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29-08-2016, 09:15 PM
#601
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
cinder
I hope we offer Boyd another contract, he's all Australian FFS
He is in the squad, not the team yet.
I think it is more than likely he will be not offered a contract.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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29-08-2016, 09:20 PM
#602
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
I'd be surprised if Boyd isn't offered a new contract
We need a bit more silk and less grunt .
Only Essendon could think they can get two uncontractred players in the PSD.
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29-08-2016, 09:46 PM
#603
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Surely Matty Boyd gets another contract. The fact he doesn't have a contract in front of him at the moment is a worry though.
They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
Brian Fantana.
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29-08-2016, 09:48 PM
#604
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
azabob
He is in the squad, not the team yet.
I think it is more than likely he will be not offered a contract.
Oh ...
If that's the case and we as fans didn't get to say goodbye, I'll be very disappointed. At least North let Harvey et al, and the fans, know before the last home game.
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29-08-2016, 10:02 PM
#605
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
I think Boyd will get another contract but we will be very busy this trade period so i think we are waiting to see what comes of that first before Boyd gets his well deserved extension.
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29-08-2016, 10:10 PM
#606
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
I know it's not ideal, but..... Say.... We get busy and we need Matty's spot. We offer him a rookie spot and he tells all clubs he will only play with us. We pick him up, he takes Wallis' spot on the senior list as an upgraded rookie for the entire season. We in a sense, move Wallis time injured to the rookie list owing that Boyd is obviously better than a rookie.
I know it's not ideal, I know GVGjr has said previously it affects his legacy, but if this scenario played out and we still have another full season of Matty Boyd as well as trades in we want, is this not a solution where we have our cake and eat it too? (If JMac really needs another spot on the list to do his magic. Also we can leave him on as a rookie for a second year if his form warrants it and he's light years ahead of Goodes & Adcock. 300 games is achievable.)
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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30-08-2016, 08:03 AM
#607
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I know it's not ideal, but..... Say.... We get busy and we need Matty's spot. We offer him a rookie spot and he tells all clubs he will only play with us. We pick him up, he takes Wallis' spot on the senior list as an upgraded rookie for the entire season. We in a sense, move Wallis time injured to the rookie list owing that Boyd is obviously better than a rookie.
I know it's not ideal, I know GVGjr has said previously it affects his legacy, but if this scenario played out and we still have another full season of Matty Boyd as well as trades in we want, is this not a solution where we have our cake and eat it too? (If JMac really needs another spot on the list to do his magic. Also we can leave him on as a rookie for a second year if his form warrants it and he's light years ahead of Goodes & Adcock. 300 games is achievable.)
I think this is a great idea, rather than affect his legacy, this is just using the system to his our advantage consideting our long term injuries.
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30-08-2016, 08:20 AM
#608
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I know it's not ideal, but..... Say.... We get busy and we need Matty's spot. We offer him a rookie spot and he tells all clubs he will only play with us. We pick him up, he takes Wallis' spot on the senior list as an upgraded rookie for the entire season. We in a sense, move Wallis time injured to the rookie list owing that Boyd is obviously better than a rookie.
I know it's not ideal, I know GVGjr has said previously it affects his legacy, but if this scenario played out and we still have another full season of Matty Boyd as well as trades in we want, is this not a solution where we have our cake and eat it too? (If JMac really needs another spot on the list to do his magic. Also we can leave him on as a rookie for a second year if his form warrants it and he's light years ahead of Goodes & Adcock. 300 games is achievable.)
Does that mean he gets the standard rookie contract and payment? If so, that'd be unacceptably disrespectful for mine.
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30-08-2016, 09:41 AM
#609
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
PeanutsPeanuts
Does that mean he gets the standard rookie contract and payment? If so, that'd be unacceptably disrespectful for mine.
Initially, upon his immediate elevation he gets an immediate pay rise. Beyond that I'm assuming we can pay him what we want within the cap.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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30-08-2016, 10:33 AM
#610
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Initially, upon his immediate elevation he gets an immediate pay rise. Beyond that I'm assuming we can pay him what we want within the cap.
