Three things I've learned-round 5 v Brisbane

[Twodogs]

2/ Matt Suckling thinks he has all the time in the world when he is in possession.

At one stage he picked the ball up and just stood there. I had time to say "kick it, kick it. Oh for gods sake kick the bloody thing" before he was run down.

He Just stood there like a tourist looking at gawping at a tourist attraction.

[Avoid the rush]

1. Love the way Jong gets the footy. Cannot kick or handball. (Jong 20 possessions or Caleb 20 possessions?)I feel Lin is not in our best side.

2. Cordy gets better every week and has just enough mongrel.

3. Williams must come in this week. Boyd is getting slower and Biggs is terrible atm.

[Topdog]

If you kick 5 goals 13 behinds under the roof teams will punish you.

[Topdog]

I think if you watch Boyd closely you can see a big difference in his marking ability and potentially technique when he is in the backline/wing vs when he is in the forward line. As a forward he pretty much takes 2 touches all the time, around the ground he is pretty strong at it and generally clunks them.

I honestly think it is just a matter of confidence for him. I'm still super excited to have him as a forward and think he will start dominating in about 15-20 games.

[Mofra]

1. Loved Zaine Cordy's game. Attacks every contest hard and his field kicking, looks ugly but it's effective.

2. Macrae is a workhorse - has he ever played a bad game? He was in everything but not easily noticeable.

3. Murphy at this stage of his career is better forward than back, which suits us with 87 HBFers on our list

[Mofra]

I think if you watch Boyd closely you can see a big difference in his marking ability and potentially technique when he is in the backline/wing vs when he is in the forward line. As a forward he pretty much takes 2 touches all the time, around the ground he is pretty strong at it and generally clunks them.

I honestly think it is just a matter of confidence for him. I'm still super excited to have him as a forward and think he will start dominating in about 15-20 games.

There was a contest late in the game where he had the sit, just need to make a little body contact on Andrews and he could have taken an easy mark. He didn't and went the soft option, I was livid. Boyd was poor on the weekend.

[Topdog]

There was a contest late in the game where he had the sit, just need to make a little body contact on Andrews and he could have taken an easy mark. He didn't and went the soft option, I was livid. Boyd was poor on the weekend.

Didnt get to see any of the game, havent even seen 1 second of play so mine was a very general comment

[S Coast Simon]

I'll update this as I go:

Tom Boyd (pick 1) (traded young): 43 games, 40 goals, 23 behinds
Josh Kennedy (pick 4) (traded young): At 43 games, 46 goals, 26 behinds
Tom Hawkins (would've been top 10): At 43 games, 59 goals, 32 behinds with a gun midfield and a heap of forward support
Nick Riewoldt (pick 1): At 43 games, 44 goals, 30 behinds
Jack Riewoldt (pick 11): At 43 games, 53 goals, 31 behinds
Jon Patton (pick 1): At 43 games, 48 goals, 32 behinds
Matthew Pavlich (pick 4): At 43 games (as a forward), 44 goals, 26 behinds
Jono Brown (would've been a top 10): At 43 games, 43 goals, 26 behinds
Travis Cloke (would've been a top 10): At 43 games, 34 goals, 40 behinds

Jarrad Waite: At 43 games, 37 goals, 37 behinds


So far Tom Boyd isn't all that bad as a KPF. In fact, one could argue he deserves to be mentioned in this group elite KPF players based on comparative output. I'm not sure those numbers convince me that Boyd can't continue to develop and improve as a key forward, probably the opposite.

This is a fair comparison considering he has spend half his time in the ruck. Not many on that list spend much time if any in the ruck. This said one could say his out put is way better than the rest as they had twice as much time to get these numbers

[S Coast Simon]

On a side note Toms hands are to flat when he goes for a mark. Needs to turn them in 20 degrees and he will hold a lot more. How many coaches do you need to teach this

[bulldogtragic]

This is a fair comparison considering he has spend half his time in the ruck. Not many on that list spend much time if any in the ruck. This said one could say his out put is way better than the rest as they had twice as much time to get these numbers

This one could also point out the gushing by Lingy in the GF commentary about Boyd being like Hawkin's 'coming out party'. One could also point out Boyd did it in half as many games, 2 years younger, time in the ruck and not the absolute cream midfield Geelong had for that GF.

The same one could also say if he's output to date isn't good enough for continued development as a KPF, then we may never ever see a KPF if we have to give up on him as a KPF. He's always going to be an ok ruck because he's over 200cm and 100kg. Boyd said of his speccy against Sydney that he used to do them as a junior, but the rucking makes his legs heavy. Based on the comparisons, we should be wanting to keep developing and improving him as a KPF, this 21yo big KPF with only 43 games experience.

[Happy Days]

Actually Tom and Liam's marking techniques aren't dissimilar

With one subtle difference; whilst at times Tom sticks his hands out and hopes the ball falls into them, Liam attempts to execute the same technique using only his chest and forehead.

[LostDoggy]

1-My nerves when Fletcher Roberts has the ball are slowly dissapating.
2-Suckling seems to have no peripheral vision.
3-We never ever look out of a game no matter what the margin is.We just keep coming and coming.

[bornadog]

3-We never ever look out of a game no matter what the margin is.We just keep coming and coming.

In 2017 Dogs...
- Trailed Sydney by 23 -WON
- Trailed NM by 29 -WON
- Trailed Brisbane by 38 -WON

[Twodogs]

In 2017 Dogs...
- Trailed Sydney by 23 -WON
- Trailed NM by 29 -WON
- Trailed Brisbane by 38 -WON

That reminds me of how Hawthorn started last year.

[Mantis]

That reminds me of how Hawthorn started last year.

How did it finish up for them?

I think we are all a little intrigued by where we sit in the food chain... I guess we will find out in due course.