Three things I've learned. Round 4 vs North

[BornInDroopSt'54]

1. Jack Ziebell is a workplace hazard and Worksafe needs to get involved. He's a stupid, stupid footballer who has no regard, and is much a danger to himself as he is to others.

2. Libba can't and shouldn't play full time forward. The sooner Dickson gets back and we can stop this subtraction by substitution of small forwards the better.

3. There is no one that you would rather have the ball in their hands with the game on the line than Lindsay Thomas (provided you support the other team).

Ziebell hit Cloke like a wrecking ball, AFTER he kicked the ball. Ziebell has a habit of doing this and he would have a very good idea if his hit is going to make contact before or after yet he does it regardless and the judiciary and commentators are supporting him in what was an attack on an open, vulnerable player, who sustained a serious and extremely painful injury. This is an OH&S issue that the players association and our club need to act on. Late hits are illegal. Players know how to time a kick, they can time a hit.

[Twodogs]

So if that is the standard then the next time we play North we can take their guys out with impunity when they are perfectly set up for it (ie from behind just when they are least expecting it.) Just as long as we don't make contact to the head we can can break as many ribs as we like (or is six the maximum? I'd say so, after all wanting to break more than six is just silly) or put an opponent in the queue for a kidney donation.

OK. So we won't hit them in the head then.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Ziebell hit Cloke like a wrecking ball, AFTER he kicked the ball. Ziebell has a habit of doing this and he would have a very good idea if his hit is going to make contact before or after yet he does it regardless and the judiciary and commentators are supporting him in what was an attack on an open, vulnerable player, who sustained a serious and extremely painful injury. This is an OH&S issue that the players association and our club need to act on. Late hits are illegal. Players know how to time a kick, they can time a hit.

I agree. He should be rubbed out for it. The hit was late. And those commentators saying it didn't make contact to the head are missing the point. Head high contact is not the only thing that can rub out a player. A player in the middle of their kicking motion is very very vulnerable as they have no way to protect/brace themselves. It's only a matter of time before this tactic causes more injuries. It's a shame the AFL didn't use this opportunity to put an end to this rubbish.

Also on this note, how it wasn't a down-field free kick is beyond me. Lucky enough we got a goal anyway but there were some very interesting umpiring decisions. I can't count with fingers how many holding the ball non-calls went against us.

[1eyedog]

To be fair Cloke does not seem to have a collision radar at all. Cleaned up by Jones two weeks previous. He really needs to be more aware of those around him. He's been very Koschitzke-esque.

[Mantis]

To be fair Cloke does not seem to have a collision radar at all. Cleaned up by Jones two weeks previous. He really needs to be more aware of those around him. He's been very Koschitzke-esque.

Are you being serious?

[Sedat]

To be fair Cloke does not seem to have a collision radar at all. Cleaned up by Jones two weeks previous. He really needs to be more aware of those around him. He's been very Koschitzke-esque.

Can't agree with that. The Zak Jones hit was in a marking contest and the Ziebell hit was as he disposed of the ball by foot. Tom Ruggles yesterday was a far more accurate comparison of a Kosi stlye lack of awareness hit.

[comrade]

Ziebell could have tried to smother the ball and may have succeeded in stopping the kick getting to Libba. I'm glad he went the thug route and ultimately helped us win the game.

[craigsahibee]

Should have been a down field free . ( actually surprised it wasn't )
He won't get suspended, but it wasn't a tough act , in fact was a cheapie .

Do you honestly expect anything else from that club?

[always right]

To be fair Cloke does not seem to have a collision radar at all. Cleaned up by Jones two weeks previous. He really needs to be more aware of those around him. He's been very Koschitzke-esque.

Words fail me.

[1eyedog]

Are you being serious?

Moderately.

[1eyedog]

Words fail me.

There's always a first.

[1eyedog]

Can't agree with that. The Zak Jones hit was in a marking contest and the Ziebell hit was as he disposed of the ball by foot. Tom Ruggles yesterday was a far more accurate comparison of a Kosi stlye lack of awareness hit.

Fair call. Unlucky then on two occasions in 3 weeks. Why didn't he brace himself for impact?

[chef]

Fair call. Unlucky then on two occasions in 3 weeks. Why didn't he brace himself for impact?

Because he was kicking a football. Hard to brace in the middle of a kicking motion.

[Remi Moses]

Do you honestly expect anything else from that club?

Just look in the coaches box I guess .

[always right]

Fair call. Unlucky then on two occasions in 3 weeks. Why didn't he brace himself for impact?

How would he do that whilst in the kicking motion?