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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutsPeanuts View Post
    Very harsh to be delisting an 18YO development ruckman after 1 year on the list.
    In theory it does sound harsh but I tend to think it's a realistic option.
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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    DR, so Stevens back to Perth? I find that odd.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    DR, so Stevens back to Perth? I find that odd.
    Rumoured he has been made an offer.
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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    In theory it does sound harsh but I tend to think it's a realistic option.
    As an interstater, I am out of the loop on the development players. I am a little surprised at the strength of opinion on Goetz, given he was clearly years away from it when drafted. Are there concerns/issues with his development or application?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutsPeanuts View Post
    As an interstater, I am out of the loop on the development players. I am a little surprised at the strength of opinion on Goetz, given he was clearly years away from it when drafted. Are there concerns/issues with his development or application?
    Application needs to be improved.
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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Application needs to be improved.
    Oh, I see.

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Application needs to be improved.
    To be fair he is coming from a long way back and coming into a professional environment would be a shock to the system.. Having been injured for the last 10-12 weeks wouldn't have helped either.

    The raw athletic talent is obviously there so if his attitude has improved I would like him to get a bit more time.

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Recently we have been good at re-signing the players we want to keep.

    However, a number remain un-signed.

    What's happening with Smith, Jong, Stevens, Campbell and the Rat?

    Pies allegedly after Jong.

    FWIW I've read rumours that the Bombers are chasing Campbell and Smith.

    And I've read rumours that WCE is keen and offering Stevens a contract a lot longer than us.

    If true, could we try to get a WCE tall defender (other than Brown)? They have enough of them.
    Are all your rumours from BF Dry Rot?

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Here is a list of our uncontracted players at the end of the season according to Footywire:


    Western Bulldogs Players Out of Contract in 2016
    Name Years Service Status
    Bradley Lynch 1 Non-Free Agent
    Clay Smith 5 Non-Free Agent
    Dale Morris 12 Unrestricted Free Agent
    Declan Hamilton 2 Non-Free Agent
    Joel Hamling 2 Non-Free Agent
    Joshua Prudden 4 Non-Free Agent
    Koby Stevens 4 Non-Free Agent
    Lin Jong 5 Non-Free Agent
    Luke Goetz 1 Non-Free Agent
    Matthew Boyd 14 Unrestricted Free Agent
    Nathan Hrovat 4 Non-Free Agent
    Roarke Smith 2 Non-Free Agent
    Robert Murphy 17 Unrestricted Free Agent
    Tom Campbell 5 Non-Free Agent
    Will Minson 13 Unrestricted Free Agent

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    I'd be really disappointed to lose Prudden entirely.

    For me, if we had to delist him - then he is a 'must rookie'.

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutsPeanuts View Post
    Very harsh to be delisting an 18YO development ruckman after 1 year on the list.
    Players have to deserve another year, not be given one just because they're already on the list.
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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    I'd be really disappointed to lose Prudden entirely.

    For me, if we had to delist him - then he is a 'must rookie'.
    Any reason why?

    Prudden hasn't shown much outside of a couple VFL games and maybe some small glimpses last year at AFL level. I don't necessarily mind if we give him a year on the rookie list, but I don't think it'd be harsh if he was cut entirely either.

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    Here is a list of our uncontracted players at the end of the season according to Footywire:


    Western Bulldogs Players Out of Contract in 2016
    Name Years Service Status
    Bradley Lynch 1 Non-Free Agent
    Clay Smith 5 Non-Free Agent
    Dale Morris 12 Unrestricted Free Agent
    Declan Hamilton 2 Non-Free Agent
    Joel Hamling 2 Non-Free Agent
    Joshua Prudden 4 Non-Free Agent
    Koby Stevens 4 Non-Free Agent
    Lin Jong 5 Non-Free Agent
    Luke Goetz 1 Non-Free Agent
    Matthew Boyd 14 Unrestricted Free Agent
    Nathan Hrovat 4 Non-Free Agent
    Roarke Smith 2 Non-Free Agent
    Robert Murphy 17 Unrestricted Free Agent
    Tom Campbell 5 Non-Free Agent
    Will Minson 13 Unrestricted Free Agent
    A lot of players on that list
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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    Any reason why?

    Prudden hasn't shown much outside of a couple VFL games and maybe some small glimpses last year at AFL level. I don't necessarily mind if we give him a year on the rookie list, but I don't think it'd be harsh if he was cut entirely either.
    I think that apart from a nervous first quarter in his first game (understandable) Prudden looked composed and comfortable at the level. In particular, in his third game v Collingwood - Beveridge acknowledged that they didn't really want to sub him out, because he was playing really well, but ended up subbing him for balance reasons. But up until then, in 56% game time, he'd picked up 17 possessions, and was reading the game really well and mopping up across half back, as well as being involved in some good passages of play for us.

    I just think it would be a real shame if someone with Prudden's aptitude for the game, was lost to AFL footy, and I'm still backing him to make it (somewhere).

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    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    A lot of players on that list
    Looks like it but break it down it's not that bad. Boyd, Murphy and Morris won't go elsewhere and will be with us if they go on again. Lynch, R. Smith and Goetz are all rookies with the options of being re-rookied.

    So it leaves you with this.

    Clay Smith 5 Non-Free Agent
    Declan Hamilton 2 Non-Free Agent
    Joel Hamling 2 Non-Free Agent
    Joshua Prudden 4 Non-Free Agent
    Koby Stevens 4 Non-Free Agent
    Lin Jong 5 Non-Free Agent
    Nathan Hrovat 4 Non-Free Agent
    Tom Campbell 5 Non-Free Agent
    Will Minson 13 Unrestricted Free Agent

    Out of that list I'd be wanting Campbell and Smith signed up ASAP so genuine concern there. Jong, Stevens I'd like to keep on but I'm not desperate to hold onto them. I'd love a healthy year from Hrovat but again not desperate. Sadly Minson will be leaving and the rest are probably delist material.

    I think we've done well locking in our players but right now I'd really love to see some news on Clay and Tommy signing on.

    Edit: Question? Jed Adcock? 2 year rookie?

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