not be uncommon, but as we all know by that stage it is all too late!

[chef]

Think it's crazy myself to get a conviction for a first offence.

[hujsh]

Disagree, the knowledge that no conviction will be recorded for a first possession offence is a massive green light! Might not help him but certainly could help deter from risking their future getting involved in illicit substances.

The rationale of, "oh well I can get caught once, nothing will happen, then I'll stop" would not be uncommon, but as we all know by that stage it is all too late!

Giving anyone unlucky enough to get caught with drugs a criminal record (and lets face it, enough people have used drugs that it would be a case of bad luck rather than an issue of moral character) will not help them. The impact it would have on the prospects of a young person could be devastating

[bulldogtragic]

Just thought I'd say being found guilty gives you a criminal record. A conviction is a kin to having the guilt stamped on one's forehead.

The aspect of 'conviction' forces the person to declare the offence the authorities or organisations, such as applying for certain jobs or trying to get passports or entry into foreign countries. So a 'conviction' on top of a finding of guilt in Hunts case may have prohibited him from travelling to many countries in his work. But if say an insurance company asks him as he been found guilty of a criminal offence in the last 5 years, he would need to answer yes.

Whether you agree or disagree, I just thought Id try to explain the difference.

[Greystache]

Just thought I'd say being found guilty gives you a criminal record. A conviction is a kin to having the guilt stamped on one's forehead.

The aspect of 'conviction' forces the person to declare the offence the authorities or organisations, such as applying for certain jobs or trying to get passports or entry into foreign countries. So a 'conviction' on top of a finding of guilt in Hunts case may have prohibited him from travelling to many countries in his work. But if say an insurance company asks him as he been found guilty of a criminal offence in the last 5 years, he would need to answer yes.

Whether you agree or disagree, I just thought Id try to explain the difference.

As the great philosopher Rocky Balboa once said when asked in a job interview if he had a criminal record- "nothing worth bragging about".

[LostDoggy]

Giving anyone unlucky enough to get caught with drugs a criminal record (and lets face it, enough people have used drugs that it would be a case of bad luck rather than an issue of moral character) will not help them. The impact it would have on the prospects of a young person could be devastating

I understand your point but it is this thought process that green lights people into trying out these things (I am no prude and have used the discussed substance myself in the past, not proud of it). And you know why, because I knew there were no real repercussions.

You say it is unlucky to get caught with drugs, I feel you are missing the point, I think looking back many addicts would say the were unlucky not to get caught as it may have saved them before they got in too deep. If the impacts of a conviction could be devastating isn't that deterrent right there?

As we have all heard with the ice epidemic, people can become addicted in 2 to 3 tries of the stuff, do we really want people to have the ability to try this stuff without any fear of conviction?

[Maddog37]

Legal or not, people will try it.

This topic to me is not suitable for this forum.

[F'scary]

I'm really worried that with all the financial hardship that has been dealt out to Harmichael over this incident, if he has any debts and he has trouble paying them off, it could get really ugly for him.

[F'scary]

Also, if some of the people that he has been associating with happen to have some trouble with the law, they might infer that he did some sort of deal and it could get pretty serious for him again.

[LostDoggy]

I'm really worried that with all the financial hardship that has been dealt out to Harmichael over this incident, if he has any debts and he has trouble paying them off, it could get really ugly for him.

He could always sell some cocaine to make ends meet.