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If the deals don't get done?
The word is that we are a fair way off getting the Josh Dunkley or Rory Lobb deals done.
I think we can all agree that Brisbane's initial offer for Dunkley was unacceptable and they prioritised the two father sons over Dunks.
Lobb is an interesting one, on paper he fits our needs almost perfectly but we seem to be a fair way apart with what Freo expect and what we are prepared to pay.
How would you feel if we walked Dunks to the PSD and we didn't get a deal for Lobb done and that Liam Jones is the only fish that we landed?
I'm a drafts focused person and would like to have more picks this year but I can understand why we don't want to lose Dunkley for a significant discount. I've also been lukewarm about bringing Lobb in for next season.
I think most of us would have been prepared to not get one of these deals done but I'm not so sure about how people would feel about not getting either of those deals done.
What are your thoughts?
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The issue with not getting Lobb across the line is it may hurt in future years, as players may not want to 'do a Dunkley' and nominate a club that can't get the deal done.
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Apparently the Lobb deal will be discussed today with Freo. My gut feel is it will be done, however, seems the Dunkley deal is way off at the moment.
I voted for the last option - let's get some players to fill gaps.
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I'm sure we've considered other deals, I really want us to take a first rounder to draft though. Ideally more.
I'd rather forego a fringe player from another club if it means preserving our earlier picks.
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Just get the Dunkley deal done.
I'm actually surprised the club was so openly loving to him at the B and F (in the room people were standing and applauding) and now we won't facilitate a deal.
I get it's on both parties, and no doubt the Lions first offer was unders but can't we just get it done and move onto other things!
Future first and 21. The difference bw 15 and 21 I don't get the angst (eg if we would deal with 15 for eg).
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I have no idea how things will play out but I do suspect what ever happens this trade and draft period will be instructive as to whether Bevo is with us beyond 2023.
If we have a good 2023 then I suspect the club will be able to claim the approach taken in 2022 trade/drat period was justified.
If we struggle then I think the acid will (fairly) come directly onto the football department including the Head Coach.
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Just get the Dunkley deal done.
I'm actually surprised the club was so openly loving to him at the B and F (in the room people were standing and applauding) and now we won't facilitate a deal.
I get it's on both parties, and no doubt the Lions first offer was unders but can't we just get it done and move onto other things!
Future first and 21. The difference bw 15 and 21 I don't get the angst (eg if we would deal with 15 for eg).
we are facilitating a deal, we arent giving him away for nothing.
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I'm probably a much-worse poker player than Power, but I'd be getting close to the point of doing the Dunkley deal at unders and turning our attention elsewhere. He doesn't want to be here, this is the second time it's gone this way with Josh and there's no option for us to hold onto him this time.
I don't think he's critical to our success next year - take the best Brisbane offer we'll get, bank the salary cap space and see what jockeying we can do elsewhere.
I wouldn't be moving from our initial Lobb offer which felt like fair value to me, but that's because I don't want or think we need him.
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Originally Posted by
lemmon
I'm probably a much-worse poker player than Power, but I'd be getting close to the point of doing the Dunkley deal at unders and turning our attention elsewhere. He doesn't want to be here, this is the second time it's gone this way with Josh and there's no option for us to hold onto him this time.
I don't think he's critical to our success next year - take the best Brisbane offer we'll get, bank the salary cap space and see what jockeying we can do elsewhere.
I wouldn't be moving from our initial Lobb offer which felt like fair value to me, but that's because I don't want or think we need him.
He's screwed us once and dictated the position he wants to play, now he's hi-jacking the trade period. I'm sure we can walk and chew bubble gum but lets be rid of this loathsome priest !
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
we are facilitating a deal, we arent giving him away for nothing.
Future first and 21 isn't nothing surely ? (To be fair I don't know the current offer).
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Just get the Dunkley deal done.
I'm actually surprised the club was so openly loving to him at the B and F (in the room people were standing and applauding) and now we won't facilitate a deal.
I get it's on both parties, and no doubt the Lions first offer was unders but can't we just get it done and move onto other things!
Future first and 21. The difference bw 15 and 21 I don't get the angst (eg if we would deal with 15 for eg).
Are they offering 21 and Future 1st ?
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Originally Posted by
chef
Are they offering 21 and Future 1st ?
They want something back as well
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Originally Posted by
chef
Are they offering 21 and Future 1st ?
That's what is being reported but I've got no idea tbh.
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If the deals don't get done hit the draft!
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