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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
Can Bar
Tough couple of days, the week is getting easier. Game day is approaching. 3-4 wins in a row and this feeling will be a distant memory. Time to get back on the horse.
My horse died in Round 23 2023.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
My horse died in Round 23 2023.
Hopefully you have bought a another?
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
Can Bar
Tough couple of days, the week is getting easier. Game day is approaching. 3-4 wins in a row and this feeling will be a distant memory. Time to get back on the horse.
Last year in rounds 4 to about 10 we defeated Fremantle, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton and GWS. The last two played finals. Since then things have been disastrous. Two of those teams have already defeated us. Last match Hawthorn had 30+% more scoring shots than the Dogs. The source of the problem must be staring us in the face. You can?t have that fall without a reason.
And it is not anything to do with Macrae and Dale. That has simply been a distraction. Look at what has worked on Sunday - Bont kicks to Williams, goal - Baker kicks to English, goal. Easy. These plays are despite the game plan, not part of it. And people are calling for two of those participants to be dropped. We need to play to all players strengths ( for a change).
Otherwise there is no horse just a carcass.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
Danjul
You can?t have that fall without a reason.
There would be a heap of reasons, one that is regularly overlooked is the opposition, Hawks played ok. The competition can be very even. The analysis that gets done in the lead up to games is huge. What is your strength this week is taken away the next. Clubs review games from multiple angles, pull apart every contest, leading and running patterns. Think we have to back the club in to find the solutions.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
Can Bar
There would be a heap of reasons, one that is regularly overlooked is the opposition, Hawks played ok. The competition can be very even. The analysis that gets done in the lead up to games is huge. What is your strength this week is taken away the next. Clubs review games from multiple angles, pull apart every contest, leading and running patterns. Think we have to back the club in to find the solutions.
You can also go over the top with micro managing opposition game plans . Plans change due to the opposition you play.
What works one week might not work the next.
We have a habit of losing to sides who have good players out as well.
Mitchell out smarted Bevo with game plan, only just but he did.
Bring back the biff
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Sorry this is a bit long but I thought I would have a look at our list and try and be subjective with the players as they currently stand.
I had 11 player get Automatic selection but 2 are on long term injury, a couple on the cusp if they produce a bit more and VDM is in there because he has traits if he could tidy things up.
The rest if someone was playing better in their position could be replaced. JJ drops down because his bread and butter is run and carry and he is just average this year.
20 players under 50 games with 5 of those 20 haven't played yet.
This is purely my opinion and other teams have the same sort of list but are the bit part players doing enough.
01 Adam Treloar - 239 games automatic if fit
02 Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - 51 games automatic if fit
03 Cody Weightman - 66 games automatic if fit
04 Marcus Bontempelli - 224 games automatic if fit
05 Jedd Busslinger - 0 games untried
06 Bailey Smith - 103 games injured
07 Rory Lobb - 163 games not a lock
08 Charli Clarke - 1 game too early
09 Ryley Sanders - 6 games shows promise
10 Sam Darcy - 14 games shows promise
11 Jack Macrae - 236 games not a lock
12 Harvey Gallagher - 8 games shows promise
13 Oskar Baker - 38 games not a lock
14 Rhylee West - 44 games on the cusp of being automatic
15 Taylor Duryea - 198 games not a lock
16 Jordan Croft - games untried
17 Nick Coffield - 54 games injured
18 James O'Donnell - 16 games shows promise
19 Liam Jones - 187 games automatic if fit
20 Ed Richards - 111 games automatic if fit
21 Tom Liberatore - 222 games injured
22 James Harmes - 156 games not a lock
23 Laitham Vandermeer - 52 games on the cusp of being automatic
24 Buku Khamis - 18 games not a lock
25 Caleb Poulter - 23 games not a lock
26 Dominic Bedendo - 2 games not a lock
27 Joel Freijah - 0 games untried
28 Anthony Scott - 57 games not a lock
29 Lachlan Bramble - 38 games not a lock
30 Lachlan McNeil - 43 games not a lock
31 Bailey Dale - 139 games automatic if fit
32 Arthur Jones - 13 games not a lock
33 Aaron Naughton - 131 games automatic if fit
34 Bailey Williams - 135 games not a lock
35 Caleb Daniel - 181 games not a lock
36 Luke Cleary - 5 games not a lock
37 Aiden O'Driscoll - 0 games untried
38 Riley Garcia - 22 games not a lock
39 Jason Johannisen - 195 games not a lock
40 Lachlan Smith - 0 games untried
42 Alex Keath - 104 games not a lock
43 Ryan Gardner - 53 games not a lock
44 Tim English - 116 games automatic if fit
Don't piss off old people
The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
JJ Williams west are locks cos they play every week if available, Daniel and Macrae aren?t locks by choice, would be in other sides.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
I think that’s it. Gave up 7%, the effective extra game in hand…
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Yeah I think we're done.
The injuries hurt, the way the fixture has been set up at this point of the year hurts and we have little room for error.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Yeah I think we're done.
The injuries hurt, the way the fixture has been set up at this point of the year hurts and we have little room for error.
Only question is what we give up for Sanders. It’s Pick 9 (after an Ashcroft bid). But could be higher.
If English leaves for compo and how bad Smith burns us.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
We pretty much needed to be as good as possible for the rest of the year to stand a chance of making finals. The only other chance of finals is to pretty much go perfect after the bye once we get back our forward line and some role players like Coffield and Harmes.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Only question is what we give up for Sanders. It’s Pick 9 (after an Ashcroft bid). But could be higher.
If English leaves for compo and how bad Smith burns us.
It's a shaky time for us.
He's just a kid but I'm getting concerned on what we gave up for Sanders. He'll get stronger and fitted, but there's a real inability in his game to take ground with his legs (never seems to get out of second gear). Perhaps he'll become an inside beast and be an accumulator but I'm not sure yet.
Key defender stocks are at retirement village age with Buss unsigned, uncertainty around English and Smith, no first pick this year....
Libba and Treloar can only fall from here.
Sounds doom and gloom, but I think it's obvious to see we have quite a bit to be concerned about.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
I don't think 24 ever started.
Been hard to watch since the get go.
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
It's a shaky time for us.
He's just a kid but I'm getting concerned on what we gave up for Sanders. He'll get stronger and fitted, but there's a real inability in his game to take ground with his legs (never seems to get out of second gear). Perhaps he'll become an inside beast and be an accumulator but I'm not sure yet.
Key defender stocks are at retirement village age with Buss unsigned, uncertainty around English and Smith, no first pick this year....
Libba and Treloar can only fall from here.
Sounds doom and gloom, but I think it's obvious to see we have quite a bit to be concerned about.
For sure, we need some list fixes immediately or we’ll burn through next year at least too.
Then do we fire sale Lobb, Daniel &/or Macrae who are shadows of themselves?
But we’ve signed everyone long term so, list spots are thin too…
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: Goodbye Season 2024
Sanders will be fine, I have no issues with the collateral used to secure him.
Some of the first seasons by recent top draftees have been unusually good, and many of them have been padded with favourable positioning (i.e. behind the ball).
If what we're doing with him pays off we'll have an extremely hardened midfielder who's had to take a few knocks early in order to get on the level.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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