Tribunal / suspensions 2024

[Uninformed]

What's there to agree or disagree with as you dont get to choose if you want to be or not. It's just who you are.

So the people that do not think that is a good thing are homophobic? Perhaps they are just wrong in some peoples opinion?

[Grantysghost]

What's there to agree or disagree with as you dont get to choose if you want to be or not. It's just who you are.

But chef, if you tolerate them... You might turn gay. Also if they touch you, you might turn gay.

[Grantysghost]

So the people that do not think that is a good thing are homophobic Perhaps they are just wrong

Fixed!

[chef]

So the people that do not think that is a good thing are homophobic? Perhaps they are just wrong in some peoples opinion?

If you think being gay is a bad thing yes you are homophobic.

These people should just own it rather than hide behind their beliefs.

[angelopetraglia]

If you think being gay is a bad thing yes you are homophobic.

These people should just own it rather than hide behind their beliefs.

Agree with your thoughts. But it is a small issue compared to the issues with homophobia outside the western world. The majority of the population in this country voted for gay marriage. We are tolerant. We can be better. But we don't condone homophobia in this country. Gay rights are celebrated by big business, Government and all of our sporting bodies.

Just compare Australia's tolerance to this. We are debating inner feelings on a topic and how you should be judged for that where there are countries who are literally killing people for being a gay.

There are six countries where there is capital punishment for homosexuality.

Saudia Arabia
Yemen
Iran
Muaritania
Brunei
Nigeria

There are further five countries where the death penalty may be imposed.

Afghanistan
Pakistan
Qatar
Somalia
UAE

The population of those countries is 700m. How many of them are living in fear of being executed because they were born a certain way. Absolutely horrific.

We give the AFL a hard time. What about LIV Golf? It is in Adelaide this week. It is owned by Saudia Arabia. Anyone talking about gay rights at this event?

[Grantysghost]

Why would anyone have a problem with someone being born a certain way, afforded the right to be happy?

Bizarre.

Pickett appealing was classic (back on thread!)

[Uninformed]

Fixed!

Yep. Easier to hang on to prejudice than think rationally.

[jazzadogs]

Pickett appealing was classic (back on thread!)

Mid-air, he decided to throw his elbow out at his opponents jaw. And they appealed!!!!

[jeemak]

Mid-air, he decided to throw his elbow out at his opponents jaw. And they appealed!!!!

That's how cooked the system is.

[GVGjr]

Mid-air, he decided to throw his elbow out at his opponents jaw. And they appealed!!!!

And a few frequent fighter points racked up. It was a long-shot appeal.

[angelopetraglia]

Cry baby taunt to Petty https://x.com/foxfooty/status/177839...y1lhUs8p7uzZ_A

[angelopetraglia]

Ralph

Zorko apologised for the initial sledge regarding Petty?s mother in 2022, said he needed to be a better leader. The Demons had sledged Zorko too that night. Then Linc McCarthy mocked Petty for his tears late in 2022. Now Answerth. Why drag yourself into it with the win sealed?

[jazzadogs]

Charlie Cameron suspension downgraded because of his community service. Unreal.

"The AFL Tribunal found that this was ‘medium’ impact, but downgraded the sanction from a one-match ban to a fine based on exceptional and compelling circumstances.

We turn now to exceptional and compelling circumstances.

We find that those circumstances do exist here.

Cameron has played for 10 years without being suspended - 207 games suspension-free puts him in a very small minority.

Only 668 players of the 13,125 who have played the game at the elite level have played 200 games. Almost half of those have been suspended for one match or more.

Cameron is clearly in the unusual category in this regard.

This alone would not be enough in our view to result in us necessarily describing it as an exemplary record or, if it was, to exercise our discretion to downgrade.

We note in this matter Cameron has suffered five fines in his history, including three for rough conduct, the charge he faces tonight.

It is however the case that he has not been suspended for 207 games.

The matters that cause us to downgrade this sanction from a one-week suspension to a fine commensurate with a low impact grading are as follows.

1) While this was careless, it was at the lower range of careless. Cameron knew Lever had one arm free. He is much smaller and lighter than Lever and, as he said, lost control of a tackle. If he didn’t rotate 95-plus kilograms of Jake Lever, he would’ve landed squarely on his 74-kilogramme frame.

It was careless but not grossly careless.

We take into account Cameron’s guilty plea, his acceptance that he could and should have released Lever’s arm.

2) While this was medium impact for the reasons we stated, Lever suffered no injury or apparent discomfort.
The difference between this case and the three examples that were graded low impact was real but not significant.

3) The references from Eddie Betts and Gregory Egert provide impressive details of the work Cameron does in the Indigenous community.

He is a role model with an impressive AFL career, it is something for those he connects with aspire to.


These matters are not irrelevant when we come to exercise our discretion in respect of a first suspendable offence when no injury was suffered and was neither intentional or grossly negligent.

Exceptional and compelling means what it says. It will be a rare case when all of the circumstances combine to result in an exercise of discretion to downgrade a sanction.

This is such a case.

We determine in our discretion the appropriate sanction is the fine that would be imposed on Cameron if this was graded as low impact.

[Axe Man]

I would have been ok with it being downgraded to low impact because it really was pretty minor but all the character stuff is nauseating. The tackle is either worthy of a 1 week suspension or it isn't, doesn't matter who the tackler was.

[Axe Man]

How many weeks for Toby Greene? Similar to 2 metre Peter but this time the victim got up. Can’t wait for GWS to pull out the good bloke defence