Tribunal / suspensions 2024

[angelopetraglia]

Dan Carlin hardcore history are also great.

I only listened to Dan Carlin when he was on the Rest of History and really enjoyed it.

I must listen to one of his series.

[FrediKanoute]

The problem with head high contact and the AFL is inconsistency that the AFL applies. Pickett gets 2 weeks for the bump on Smith. Maynard gets off for the bump on Brayshaw. We are calling for 6 to 8 weeks for Webster's on Symkin. Part of he problem with long suspensions is that they have to be meticulously justified in order to make them seem fair. Yes Symkin's head knock could be career ending or life amending, but Webster missing 8 weeks could be career ending as well. Inconsistency on what is and what isn't a headknock that merits a long suspension and what merit's a short suspension is the problem.

Take a look at how Rugby Union deals with tackles to the head.

A player must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. A tackle around the opponent?s neck or head is dangerous play.

So we have a very clear statement about what is allowed and not allowed. We then have a framework for assessing the action itself and that happens.


Is the incident a high tackle or a shoulder charge?

ii. If so, was there contact with the head or neck of the ball-carrier?

iii. What was the degree of danger ? high or low?

iv. Are there clear and obvious mitigating factors?



By working through these steps Rugby Union officials apply a consistent approach to dealing with high tackles and players know that if they connect with the head they are in trouble, unless there are clear and obvious mitigating circumstances. This means that there is not some bullsh*t opinion from a biomechanic's expert, but real mitigants like a player ducking into a tackle, or being pushed into contact.

The AFL if it was serious about player welfare would do well to come up with a similar framework. It wont though, because can you imagine the furore when XYZ player misses a GF as a result.

This website is really instructive - https://rugbyandthelaw.com/2020/11/0...eree-sent-off/

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I only listened to Dan Carlin when he was on the Rest of History and really enjoyed it.

I must listen to one of his series.

Ghosts of the Osfront and Blueprint for Armageddon are good starters.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Dan Carlin hardcore history are also great.

Dan Carlin is just a great communicator. Hardcore History, as well as Hardcore History Addendum, and when he gets around to doing an episode every one or two years Common Sense. Great podcasts.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Ghosts of the Osfront and Blueprint for Armageddon are good starters.

Yep as a WW1 nuffy, his Countdown to Armageddon is some 18 hrs of the most engaging listening; combining factual well sourced storytelling, and an array of historical detail and told in such a manner that leaves you in no doubt that Dan really loves history and loves building an engaging narrative.

[ledge]

Yep as a WW1 nuffy, his Countdown to Armageddon is some 18 hrs of the most engaging listening; combining factual well sourced storytelling, and an array of historical detail and told in such a manner that leaves you in no doubt that Dan really loves history and loves building an engaging narrative.

Umm what’s this got to do with the thread ?

[angelopetraglia]

Umm what’s this got to do with the thread ?

Ha. My fault. There was a reference to JFK. I mentioned a history podcast on JFK for those interested. It grew legs from there. Like many great WOOF threads, they sometimes go on mysterious paths.

[ledge]

Ha. My fault. There was a reference to JFK. I mentioned a history podcast on JFK for those interested. It grew legs from there. Like many great WOOF threads, they sometimes go on mysterious paths.

I mentioned him lol

[Axe Man]

How the **** is that not considered intentional?

The absence of a weapon is all I can conclude.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Ha. My fault. There was a reference to JFK. I mentioned a history podcast on JFK for those interested. It grew legs from there. Like many great WOOF threads, they sometimes go on mysterious paths.

I love this about woof. Great conversation always does this.

[ledge]

The absence of a weapon is all I can conclude.

Akin to the hit on Brereton all those years ago , lined him up and whack.

[Bulldog Joe]

I don't think it was careless. It was intentional. He lined him up with and old fashioned hip and shoulder, something you would have seen in the 70s and 80s.

I agree that it should not be considered careless.

It was a deliberate intentional action and there is no mitigation to it.

[GVGjr]

Webster has been suspended for 7 weeks. It's a big suspension but around the mark required.

[Grantysghost]

Webster has been suspended for 7 weeks. It's a big suspension but around the mark required.

Pretty good result i think

[chef]

Appropriate.