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    Re: AFL Round 10, 2017 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    I'll take your word for it mate. Having ssid that I won't be surprised we see it again this weekend.
    You won't see it again this weekend because every coach will be reminding their players that they have to start walking in before the clock gets to zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I understand your point. Someone on Twitter said the clock started when he was lying on the ground. By the time he got up, lined up etc at least 10 seconds gone. He may not have looked at the scoreboard and thought he had more time. As Sedat says, he was also surrounded by Geelong players. ( not sure how close they were.)
    I agree that the Geelong players look quite close.
    Dixon would have been told there was 15 seconds gone and then again when there was 5 seconds left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    From what you do see, Dixon looks like he is about to get up. The 30 seconds would have started straight away as the ball is in his arms.
    You then hear and see the umpire whistle, tells the player and signal when there is 5 seconds left.
    The other thing the video shows is the Geelong player on the left is far to close.
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    So the umpire chose to enforce one rule (Dixon started his run up a millisecond over 30) over another (Geelong player in the restricted zone). One favoured the home team, one didn't. What a shocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    So the umpire chose to enforce one rule (Dixon started his run up a millisecond over 30) over another (Geelong player in the restricted zone). One favoured the home team, one didn't. What a shocker.
    I'm not disputing that, just saying the 30 second rule is one that is not open to interpretation and was applied exactly how it should be.

    I was at Geelong last week and it was very frustrating. With the new stand and the big, one sided crowd, it will rival Subiaco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aker39 View Post
    From what you do see, Dixon looks like he is about to get up. The 30 seconds would have started straight away as the ball is in his arms.
    You then hear and see the umpire whistle, tells the player and signal when there is 5 seconds left.
    The other thing the video shows is the Geelong player on the left is far to close.
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    I have a real issue with this particular rule being black and white but others being open to interpretation. As we've seen tonight, the black and white approach saw a massive impact on play that was a result of action that was inconsequential to the broader way in which the game is played. Does it really matter that Dixon took too long to get back to his goal kicking position? Why not start the clock after time on once he's running in or taken a kick?

    If we hold a player to such strict guidelines by suggesting he should be watching the shot clock, is it on the umpires to measure out the ten metres his opponents can start his run up from?

    If a player is completely smashed in a marking contest through something not called but unfair and it impacts his ability to take a kick in the required time, should taking the ball for a kick mean he's subject to the thirty second rule? Is it discretionary post that?

    I take your point that it's not the umpire's fault Aker, but none of it makes sense in a black and white world. My suggestion is we give the umpires a break, estimate these things, otherwise we'll have to sweat on everything.
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    10 metre rule

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    Re: AFL Round 10, 2017 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by aker39 View Post
    From what you do see, Dixon looks like he is about to get up. The 30 seconds would have started straight away as the ball is in his arms.
    You then hear and see the umpire whistle, tells the player and signal when there is 5 seconds left.
    The other thing the video shows is the Geelong player on the left is far to close.

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    Re: AFL Round 10, 2017 Discussion

    If a player is injured, the umpire would signal time on and the 30 second clock would stop until time is signalled back on.

    He doesn't need to watch the shot clock.
    He is told twice how long to go.
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    Re: AFL Round 10, 2017 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    10 metre rule

    That player is Mitch Duncan, who of course was first on the scene to pressure Dixon after the play on call. Nice loophole found by the Cats there - kudos to them for being switched on at the time but it is manifestly unfair for a player 3m away to jump in on Dixon when he should have been 10m away.
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    It's essentially a moot point given Dixon should have been taking a shot from the goal line?
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    Re: AFL Round 10, 2017 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by aker39 View Post
    If a player is injured, the umpire would signal time on and the 30 second clock would stop until time is signalled back on.

    He doesn't need to watch the shot clock.
    He is told twice how long to go.
    Are you responding to my post Aker39?

    What if he's not materially injured but slowed down from impact that was unfair? Assume it would then come down to discreation?

    I'm not being a smart arse, just trying to understand.
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