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Re: This should be the last year for Murphy, MBoyd and Morris
I see your point. But, I'd pay a few extra $100K's a year to have Rockliff getting the ball 25 times a game over Jong doing so, but I'm biased towards players who can use the ball. My using his credentials or accolades was only to demonstrate past quality and that it was high. If he was one legged and playing poorly now then past achievements wouldn't be a consideration.
I'm not 100% certain we won't see a bit of a shake up with some players who are regular fixtures in the side leaving the club at the end of the year. Perhaps we might have some space for him.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: This should be the last year for Murphy, MBoyd and Morris
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Doc26
Who are the other Kelly's out there that will force the opposition to pay attention to, to give Marcus a chop out?
Jack Steven is the type of player we need, line breaking mid. Pendlebury is up there with Bonts and may want out of Collingwood who seem to get worse every year
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Doc26
He can no doubt play and offers flexibility in that he can go forward or back but I don't see him as an elite destructive type midfielder, more an accumulator who for mine too often seems to play on his own terms. Closer to B grader these days
They play him as an outside mid or forward, he's an on-baller. As I said earlier, horrendously mismanaged. Brisbane are like we were under McCartney, and look what Bevo was able to do with a worse list with some belief, gameplan and positional changes
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If you equate Judd with Marcus, who do you equate Cox, Cousins and Kerr with in our best midfield? This to me highlights the type of gap that I'm trying to convey.
Cox = English
Cousins = Macrae
Kerr = Dahlhaus
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bulldogtragic
We don't have a Cox type likely any time soon
English?
If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.
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Re: This should be the last year for Murphy, MBoyd and Morris
^^^
Maybe longer term. I'm primarily thinking of the size and imposing physical presence Cox had and ability to offer a chop out to help Judd. English will be a gun, but right now we don't have that presence and we are rucking Bonts. I'm pretty sure Judd didn't ruck back in the WCE hay day.
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Maybe thats the last time we see Morris. Gee i hope not.
The curse is dead.
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chef
Maybe thats the last time we see Morris. Gee i hope not.
I really hate seeing him injured. I love him to death, but seeing him suffer injury and serious pain is hard to watch. He owes this club and members nothing, and if it's a broken arm I'd prefer to see him retire. I was talking to an ex-league footballer last year and we were going over all his problems post footy, who didn't play nearly as much as Dale. I'd genuinely prefer his family and ability to play with his kids to be the priority. The club will make it work, or maybe it's me, but watching the second potentially serious injury for the year after his spine repairing has made me feel physically unwell.
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bulldogtragic
I really hate seeing him injured. I love him to death, but seeing him suffer injury and serious pain is hard to watch. He owes this club and members nothing, and if it's a broken arm I'd prefer to see him retire. I was talking to an ex-league footballer last year and we were going over all his problems post footy, who didn't play nearly as much as Dale. I'd genuinely prefer his family and ability to play with his kids to be the priority. The club will make it work, or maybe it's me, but watching the second potentially serious injury for the year after his spine repairing has made me feel physically unwell.
I have said it hundred times, we play the guy on the talls and he has to put his body on the line and in the end it gets you. I hope he doesn't go out like this.
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Re: This should be the last year for Murphy, MBoyd and Morris
Broken both bones in his forearm.
*!*!*!*!.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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bornadog
I have said it hundred times, we play the guy on the talls and he has to put his body on the line and in the end it gets you. I hope he doesn't go out like this.
Agree not to mention that he's also slowed up which leads to him being in unbalanced positions too often than not.
I don't view it as a freak accident but more one waiting to happen unfortunately.
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Bloody awful news ![Mad](images/smilies/mad.png)
What a superb selfless individual Dale Morris has been for our club .
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22-07-2017, 10:02 PM
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Bloody awful news
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What a superb selfless individual Dale Morris has been for our club .
One of the best defenders ever.
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22-07-2017, 10:37 PM
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I'm backing Morris to go again. *!*!*!*!i it the bloke played in a premiership with a broken back. Murph and Moyd are done.
"Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"
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23-07-2017, 12:12 AM
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bornadog
I have said it hundred times, we play the guy on the talls and he has to put his body on the line and in the end it gets you. I hope he doesn't go out like this.
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Doc26
Agree not to mention that he's also slowed up which leads to him being in unbalanced positions too often than not.
I don't view it as a freak accident but more one waiting to happen unfortunately.
We played Cordy & Young on Lynch & Wright. Players move around, rest on the bench and create mismatches though. Caleb Daniel is outsized by 20cm in marking contests every week but doesn't hurt himself. Just unfortunate, sad if that's the end for him
If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.
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23-07-2017, 12:27 AM
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boydogs
We played Cordy & Young on Lynch & Wright. Players move around, rest on the bench and create mismatches though. Caleb Daniel is outsized by 20cm in marking contests every week but doesn't hurt himself. Just unfortunate, sad if that's the end for him
Yes but different story in Dale's case when you're mismatched with height coupled with the effects of age up against you i.e agility, mobility, reaction time etc no longer as it once was.
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23-07-2017, 12:42 AM
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Re: This should be the last year for Murphy, MBoyd and Morris
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Doc26
Yes but different story in Dale's case when you're mismatched with height coupled with the effects of age up against you i.e agility, mobility, reaction time etc no longer as it once was.
The nature of his injury tonight meant that it could have occurred in virtually any contest where he fell heavily. It could have happened if his opponent was Touk Miller instead of Tom Lynch.
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
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23-07-2017, 12:43 AM
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One of the best defenders ever.
In my view....THE best Bulldogs defender and one of the best AFL defenders.
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
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