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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    Do it with someone less valuable then? If he's just in there to win the footy, why not make one of the lesser mids pretend to ruck and not risk injury to our best player.

    There's legitimately no logic behind it.
    It worked and we won.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    I think its a storm in a tea cup. As pointed out by one of the comnentators the days of ruckmen charging in from 15 metres is gone. How many injuries have we seen in recent times in ruck contests?
    Its not ideal and I hope our recruiting team have it firmly on their agenda to address our ruck situation at the conclusion of the year. Certainly from a risk management perspective its a low risk but high consequence situation, and we would not want that set up to be the norm.
    I think the fact that Kruezer is not a Mumford or Sandilands type physique made the MC comfortable with their tactical decision.

    I more marvel at Bont's ability to take on that role and for his output to not be diminished. What a super human.
    And whilst the media are gushing over Dangerfield's performance they should also be calling out Bont's efforts on the weekend.

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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    Do it with someone less valuable then? If he's just in there to win the footy, why not make one of the lesser mids pretend to ruck and not risk injury to our best player.

    There's legitimately no logic behind it.
    He can't have a tagger hanging off him and giving sneaky elbows in the ribs if he's the dezo ruckman. It's a way to give him space at stoppages. It doesn't always work on our favour but neither does having a proper ruckman.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    The part where he got the loose contested ball. He wasn't played in the ruck to win the hit out.
    Couldn't he have done that as a midfielder instead of pushing and shoving with a guy 10-15kg heavier?

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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    It worked and we won.
    And the affect it has/had on Bont's body is of no concern? He looked absolutely buggered late in the game so lets hope he is right to go against GC this week... and for the rest of the season.

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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    And the affect it has/had on Bont's body is of no concern? He looked absolutely buggered late in the game so lets hope he is right to go against GC this week... and for the rest of the season.
    You think the coaching staff are going to risk him? I think they know what they are doing.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    You think the coaching staff are going to risk him? I think they know what they are doing.
    In what way? Play him when he isn't right or play him in the ruck again?

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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    It worked and we won.
    We won because of weaker opposition with our poor forward line still a worry. Always a risk to play your best player in a role that he is unfamiliar. In fairness without Campbell, Tom Boyd and two good fill in second stringers with a good spring in Jong and Dunckley, we had run out of options apart from English who is clearly not ready. The other possibility was Redpath who in spite of his size has little appeal in the ruck.

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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Don't get the comments about Redpath in the ruck. In many games he's been more than competitive...at centre bounces anyway. Would rather him banging up his body than Bont.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    And the affect it has/had on Bont's body is of no concern? He looked absolutely buggered late in the game so lets hope he is right to go against GC this week... and for the rest of the season.
    He looked tired all through the game. It was a huge credit to him to be so productive for 4 quarters.

    I'd certainly prefer that he wasn't used in the ruck that much at all but we are probably running out of options.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Quote Originally Posted by always right View Post
    Don't get the comments about Redpath in the ruck. In many games he's been more than competitive...at centre bounces anyway. Would rather him banging up his body than Bont.
    Trouble was when he was in the Ruck, Roughy wasn't at FF, and that effected our structure.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Few times he didn't even go up, so he became an extra in the middle .
    Not a great fan of it , but like a Ferrari being driven on a dirt road .

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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

    Bont being deployed in the ruck is the modern day equivalent of using Granty to fill the hole.
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    Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 17, 2017 vs Carlton

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