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Re: The Footy Show
Originally Posted by
aker39
I saw Hutchy after the game and all the Dogs supporters were giving him high fives and thanking him for bringing the supporters to the game.
I actually sat next to Hutchie at a lunch a bit over a year ago. He was good to talk to personally. Unguarded and pretty natural. Decent bloke, rwally. Does his best in the media and fair to say his best is pretty good. Also like his Saturday morning show, as other posters have said.
Problems with The Footy Show do not lie with Hutchie. Its problems lie in the fact that it's no longer a footy show with a sprinkling of variety and humour. It's now a B grade variety show with a sprinkling of footy. Also, when the show first started, you just didn't see footballers in the media. I remember when it first came on thinking "Geez, is that what Doug's personality and voice sounds like! I'm fascinated to get to know him!"
Now, (no, make that the last 15 years) the show's problem is that everyone hears these players speak on a weekly basis. There's no intrigue. It's saturation. So that sprinkling of personality has lost its punch.
Instead of recognising that as the core reason why the show's viewership has dropped off, the producers have "chased the dragon" by thinking that more sprinkles are the way to go.
In fact, the exact opposite is the truth. They've needed to leverage the core value of the show - the football. Instead, they've pursued the wrong path and completely stuffed it. I turned off around 2000.
Now Fox Footy have stolen the march, whilst the Ch7 show with Mick Molloy, Sam Pang and Andy Maher (who's inferior to Hutchie, imo - not that it's an overly significant ingredient) has outflanked it for simple, laid back humour. Thing is, 2 of the 3 are actually comedians-cum-entertainers. That beats Sam Newman and a bunch of mundane footballers every time. It's so simple. I wonder why such highly paid TV execs can't work it out!
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Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Couldn't help himself but troll but he's OK. I speak and text him fairly often-he lives around the corner from my mum. I think he's going to Cairns.
Please give my regards to the great man.
I've met him a few times in Sydney. I still remember our last meeting at the Sydney Star Casino where he was an utter chick magnet for hotties, albeit very mature ones
The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
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And after all the criticism (quite justified) of The Footy Show on this thread, I'd like to post a positive comment.
I really like The Front bar, particularly when they get in players (great and otherwise) from the past.
The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
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Front bar is excellent . It's gone from a 15 min show on the AFL app two years ago , to prime time FTA
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Originally Posted by
Remi Moses
Front bar is excellent . It's gone from a 15 min show on the AFL app two years ago , to prime time FTA
I've enjoyed The Front Bar the few times I've had a look. Sam Pang is becoming one of my favourite TV personalities.
He was on Have You Been Paying Attention when one of the panelists mentioned that his nickname was 'The Orchid' when he was playing suburban footy.
When asked why this was, Pang sheepishly replied 'because I needed perfect conditions in order to thrive'.
His work with Ed Kavalee and Santo Ciluaro during the 2012 World Cup.
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The footy show is done. Eddie won't save it unless there's a complete shake up of the format. They sacked the wrong bloke. Sam Newman is a rich moron. He thinks his opinion is the correct one because he went to Geelong grammar. They think telling the same jokes for years on end is good television. I used to watch it just to see the teams for the weekend games, but now with the internet and the AFL app I get more than that as soon as the teams are out. The footy show has run it race and getting Eddie back just shows how desperate they're getting.
The front bar is a great show that I actually look forward every week to watch. Light humour with 2 good funny men and 1 half serious bloke to get the show on track.
They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
Brian Fantana.
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Originally Posted by
Dry Rot
Please give my regards to the great man.
I've met him a few times in Sydney. I still remember our last meeting at the Sydney Star Casino where he was an utter chick magnet for hotties, albeit very mature ones
I shall pass on your regards. He is possibly the greatest wingman to walk into a nightclub.
