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25-04-2024, 01:37 PM
#196
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
I am very happy with English, his actual ruck work might not be in the top 5-10 but his around the ground game is exceptional, not often you see a bloke his size run and bounce as often as he does , his tank is great , you will see him kick goals and drop back and take marks in defence.
I’m a fan of Lobb doing the centre bounce, he has more body work in him.
English is more a roaming ruck standing one kick away from play to intercept or kick a goal.
Bring back the biff
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27-04-2024, 11:19 PM
#197
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
I want to keep him on a fair price. But $1M for set shot misses like tonight and getting out marked by Aish and man handled ain’t a $1M man.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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27-04-2024, 11:42 PM
#198
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
We can’t tank the old fashioned way. The only way we get a top 10 pick this year is FA compo for Tim. Currently Pick 9.
I think it’s a genuine question now. Do we delay talks because another million dollar salary or a top 10 pick is worthy of debate.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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27-04-2024, 11:43 PM
#199
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Bank the cash and take the pick.
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27-04-2024, 11:44 PM
#200
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
We can’t tank the old fashioned way. The only way we get a top 10 pick this year is FA compo for Tim. Currently Pick 9.
I think it’s a genuine question now. Do we delay talks because another million dollar salary or a top 10 pick is worthy of debate.
Is it basically Croft costing us whatever this year's pick is?
So could be a top 10....
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27-04-2024, 11:46 PM
#201
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Is it basically Croft costing us whatever this year's pick is?
So could be a top 10....
More so the Pick 13 and currently Pick 8 for Sanders.
The pick 23 is effectively Croft, Freijah & 50 this year.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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27-04-2024, 11:46 PM
#202
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
If he wants 1m let him go.
My order of signings was always JUH, English then Smith.
I think Smith is more important now.
Ive honestly had enough of Enlgish. He only wants to do so much. He's a great talent but he's holding himself back for some reason. We need to get rid of all these types so we can become a competitive machine again ala 2016
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27-04-2024, 11:48 PM
#203
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
What rubbish. Not sure a player who had 23 disposals, 7 marks, 6 tackles is a problem? Yes he should have nailed two more goals, but so should others like Bont 5 metres out.
I don't get the hatred for this player and the angst about what the club will pay him.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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27-04-2024, 11:53 PM
#204
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
What rubbish. Not sure a player who had 23 disposals, 7 marks, 6 tackles is a problem? Yes he should have nailed two more goals, but so should others like Bont 5 metres out.
I don't get the hatred for this player and the angst about what the club will pay him.
What's not to get? He's not worth what he reportedly wants.
I'm with you I thought he was pretty good tonight, but for a million dollars ruckman I want all of what Tim does well plus a really really good ruckman too.
"It's over. It's all over."
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27-04-2024, 11:54 PM
#205
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
What rubbish. Not sure a player who had 23 disposals, 7 marks, 6 tackles is a problem? Yes he should have nailed two more goals, but so should others like Bont 5 metres out.
I don't get the hatred for this player and the angst about what the club will pay him.
I don't think anyone hates him. People hate, including me, the price we're going to pay to keep him. Moneyball the ruck, let him walk and take the compensation/trade.
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27-04-2024, 11:57 PM
#206
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
What's not to get? He's not worth what he reportedly wants.
I'm with you I thought he was pretty good tonight, but for a million dollars ruckman I want all of what Tim does well plus a really really good ruckman too.
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
I don't think anyone hates him. People hate, including me, the price we're going to pay to keep him. Moneyball the ruck, let him walk and take the compensation/trade.
I actually don't get why people worry about a players salary, I certainly don't care. What I care about is whether he is good enough to play the role.
English is worth what the market wants to pay him. The market dictates a players worth.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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27-04-2024, 11:57 PM
#207
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
If he wants 1m let him go.
My order of signings was always JUH, English then Smith.
I think Smith is more important now.
Ive honestly had enough of Enlgish. He only wants to do so much. He's a great talent but he's holding himself back for some reason. We need to get rid of all these types so we can become a competitive machine again ala 2016
I thought he was ok tonight. That Aish mark though...cant unsee that.
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27-04-2024, 11:58 PM
#208
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I actually don't get why people worry about a players salary, I certainly don't care. What I care about is whether he is good enough to play the role.
English is worth what the market wants to pay him. The market dictates a players worth.
If there was no salary cap, sure. Lose Marra or Darcy down the track to a monster offer and that extra million bucks to Tim looks a little different than just another salary.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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28-04-2024, 12:00 AM
#209
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
If there was no salary cap, sure. Lose Marra or Darcy down the track to a monster offer and that extra million bucks to Tim looks a little different than just another salary.
that's where a smart List manager comes in
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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28-04-2024, 12:01 AM
#210
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
He’s not having a great season.