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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
I am going to have to switch off SEN today..they have not stopped talking about Tom And his bloody contract!
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Why is this being discussed after almost two years.(Boyd's salary) Media needs to let it go. The only pressure on Boyd is from Media jerks, not the club.
We don't need rubbish articles like this floating around.
By media jerks - I presume you mean the former player, and former specialist coach from the club?
In terms of it being discussed - it is quite clearly an area of interest, whether you like it or not. There is so much AFL media - and its just too obvious a topic, for it not to be talked about.
As Greystache said, the club does nothing to slow or smother the story. Gordon dances around the topic of his involvement, which keeps that angle smouldering along, and Boyd is yet to play a level footy that changes the conversation.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Brian Waldron this week - "Tom Boyd's massive contract is going to stop the Bulldogs from recruiting big money free agents"
Brian Waldron last week - "The Bulldogs have offered Hurley a 5-year deal and they're going to get him on big money"
I also love the idea that Brian Waldron is an authority on the financial machinations of sporting clubs.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Didn't Darc take a 15% pay cut when Campbell Rose first came to the Club? Might be wrong.
It'd be great to see Darcy tweet back "Yes, I took a 15% pay cut in 2002, at which time I was the reigning AFL MVP...
Or something to that effect...
(Not that I'm agreeing with Darcy's point, btw.)
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
We know nothing about Boyd's contract and he may well already have half of the total sum front ended and may only getting $500,000 a year from now on.
Weren't we struggling to fill the cap a year or so back.
Don't piss off old people
The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
The worry for me is that if we get bogged down in battling the media's pursuit of Boyd's Bust, they'll quickly spin our defence of him into us putting an individual ahead of the club etc. They have articles already written, waiting for names and dates to be inserted. I don't mind if we just refuse to participate, but it probably has its own consequences which I haven't considered deeply yet.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
Ozza
By media jerks - I presume you mean the former player, and former specialist coach from the club?
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He isn't one of the most loved Scraggers to have pulled on the jumper for whatever reason. Usually goes into bat for us which has won my affections to some extent but he is certainly a media jerk, card carrying member of the Boy's Club. It's like Peter Garret, go into politics expecting to change the system, but you get consumed by it.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
Webby
It'd be great to see Darcy tweet back "Yes, I took a 15% pay cut in 2002, at which time I was the reigning AFL MVP...
Or something to that effect...
(Not that I'm agreeing with Darcy's point, btw.)
I agree but it makes Thomas look foolish with his tweet.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
Ozza
By media jerks - I presume you mean the former player, and former specialist coach from the club? .
Yes included, along with Barrett, Ralph, and every other media person constantly bringing up Tom's salary.
Originally Posted by
Ozza
In terms of it being discussed - it is quite clearly an area of interest, whether you like it or not. There is so much AFL media - and its just too obvious a topic, for it not to be talked about.
Of interest to those who want to either put the club down, or they don't have a creative thought in their brain and want to keep discussing this after almost two years after signing Tom. Create a new story, stop rehashing the same old thing.
Originally Posted by
Ozza
As Greystache said, the club does nothing to slow or smother the story. Gordon dances around the topic of his involvement, which keeps that angle smouldering along, and Boyd is yet to play a level footy that changes the conversation.
So what if Gordon was involved in any way. He didn't do it on his own, he has to have permission from the board. PG is not stupid to be a lone wolf.
Also, PG came out on Monday and said if the club had their time again, they would do the same.
I was so proud of the club when they signed up a young talented, number one draft pick standing at 200cm who showed he was the best big man junior for his year. we showed the footy world (for once), we want a premiership and sustained success.
His salary is a financial negotiation between the club and player and no one else's business.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Didn't Darc take a 15% pay cut when Campbell Rose first came to the Club? Might be wrong.
Yeah I believe that is right -he and all of the fab 5
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Didn't Darc take a 15% pay cut when Campbell Rose first came to the Club? Might be wrong.
That was when the club was in dire straits financially, and there wasn't a requirement to pay a certain percentage of the salary cap.
It wasn't because he was out of form.
The idea that he should take a pay cut to reduce the media pressure on him is laughable, for three reasons:
1) Despite the constant speculation, I'm guessing no one in the media knows what he's going to be on from year to year.
2) If he does take a pay cut, it will only add more fuel to fire when discussions of the original trade are had.
3) He has four years left of the contract in which to demonstrate that it was money well spent.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Unfortunately Tom's contract is always going to be a talking point. Especially when he is struggling and we are losing. To suggest otherwise demonstrates lack of awareness of how big AFL media has become.
I agree that the club hasn't done Tom any favours with the handling of the Zaine incident and responding to criticism.
If it were Carlton who picked him up on this amount of money, I almost guarantee 95% of us here would be sinking the boots in every time he played a mediocre game.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Carlton did it but wasted it on two players over three years , jones and Tutt how come the media don't mention their efforts ?
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Interesting to read that Travis Cloke is earning 800,000 to 900,000 this year .
If you're going to argue not getting value for contract , you could put forward many many players.
Scully, and his dad , and even Callan Ward wasn't worth the 700,000 initially.
I've got confidence in The list management strategy, and so far they've done extremely well.
Agree they PR job was messy with Zaine and Tom, and should have been handled better.
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Re: Cameron Mooney and Luke Darcy say maligned Western Bulldog Tom Boyd should take a pay cut to ease pressure
Originally Posted by
westdog54
That was when the club was in dire straits financially, and there wasn't a requirement to pay a certain percentage of the salary cap.
It wasn't because he was out of form.
The idea that he should take a pay cut to reduce the media pressure on him is laughable, for three reasons:
1) Despite the constant speculation, I'm guessing no one in the media knows what he's going to be on from year to year.
2) If he does take a pay cut, it will only add more fuel to fire when discussions of the original trade are had.
3) He has four years left of the contract in which to demonstrate that it was money well spent.
We are not talking about anybody being out of form or not. We are talking about what Thomas tweeted:
I'm finding this self serving righteousness by former players advising Tom Boyd to take a pay cut offensive. Did they take a cut?
The answer is yes. Darcy did take a cut in the past. Thomas should have checked his facts