Originally Posted by
ratsmac
The footy show is done. Eddie won't save it unless there's a complete shake up of the format. They sacked the wrong bloke. Sam Newman is a rich moron. He thinks his opinion is the correct one because he went to Geelong grammar. They think telling the same jokes for years on end is good television. I used to watch it just to see the teams for the weekend games, but now with the internet and the AFL app I get more than that as soon as the teams are out. The footy show has run it race and getting Eddie back just shows how desperate they're getting.
The front bar is a great show that I actually look forward every week to watch. Light humour with 2 good funny men and 1 half serious bloke to get the show on track.
Eddie will work for a limited time, a couple of weeks a month but Sam will drag it back down again by being Sam. You're quite right about new media beating TFS to the punch with the team announcements and robbing it of its prime reason for being.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Good move IMO. Eddie was the best host of the show, and I gained a new appreciation for him after seeing the Fox Footy post-GF. Cannot stand Hutchy, absolutely awful in that role, and don't much like his work on Footy Classified either. Don't know him personally, but hate him in the media. Smart move to give him the flick, wouldn't mind giving Maddern the same. Still think TFS is on borrowed time, but this might buy them a bit more time.
[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]
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Originally Posted by
Webby
I actually sat next to Hutchie at a lunch a bit over a year ago. He was good to talk to personally. Unguarded and pretty natural. Decent bloke, rwally. Does his best in the media and fair to say his best is pretty good. Also like his Saturday morning show, as other posters have said.
Problems with The Footy Show do not lie with Hutchie. Its problems lie in the fact that it's no longer a footy show with a sprinkling of variety and humour. It's now a B grade variety show with a sprinkling of footy. Also, when the show first started, you just didn't see footballers in the media. I remember when it first came on thinking "Geez, is that what Doug's personality and voice sounds like! I'm fascinated to get to know him!"
Now, (no, make that the last 15 years) the show's problem is that everyone hears these players speak on a weekly basis. There's no intrigue. It's saturation. So that sprinkling of personality has lost its punch.
Instead of recognising that as the core reason why the show's viewership has dropped off, the producers have "chased the dragon" by thinking that more sprinkles are the way to go.
In fact, the exact opposite is the truth. They've needed to leverage the core value of the show - the football. Instead, they've pursued the wrong path and completely stuffed it. I turned off around 2000.
Now Fox Footy have stolen the march, whilst the Ch7 show with Mick Molloy, Sam Pang and Andy Maher (who's inferior to Hutchie, imo - not that it's an overly significant ingredient) has outflanked it for simple, laid back humour. Thing is, 2 of the 3 are actually comedians-cum-entertainers. That beats Sam Newman and a bunch of mundane footballers every time. It's so simple. I wonder why such highly paid TV execs can't work it out!
They can't work it out Webby because they're blinded by their self-importance - don't forget they're in the medja!
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Well we can all blame Sheahen for the false news that comes nowadays .. He openly admitted and was proud of the fact he was the first to write opinion pieces instead of the actual news and facts. He mentions it on SEN how proud he was .. Personally it means " I'm to lazy to ring around and get facts or chase them up I will just write what I think "
Then it turns into rumours and it has got to the stage players are suffering mental illness from the media crap.
Good on you Mike Sheahen you bred blokes like Barrett.
Bring back the biff
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My two cents worth.....
For me the weakness with the Footy Show is twofold;
- it doesn't matter which footy players they have on the panel simply because they have very little to offer. They aren't allowed to have strong opinions, very few have any sort of wit, and to be honest I have very little interest in footballers off the footy field. It's why when someone like Bob Murphy gets a gig on a show, everyone is so impressed that an intelligent and funny footballer actually exists....it's rare.
- the second weakness has been mentioned previously. The people on the footy show aren't professional entertainers or comedians (Dave Hughes the exception....but debateable), they're simply people who think they're entertaining or funny. The "loveable" Billy and Shane are the village idiots, the cantankerous Sam being faux controversial, and the vanilla hosts lauded for either looking presentable or being able to string a few words together.
