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    Our Accuracy At Goal

    This is an issue particular over the last 3 weeks for us 12.17, 17.20 were games we won but still the kicking in the first half of the Lions game last week was an issue despite the win and last night against the Greater Waste of Space kicking 9.19 which cost us the game.

    What advice would you give to our goal kicking coaches at the club to rectify this issue and can our players improve their goal kicking. Obviously would be interested to know how many are rushed behinds as they wouldn't count and the actual points scored by our team.
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    You've got to be the ball Danny. Na na na na na.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    You've got to be the ball Danny. Na na na na na.
    Brilliant

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    Composure. We a rushing the shot in general play when we have more time to settle. I'd say mainly due to opposition pressure but still we have to execute under that pressure. Set shots, well I give up. It's all in their head I reckon because when I watch them in the warm up they are pretty good. Fatigue would be a big factor too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastdog View Post
    This is an issue particular over the last 3 weeks for us 12.17, 17.20 were games we won but still the kicking in the first half of the Lions game last week was an issue despite the win and last night against the Greater Waste of Space kicking 9.19 which cost us the game.

    What advice would you give to our goal kicking coaches at the club to rectify this issue and can our players improve their goal kicking. Obviously would be interested to know how many are rushed behinds as they wouldn't count and the actual points scored by our team.

    38.56 is a criminal waste. For gods sake. I genuinely don't know how it can be so hard to get professional footballers to a stage where they can kick straight at goal?

    Seriously what's the point of all the rest, the strategy and tactics and training and preperation and hard work on the field? What's it all for if we can't get the bloody ball through the goals more often than we miss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    38.56 is a criminal waste. For gods sake. I genuinely don't know how it can be so hard to get professional footballers to a stage where they can kick straight at goal?

    Seriously what's the point of all the rest, the strategy and tactics and training and preperation and hard work on the field? What's it all for if we can't get the bloody ball through the goals more often than we miss?
    Agree. Their is a lot of emphasis on fitness which is very important today but we just cannot afford things like clean ball use, general skill level and goal kicking to lapse. There needs to be a good balance of both.
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    Our boys seem to kick of a couple of steps. If ever there was a good example of getting a good straight run up to kick through the ball we need to watch Brown from the Roos. Sure his run up seem ridiculous but the guy kicks way more than he misses. Need momentum to kick straight. If I see Dunkley kick off three steps again I will spew up

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Coast Simon View Post
    Our boys seem to kick of a couple of steps. If ever there was a good example of getting a good straight run up to kick through the ball we need to watch Brown from the Roos. Sure his run up seem ridiculous but the guy kicks way more than he misses. Need momentum to kick straight. If I see Dunkley kick off three steps again I will spew up
    If I see him hunched over the so that he kicks little helicopters (they aren't even helicopters-more alle-oops in basketball, they go about as far) I'll scream. Dunk does seem to kick more than he misses though. It's hard to imagine what was going through his mind there but.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Coast Simon View Post
    Our boys seem to kick of a couple of steps. If ever there was a good example of getting a good straight run up to kick through the ball we need to watch Brown from the Roos. Sure his run up seem ridiculous but the guy kicks way more than he misses. Need momentum to kick straight. If I see Dunkley kick off three steps again I will spew up
    Lin Jong is another guilty of this - he missed 2 from directly in front against Brisbane, the 2nd from 15m out when he kicked off 2 steps. How are you supposed to develop momentum through the kick off 2 steps Lin? We need Simon Beasley down at the club to assist these recidivists develop a reliable technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Lin Jong is another guilty of this - he missed 2 from directly in front against Brisbane, the 2nd from 15m out when he kicked off 2 steps. How are you supposed to develop momentum through the kick off 2 steps Lin? We need Simon Beasley down at the club to assist these recidivists develop a reliable technique.
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    stage fright?

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    It is one issue that has carried over from the BMAC era through to 2017 and has rarely seen any improvements. Perhaps in the early stages of last year's GF & late in the PF.

    we have a goto phrase where I sit whenever we miss easy shots early, or rush a shot in play that goes OOF or for a behind."That's what costs you preliminary finals." They stink of Mark West, Gia and Gilbee in pivotal moments in big games. In reality though it is less memorable moments that hurt & the cumulative impact not maximising return on the investment in each surge forward has.

    In 2015 it was really stark. We had so many I50s that went down the drain, it burnt us heavily. You can ride your luck and get them n volume alone but eventually a team will be particularly efficient when they have momentum and kill the game.

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    It's a combination of mental & technical. The technique breaks down under pressure. So we either have to fix the technique so it's more robust under stress or we need to fix the mentality to not feel as pressured in stressful scenarios.

    Or even better, a combination of both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    It's a combination of mental & technical. The technique breaks down under pressure. So we either have to fix the technique so it's more robust under stress or we need to fix the mentality to not feel as pressured in stressful scenarios.

    Or even better, a combination of both.
    I think we need to simplify the goal kicking routine to three or four simple things. Draw a deep breath and relax as you are walking back to tak your shot. Run in a straight line. Keep your head over the ball as it hits your foot so you can watch the ball onto your boot. Stand up straight as you kick the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    I think we need to simplify the goal kicking routine to three or four simple things. Draw a deep breath and relax as you are walking back to tak your shot. Run in a straight line. Keep your head over the ball as it hits your foot so you can watch the ball onto your boot. Stand up straight as you kick the ball.

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    Menzel from Geelong cured his yips from last year by practicing a new run up technique over summer. It involved not running into a straight line when kicking for goal. He is a right footer.

    And then there’s his football comeback that resulted in 18 games last year and 33 goals, an amount that still angers Menzel after he kicked 8.14 in his first six games before going 25.8 when assistant coach Nigel Lappin explained he needed to kick with a hook.

    “Nigel made the point that I’m a good field kick, as most players are, because you kick around your body a bit rather than kicking dead straight. You have a natural hook in your kick so what you are doing is running straight into goal and missing to your left. So I used a small hook in my run-up towards the end and my goal kicking went up straight away at training and in matches.”

    Despite what he has been through, Menzel still sets very high standards. So how did he rate his first year back after first injuring his knee in the 2011 finals.

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