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06-05-2024, 10:14 PM
#271
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Shut the forum down thanks Gary. This is the single best riposte ever posted on this site. We've peaked. No point continuing.
You've been replaced. All hail the new King.
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24-05-2024, 09:49 AM
#272
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
So half way through the season and no deal to announce.
If results go as expected this round, Tim’s compo would be Pick 8 and a his wanted large salary spent in other areas on other players.
Might the club be seriously thinking about letting him go? Or at least entertaining it as he’s still restricted.
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24-05-2024, 09:59 AM
#273
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
So half way through the season and no deal to announce.
If results go as expected this round, Tim’s compo would be Pick 8 and a his wanted large salary spent in other areas on other players.
Might the club be seriously thinking about letting him go? Or at least entertaining it as he’s still restricted.
I reckon English has put the brakes on.
Eagles form improving.
Dogs early form not so flash - Beveridge may or may not stay.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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24-05-2024, 10:03 AM
#274
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
azabob
I reckon English has put the brakes on.
Eagles form improving.
Dogs early form not so flash - Beveridge may or may not stay.
If that were the case, would we go harder or let it play out? He’s still restricted and we could push for a trade as well, or take compo.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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24-05-2024, 10:08 AM
#275
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
If that were the case, would we go harder or let it play out? He’s still restricted and we could push for a trade as well, or take compo.
I think we need to let it play out. The key for mine is not to overpay and accept who English is. It has taken me since 2020 until this season to accept who English is.
I do wonder what our longer term plans are for Sam Darcy. That may also play a huge part in it all.
He has that aggressive streak in his game which at his size, mobility and skill level is Max Gawn like.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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24-05-2024, 10:09 AM
#276
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Very happy to wait and see how this plays out later in the year. His form is holding up in recent weeks - he was good last night against a top tier AA calibre opponent.
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24-05-2024, 11:55 AM
#277
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Very happy to wait and see how this plays out later in the year. His form is holding up in recent weeks - he was good last night against a top tier AA calibre opponent.
Grundy couldn't keep up early. Had to get physical. Tim was good.
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24-05-2024, 12:38 PM
#278
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Grundy couldn't keep up early. Had to get physical. Tim was good.
Credit to Tim as well he didn't go off in the second half.
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24-05-2024, 05:34 PM
#279
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Grundy couldn't keep up early. Had to get physical. Tim was good.
Held up well to the physical stuff
Also -Tim had fewer Hitouts but more HTA
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30-05-2024, 10:21 AM
#280
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
azabob
I reckon English has put the brakes on.
Eagles form improving.
Dogs early form not so flash - Beveridge may or may not stay.
Yep. State media:
THE WESTERN Bulldogs are continuing negotiations on a new deal for ruckman Tim English, as the All-Australian takes time on his free agency decision.
As Inside Trading reported in April, the Dogs made a long-term offer to retain English, who has been keen to get through more of the season before locking in his call.
Discussions are continuing, with the Bulldogs having put forward multiple offers and options as part of talks in a sign the 26-year-old is more likely to stay at the kennel.
English is one of eight remaining restricted free agents in the competition, with 108 free agents across the AFL at the midway point of the season.
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30-05-2024, 10:34 AM
#281
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
The more I think on this the more I am changing my mind and wanting English to stay...
The game has moved to a transition game and away from a contested based game.
English biggest asset is his running and ability to lengthen the ground.
I think we need to secure him at around four years at $900K. That would be a having our cake and eating it too.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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30-05-2024, 10:44 AM
#282
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
azabob
The more I think on this the more I am changing my mind and wanting English to stay...
The game has moved to a transition game and away from a contested based game.
English biggest asset is his running and ability to lengthen the ground.
I think we need to secure him at around four years at $900K. That would be a having our cake and eating it too.
Thank you for agreeing with me.
English is the modern version of a ruckman. Gone are the days of tap, tap, tap and 5 disposals.
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30-05-2024, 10:46 AM
#283
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
azabob
The more I think on this the more I am changing my mind and wanting English to stay...
The game has moved to a transition game and away from a contested based game.
English biggest asset is his running and ability to lengthen the ground.
I think we need to secure him at around four years at $900K. That would be a having our cake and eating it too.
One frustration I have with this part of his game is, despite having good mobility and disposal for a ruckman, the vast majority of his touches are just so slow. It's mark, look, walk back, look again, wait, look again, and either a 25m chip or a bomb down the line.
Maybe I'm being harsh but I feel like he often stifles the transition rather than contribute to it.
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30-05-2024, 10:48 AM
#284
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
azabob
The more I think on this the more I am changing my mind and wanting English to stay...
The game has moved to a transition game and away from a contested based game.
English biggest asset is his running and ability to lengthen the ground.
I think we need to secure him at around four years at $900K. That would be a having our cake and eating it too.
To me it’s the price needed to keep him and if we desperately need the compo off him.
In a scenario where we don’t need the compo and the salary is not prohibitive to signing up others and sinking too much into a ruckman then I think many would keep him. It’s all about the details for me.
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30-05-2024, 10:48 AM
#285
Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?
Originally Posted by
azabob
The more I think on this the more I am changing my mind and wanting English to stay...
The game has moved to a transition game and away from a contested based game.
English biggest asset is his running and ability to lengthen the ground.
I think we need to secure him at around four years at $900K. That would be a having our cake and eating it too.
He will get a mill a year, i dont think 900 will get it done.
A mill now isn't a mill before the increase so I'm ok with it.
Problem is we really need to get this done! Lose English and Lobb would be shizen.