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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    I heard an interview with Dicko during the year, where he was saying that this year he wasn't able to practice his goal kicking as much, because he had more issues with managing his body (niggles) than the previous season, and as a result his kicking hadn't been quite as good.

    Still a tremendous level of accuracy, but does give some insight as to the trickle down affect on aspects of a players game, when they have some niggles that impact preparation.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    That goal against Heath Shaw in the prelim, his first I believe, was amazing. Libba let Shaw know about it, Shaw spat the dummy, jumper punches everywhere, brilliant. He's in my best 22 by a fair way.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giansiraccuser View Post
    That goal against Heath Shaw in the prelim, his first I believe, was amazing. Libba let Shaw know about it, Shaw spat the dummy, jumper punches everywhere, brilliant. He's in my best 22 by a fair way.
    Not by a fair way for me.

    That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Horror year for goal kicking for Dicko!! His 40.17 didn't stack up at all to his 50.12 the previous season!
    Yep, need Clay "8 goals 1 in finals" Smith to help him out
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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Yep, need Clay "8 goals 1 in finals" Smith to help him out
    And the behind was his easiest shot. 15m out on a slight angle. Hopefully our straight kicking at the end of the season hangs about next year.
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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    Not by a fair way for me.

    That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
    16.11 in his career suggests otherwise.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    Not by a fair way for me.

    That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.

    I'd have Dickson a fair way in front of Toby myself. With Crammers back and Cloke to slot in I can see a big year coming up for Tory.
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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    Not by a fair way for me.

    That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
    Geez as good as McLean was in the finals this is a bit rough on Dickson. He's kicked 90 goals in the past two years, has shown an ability to push up the ground and has stepped up countless times when we have needed someone to convert a goal. He also has an excellent ability to stay in the game without the ball with his pressure. I'd suggest he would just about be our first forward picked, even ahead of Stringer.
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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    I have Dicko in my best 22. I'm saying McLean is snapping at his heels. What I said is that I wouldn't be upset if McLean is selected before him. I'm not saying he should be...

    Re. McLean's goal kicking proficiency you need to take into account that many of his opportunities are in general play and that he usually nails his set shots, or at least has at the back end of this season. McLean is less a lead, mark, kick goal than Tory is (even though Tory also hits the scoreboard opportunistically).
    Last edited by 1eyedog; 25-10-2016 at 02:14 PM.
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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    I think Toby's scope for improvement is obviously much higher. Especially now coming into his third year, we should see him fill out a bit more and improve on his fitness again, that will make a huge difference to maximizing his ability.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Dickson has 90 goals in the last 2 seasons, include 15 goals in 5 finals.

    Our side is good, really good but he makes any side's 22.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    Not by a fair way for me.

    That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
    He's a long way off replicating Dickon's output at this point.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    He's a long way off replicating Dickon's output at this point.
    At this point agreed.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    There's not a single premiership winning 22 that Dickson wouldn't have gotten a game in based on his form from these past two years.

    Remember how we were all dismayed at how high our forwards were playing and how poor our ability to work forward cohesively was when we had cattle out of the side each week and were barely cobbling a side together? That sort of thing has a very big impact on specialist forward pocket and flankers, but Dickson still managed to get his hands on the footy and be involved. Sure it impacted his scoring, but given a different structure there's not reason his numbers from last year wouldn't have been replicated.

    I really like Toby, and as for the comparison with he and Dickson he's more inclined to get his hands on the footy. But, hitting the scoreboard at half the rate is a big gap to bridge.
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    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    There's not a single premiership winning 22 that Dickson wouldn't have gotten a game in based on his form from these past two years.

    Remember how we were all dismayed at how high our forwards were playing and how poor our ability to work forward cohesively was when we had cattle out of the side each week and were barely cobbling a side together? That sort of thing has a very big impact on specialist forward pocket and flankers, but Dickson still managed to get his hands on the footy and be involved. Sure it impacted his scoring, but given a different structure there's not reason his numbers from last year wouldn't have been replicated.

    I really like Toby, and as for the comparison with he and Dickson he's more inclined to get his hands on the footy. But, hitting the scoreboard at half the rate is a big gap to bridge.
    I have no idea what the last paragraph means.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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