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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Footy has not been progressed/enhanced by disallowing runners.
Disagree.
Coach during the week. Play on match day. About the only rule changes I DO like are the interchange limit and the minimisation of runners...
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Originally Posted by
mjp
Disagree.
Coach during the week. Play on match day. About the only rule changes I DO like are the interchange limit and the minimisation of runners...
I know we both disagree on this one. I also can't see the point of interchange limits
Why don't you like it?
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Originally Posted by
lemmon
I used the term 'Plan B' incorrectly in a post after the game...
So I think instead of 'Plan B' what everyone means ('cos this is what I have seen from the responses) is just an improved 'what-if' strategy assessment - and one that is pretty well understood by the players (particularly the leaders in each line).
'What if...' we lose a key defender?
'What if...' we lose another key defender?
'What if...' midfielder 'x' is limited by the oppo?
'What if...' we can't generate any run from the backline?
'What if...' oppo forward 'x' kicks 3 or more in a quarter? In a half? In WHATEVER period of time? And in what circumstances???
(eg. Do relayed free kicks count? Do 'Joe the Goose' goals count?? Is is a raw number or is there a 'key'??)
You get the idea...I guess there are two sides to the equation:
1/. What makes their game 'GO'? And if it's going, what steps do we take to stop it??
2/. What makes OUR game 'GO'? And if they stop it, what are our plans to do something about it??
See - when I listen to Bevo post game he pretty clinically identifies where things went right and wrong - no trouble. But I guess I would love to know who is running the 'war room' (I hate that term but you know what I mean) to challenge the coaches and work out what the STEP BY STEP plans are for the day.
eg. English goes down. Lobb rucks. Simple right?
- But what if Lobb has already kicked 4 goals and is our best forward? THEN who rucks? Maybe the answer is still Lobb? Maybe the answer is "Lobb rucks - but we take a look at things on the day and Gardner (for example) is option 2"...
I don't know. I'm 100% sure the MC does this but I don't know who runs it...and it did seem on the weekend that whatever the plans were, we didn't really execute them effectively. Then again - as I have said - at 3/4 time we were still in front and maybe the decision was to simply ride it out, let our best players play and they would get us over the line...
If that was the plan I'm actually fine with it...we lost so it isn't optimal (for that game) but it does send a pretty clear "Hey - we are going to back you guys in to dig us out of this hole/get us going again" message which is a long-term positive...the last thing you want when the pressure comes on is the players looking around for some kind of coaching master-stroke...what you want them to do is say "This is our issue...let's dig in" and then if changes happen around them, they CONTINUE to dig in...
Hoping all of this makes sense.
Plan B is a myth.
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
I want them to hold up a sign with a picture of the West Gate Bridge so they know to...
Go. Slow.
Traffic joke.
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I want them to hold up a sign with a picture of the West Gate Bridge so they know to...
Go. Slow.
Traffic joke.
I prefer the following:
Sydney Harbor Bridge.
Not as Long
Or as Tall
As the West Gate Bridge.
Fact.
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
This should be Plan A.
I was going to add if this was Plan B, I'm hoping the MC quickly make it plan A!
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
Plan A Long bombs to Caleb then plan B long bombs from Caleb
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Re: When posters say "Plan B" - What do they mean??
when i think of plan B, i dont think of a whole new gameplan - rather tweaks to it inside 4 quarters. Agree there needs to be an element of predictability and players need to maintain an element of flow. So rather than a Plan B - i always refer to the change im after as a pivot.
For example:
- tag a midfielder who is tearing us apart. Happens all the time! Either English is dominated or we just cant get first hands on the ball and their spread is too good. Regardless - target the playmaker and clamp them down for 10 minutes.
- when defenders are injured and our key forward is being dominated by the opposition key back - put our best defender not playing as a defender in defense rather than an uncoordinated giraffe
- move one of our forwards up the ground when they havent touched it half way through the second quarter. to be fair, this has happened recently with jamarra and naughts - felt like it took too long
Im sure there are plenty of examples people here can give of where we have pivoted in games. Honestly, i dont see many of them, just a stubbornness around our skill and gameplan
The dam wall has busted!
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