If it keeps him on the list and in our best 22 while freeing up spot 6 I'm all for it and I'd wager he would be too.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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30-08-2016, 10:42 AM
#611
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
I was a little concerned about Boyd after the first month of football but he has been bloody outstanding since then. Love the way he has carried himself over the last few years, he speaks really well these days and you can just feel his love for the club. I'll be pissed if Hamilton is on the list next year and Boyd isn't.
On the super footy podcast this week they mentioned that the dogs are into a HBF from Richmond. Ellis? Deledio? Surely not Grigg. Any ideas? They also said there was another they are looking at closely but didn't name the club. I'm guessing this is the reason Boyd hasn't been signed yet.
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30-08-2016, 10:42 AM
#612
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Agree on Hamling.
Not sure what went wrong for three quarters of the season, but he's come good again late and at an important time. I think he's a very capable player who clearly has all the tools to be a very solid second tall defender.
I've watched him closely since he's been back and he's rarely been beaten, even when assigned to bigger opponents (which Roberts has struggled with).
I'd be filthy if we lost him to another club and I think losing Campbell would be ridiculous, too.
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30-08-2016, 10:46 AM
#613
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
kruder
On the super footy podcast this week they mentioned that the dogs are into a HBF from Richmond. Ellis? Deledio? Surely not Grigg. Any ideas? They also said there was another they are looking at closely but didn't name the club. I'm guessing this is the reason Boyd hasn't been signed yet.
My respect for Boyd has doubled since his move to half back. He's been sensational.
There appears to be some talk we're interested in Ellis, but perhaps that's misguided and it's actually Deledio? I'd be happy with either. We know Deledio's quality and versatility, he'd be a very astute pick up if his body checks out OK. I'm a fan of Ellis too, I know he gets quite a bit of stick from Richmond supporters and the wider AFL community but he's still young (23 years old) and has plenty to work with. He's quick, versatile and he has a penetrating kick. I'd like him to develop a harder edge to his game and find more consistency, but I see him as a player who could benefit from coming to a club such as ours.
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30-08-2016, 10:46 AM
#614
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
kruder
I was a little concerned about Boyd after the first month of football but he has been bloody outstanding since then. Love the way he has carried himself over the last few years, he speaks really well these days and you can just feel his love for the club. I'll be pissed if Hamilton is on the list next year and Boyd isn't.
On the super footy podcast this week they mentioned that the dogs are into a HBF from Richmond. Ellis? Deledio? Surely not Grigg. Any ideas? They also said there was another they are looking at closely but didn't name the club. I'm guessing this is the reason Boyd hasn't been signed yet.
I don't like Ellis at all he's ok at lots of things and not very good at anything in particular, he's the 22-25 player in our list and we're already open to trade out this bracket. I think Richmond would keep him given his age and hope for improvement.
It may be Deledio and I think the Tiges would be prepared to part ways given he is 29 and won't be playing in finals with them. He would be good for us, very good if fit.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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30-08-2016, 10:56 AM
#615
Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
My respect for Boyd has doubled since his move to half back. He's been sensational.
There appears to be some talk we're interested in Ellis, but perhaps that's misguided and it's actually Deledio? I'd be happy with either. We know Deledio's quality and versatility, he'd be a very astute pick up if his body checks out OK. I'm a fan of Ellis too, I know he gets quite a bit of stick from Richmond supporters and the wider AFL community but he's still young (23 years old) and has plenty to work with. He's quick, versatile and he has a penetrating kick. I'd like him to develop a harder edge to his game and find more consistency, but I see him as a player who could benefit from coming to a club such as ours.
If Deledio was fit he would be perfect for us agree. The question is would you be prepared to part with a first rounder? Ellis I was keen on at under 18's level and your analysis is spot on with him. I just wished the Club would utilise JJ's traits more. The kid is a jet and exactly the type of player we need more of at the club.