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31-10-2017, 10:41 PM
#751
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
GWS took De Boer & Mzungu late last year. Having 82 as a live pick gives us options on draft night. Several types of options as you say. With Dal's recent work in particular, giving him another live pick is a good thing. We will have Smith at the club next year if we simply rookie draft him. So this is not all too bad.
Have you seen the list of DFA available right now? This list is pretty thin even before the DFA signings can take place.
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31-10-2017, 10:42 PM
#752
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Given his injuries this is a fair outcome
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31-10-2017, 10:45 PM
#753
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Given his injuries this is a fair outcome
Perfect outcome. Dal gets 82. Roarke stays. So we all get what we want.
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31-10-2017, 10:50 PM
#754
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Yes definitely a better outcome for the club
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31-10-2017, 11:52 PM
#755
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Much more sensible outcome than upgrading him.
In harsh reality it’s debatable whether we should re rookie him, but happy to do so if the club likes him. Leap and pace looks good but he will need more than that if he’s to make it.
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01-11-2017, 12:17 AM
#756
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I think he has shown enough positives when on-field, as evidenced by the fact that he was given a debut, and if not for his knee injuries we likely would have seen further improvement.
I'm glad he's not on the senior list, but also very glad that we've retained him for another year. I think he would be well aware of where is at, and what is expected of him in 2018. If he is not playing regular senior football (he will be eligible even though he is a rookie) or at least shown significant improvement then I think our decision at the end of next year is simple, regardless of injuries.
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01-11-2017, 12:37 AM
#757
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
I think he has shown enough positives when on-field, as evidenced by the fact that he was given a debut, and if not for his knee injuries we likely would have seen further improvement.
I'm glad he's not on the senior list, but also very glad that we've retained him for another year. I think he would be well aware of where is at, and what is expected of him in 2018. If he is not playing regular senior football (he will be eligible even though he is a rookie) or at least shown significant improvement then I think our decision at the end of next year is simple, regardless of injuries.
If he gets to us. How would the detractors towards the decision to delist and hopefully retain him if he falls a fair way to a late-ish rookie selection react? Is the club vindicated, or do we worry about them taking a risk?
I'd be surprised if we didn't know if other parties were interested in his services.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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01-11-2017, 12:40 AM
#758
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
jeemak
If he gets to us. How would the detractors towards the decision to delist and hopefully retain him if he falls a fair way to a late-ish rookie selection? Is the club vindicated, or do we worry about them taking a risk?
I'd be surprised if we didn't know if other parties were interested in his services.
The quote from McCartney that we've had positive discussions with Roarke and his management (paraphrased) suggests that we're fairly confident he'll still be there for us.
If another team wants to jump in and take him, meaning we have another rookie pick for a new player, I won't be overly upset. I'd prefer that than having him on the main list.
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01-11-2017, 02:08 AM
#759
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I have to assume this decision has been made well after the trade period given how late we were willing to have our 3rd pick come in (82). That being said, by the time draft night comes around, I suspect pick 82 will be closer to pick 55-60 in terms of live picks.
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01-11-2017, 02:20 AM
#760
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
PeanutsPeanuts
I so hope the player we are looking at with 82 is Liam Ryan.
Do you think he will last till pick 82? Gosh I hope so (but doubt it).
I just watched his highlight reel/looked up his stats and he looks bloody impressive. Seems he had a disappointing grand final (well blanketed by Nyhuis) but 73 goals, sitting on blokes heads, and positive reports from the combine surely has a few clubs looking at him.
Writeup and video for those that are interested:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-1...tes-wa-combine
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01-11-2017, 02:38 AM
#761
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
The quote from McCartney that we've had positive discussions with Roarke and his management (paraphrased) suggests that we're fairly confident he'll still be there for us.
If another team wants to jump in and take him, meaning we have another rookie pick for a new player, I won't be overly upset. I'd prefer that than having him on the main list.
Agreed. I just always find it funny, given how long the AFEL drags out this period for media coverage, how we pull our collective skirts over our heads when things look to be going one way over another, with plenty of time left at this time of year.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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01-11-2017, 02:44 AM
#762
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
The Adelaide Connection
Do you think he will last till pick 82? Gosh I hope so (but doubt it).
I just watched his highlight reel/looked up his stats and he looks bloody impressive. Seems he had a disappointing grand final (well blanketed by Nyhuis) but 73 goals, sitting on blokes heads, and positive reports from the combine surely has a few clubs looking at him.
Writeup and video for those that are interested:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-1...tes-wa-combine
Nope, he's not there at our last pick. If his highlights are in any way indicative of talent versus getting to the right positions he's a second round pick at the latest.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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01-11-2017, 03:40 PM
#763
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
The Adelaide Connection
Do you think he will last till pick 82? Gosh I hope so (but doubt it).
I just watched his highlight reel/looked up his stats and he looks bloody impressive. Seems he had a disappointing grand final (well blanketed by Nyhuis) but 73 goals, sitting on blokes heads, and positive reports from the combine surely has a few clubs looking at him.
Writeup and video for those that are interested:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-1...tes-wa-combine
He was in the draft lst year and a few pundits thought he'd go but clubs were concerned about his commitment/professionalism. Despite doing so well this year, can't see anyone going too early on him. Gee his skillset would be nice for us.
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01-11-2017, 03:54 PM
#764
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
PeanutsPeanuts
He was in the draft lst year and a few pundits thought he'd go but clubs were concerned about his commitment/professionalism. Despite doing so well this year, can't see anyone going too early on him. Gee his skillset would be nice for us.
He is spoken about in the draft thread
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01-11-2017, 07:19 PM
#765
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I just don't think we have the right people and support networks around our club to support the young indigenous kids.