The bar is set so low for a show like this, it was always going to be vulnerable to a show like the Front Bar coming along to provide a better alternative. I love the Front Bar, Mick Malloy and particularly Sam Pang who is one of the best talents to hit mainstream TV in years. Having said that, the show thrives on its simplicity yet it's simplicity is its potential weakness. I reckon it needs to continue to evolve or it will become a little tired and predictable in a relatively short space of time. I think they recognise this by bringing in different faces like Judd and shortly Jonathan Brown to keep it fresh.
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
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I enjoy the Front Bar (I'm a Sam Pang fan), but I rarely watch FTA TV anymore. I watch AFL360 religiously. I can't stand Robbie but I rate Gerard Waitley (excuse spellink).
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Re: The Footy Show
Originally Posted by
always right
My two cents worth.....
For me the weakness with the Footy Show is twofold;
- it doesn't matter which footy players they have on the panel simply because they have very little to offer. They aren't allowed to have strong opinions, very few have any sort of wit, and to be honest I have very little interest in footballers off the footy field. It's why when someone like Bob Murphy gets a gig on a show, everyone is so impressed that an intelligent and funny footballer actually exists....it's rare.
- the second weakness has been mentioned previously. The people on the footy show aren't professional entertainers or comedians (Dave Hughes the exception....but debateable), they're simply people who think they're entertaining or funny. The "loveable" Billy and Shane are the village idiots, the cantankerous Sam being faux controversial, and the vanilla hosts lauded for either looking presentable or being able to string a few words together.
The bar is set so low for a show like this, it was always going to be vulnerable to a show like the Front Bar coming along to provide a better alternative. I love the Front Bar, Mick Malloy and particularly Sam Pang who is one of the best talents to hit mainstream TV in years. Having said that, the show thrives on its simplicity yet it's simplicity is its potential weakness. I reckon it needs to continue to evolve or it will become a little tired and predictable in a relatively short space of time. I think they recognise this by bringing in different faces like Judd and shortly Jonathan Brown to keep it fresh.
That, right there, is the problem.
Look at some of the strong personalities that used to appear as players that had no hesitation whatsoever standing up to Sam: Jason Dunstall, David Schwartz, Nick Riewoldt, Nathan Brown, Jonathan Brown, Billy Brownless (had some great stouches with Sam), Brendan Fevola. None of them ever took a backward step with Sam. The Ox even took a couple of forward ones.
Now the players know they're going to get shouted over or talked down to by Newman, and they'll get no backing if they push back. Why bother?
I don't know what the incentive is to give Sam such a long leash. The show has been failing for years but he's been the one constant that hasn't gone away. The problem is 9 don't have the balls to bone him.
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Originally Posted by
westdog54
That, right there, is the problem.
Look at some of the strong personalities that used to appear as players that had no hesitation whatsoever standing up to Sam: Jason Dunstall, David Schwartz, Nick Riewoldt, Nathan Brown, Jonathan Brown, Billy Brownless (had some great stouches with Sam), Brendan Fevola. None of them ever took a backward step with Sam. The Ox even took a couple of forward ones.
Now the players know they're going to get shouted over or talked down to by Newman, and they'll get no backing if they push back. Why bother?
I don't know what the incentive is to give Sam such a long leash. The show has been failing for years but he's been the one constant that hasn't gone away. The problem is 9 don't have the balls to bone him.
Newman must know where every body is buried and a few more besides. Otherwise you'd just dig all the bodies up and then bone him. Whatever dirt he has it must be good.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Newman must know where every body is buried and a few more besides. Otherwise you'd just dig all the bodies up and then bone him. Whatever dirt he has it must be good.
The absolute worst thing is, had Newman walked away from the show 10 years ago he would have done so with his head held high and his football and media legacy intact.
He's tarnished what was up until that point almost four decades of wonderful service to both.