Best 25 players of the past 50 years

[Twodogs]

[QUOTE=Webby;544901]When you think that there have been between 12 & 18 teams in the VFL/AFL at all times over the past 50 years and 14+ for the majority of it, the law of averages says that we'd be lucky to have more than one to two players on the list. Grant and Doug are stiff, but it's not outrageous that they'd miss out. KT and definitely Quinlan have a strong case.

Melbourne fans (with absolutely every right) would be complaining about Robbie Flower missing
Richmond would have fans howling about Francis Bourke missing.
Hawthorn fans would be howling about Hodge, Tuck and even Platten missing.
Norf fans about Greig and Dench... And probably even Boomer..
Crows fans about McLeod & Ricciuto.
Dockers fans about Pavlich
Fitzroy fans about Bernie Quinlan and perhaps Garry Wilson
Brisbane fans about Simon Black
Eagles fans about Peter Matera
Aints fans about Riewoldt and Harvey
Blues fans about Kouta and probably Sticks
Bombers fans about just about everything
Pies fans about Millane, Daicos, Thompson, Swan and Buckley
Swans fans about Goodes and Kelly
Port fans about Wanganeen (along with support from the Bombers fans complaining about everything..)
Geelong fans about Scarlett and probably Dangerfield.


Point is, with just 25 spots, there's a lot to squeeze in. It'd probably be more fun to do our own![/QUOT


As a matter of interest I consider Kernahan to be the most overrated player I've ever seen. Massive downhill skier who went to pieces when faced with the slightest pressure. Remember that goal he missed from the goal square to win the game after the siren?

[The Doctor]

Players I would choose ahead of Buckley off the top of my head

John Platten
Tim Watson
Robbie Flower
Keith Greig
Gary Dempsey
Ross Glendenning
Gary Ayres
Andrew Mcleod
John Nicholls
David Dench
Luke Hodge
Chris Grant
Wayne Johnston
Wayne Schimmelbusch
Bernie Quinlan
Kelvin Templeton
Darren Jarman
Jason Akermanis
Ben Cousins

[Twodogs]

Players I would choose ahead of Buckley off the top of my head

John Platten
Tim Watson
Robbie Flower
Keith Greig
Gary Dempsey
Ross Glendenning
Gary Ayres
Andrew Mcleod
John Nicholls
David Dench
Luke Hodge
Chris Grant
Wayne Johnston
Wayne Schimmelbusch
Bernie Quinlan
Kelvin Templeton
Darren Jarman
Jason Akermanis
Ben Cousins

Simon Black
Brad Johnson
Scott West
Jonathan Brown
Nigel Lappin
Darryl White

[Ozza]

As a matter of interest I consider Kernahan to be the most overrated player I've ever seen. Massive downhill skier who went to pieces when faced with the slightest pressure. Remember that goal he missed from the goal square to win the game after the siren?

Can't really agree on this one. He may have missed one after the siren in a home and away game - but Stick's finals and grand finals records is very very good.

[Twodogs]

Can't really agree on this one. He may have missed one after the siren in a home and away game - but Stick's finals and grand finals records is very very good.

You're probably right. I just never liked the bloke for some reason.

[Ozza]

You're probably right. I just never liked the bloke for some reason.

He played for Carlton in the 80s and 90s....I'd say that was plenty enough reason.

[Greystache]

Can't really agree on this one. He may have missed one after the siren in a home and away game - but Stick's finals and grand finals records is very very good.

He kicked 7 in the losing 1993 Grand Final from memory, and 5 in 1995.

[The Doctor]

Brereton is another i'd pick ahead of Buckley

[Twodogs]

Brereton is another i'd pick ahead of Buckley

Dermie was a gun.

[GVGjr]

Do players that have won premierships get rated higher than those who didn't?

[Ozza]

Yes I think so. I don't necessarily think a player should be rated higher due to being part of a team achievement. Although I do think players who have been exceptional in grand finals (like Dermie) deserve some extra adulation.

[Go_Dogs]

Yes I think so. I don't necessarily think a player should be rated higher due to being part of a team achievement. Although I do think players who have been exceptional in grand finals (like Dermie) deserve some extra adulation.

This is it - playing in a strong side allows a player the opportunity to impress on the biggest stages, which is often fairly enough given more weight. Thankfully our players are building/have built that reputation now.

I'm not old enough to contribute to this list, but Grant would be the one that's missing for me.

[1eyedog]

Brereton is another i'd pick ahead of Buckley

Absolutely.

[jeemak]

Do players that have won premierships get rated higher than those who didn't?

Absolutely.

Except ours from last year, it seems.

[LostDoggy]

And yet the man whose name adorns the medal for the best player over the finals series each year- Gary Ayres-can't crack the 25.