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    Watching Ellie play in VFLW, you can see why she's one of the best in Australia.

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    How a national draft could shake up the AFLW competition

    With the AFLW draft likely to become national this year, there are many knock-on effects for clubs



    THE LIKELY move to a national AFLW draft at the end of the year has left some clubs scrambling to boost recruiting resources.

    In the past, the state-based draft meant clubs focused purely in their own backyards – which for the Queensland clubs, for example, often meant just players in their academies – but the potential shift to a fully national pool in just seven months' time is putting clubs under the pump.



    Closing the gap
    Most – if not all – clubs agree that a national pool is an appropriate step to take to boost equalisation across the competition and close the gap between the top and bottom sides.

    Inaugural teams Adelaide, Brisbane and Melbourne have long dominated the competition, North Melbourne has now also made the leap to the top tier, while fellow 2019 graduate Geelong is making positive strides.

    The bottom end of the competition – while improved – is still a cause for concern with the young West Australian talent pool having not been as deep in recent years and New South Wales well and truly in a development stage.

    Clubs pointed to the recently completed under-16 national championships, which was dominated by South Australia, winning its two matches against Western Australia and Vic Metro by a cumulative 158 points.



    Barring a full-blown rebuild, Adelaide and Port Adelaide would realistically only be drafting 4-6 of those top-age players in 2026, meaning many would miss out without a national draft.

    Clubs are required to draft two players, forcing sides to delist or trade at least two of their squad of 30. That can have a knock-on effect, with those players from stronger sides able to be recruited by weaker teams who are searching for a particular boost – Jess Hosking was let go by the Tigers, but added by the Eagles, who were after players in her age profile to help provide leadership and competitiveness for their young squad.

    The increased money on the horizon for tier four players – the payment category the vast majority of draftees will fall into – and 12-month contracts have opened the door to the move, with tier-four payments rising from $56,077 to $67,337 in 2025, $70,030 in 2026 and $72,373 at the end of the CBA in 2027.



    Small AFLW football departments
    AFLW football departments are much smaller than their men's counterparts, and while a slowly growing number have now appointed full-time list managers (some of whom also work across men's programs, such as supporting the Next Generation Academy), their own recruiting and scouting networks across the country have not yet been set up or are in their infancy.

    Recruiters are either part-time or casual employees, who work with a club’s list manager to firstly identify talented players, and then drill down on those who may better suit the team's needs (ie a key forward) or game-plan (strong endurance skills, speed, contest work).

    One club noted they were happy with the move to a national draft, but would prefer the mooted move to happen next year, as their soft cap budget has already been allocated ahead of the upcoming season.

    The soft cap essentially includes all program costs – such as staff (coaches, recruiters, physios, doctors, dieticians) wages, medical costs, equipment and the like – outside of player payments.



    Supporting player welfare
    Another club flagged the need for clubs to ensure they have enough welfare support in place before bringing in four or five 18-year-olds from other states, given the ongoing wellbeing needs of younger players new to the system, let alone moving across the country.

    Clubs work with players to help with their move, as well as the possible need to transfer universities or study providers, along with ongoing, general wellbeing support.

    Scouting out and surmising national talent at the top end of the draft is less of an issue for teams, but clubs who have better resourced their recruiting network will generally have an advantage in uncovering hidden gems on the other side of the country.

    Some clubs have said they're more than happy to go full-steam ahead to a national draft, having either read the tea leaves and already having contacts on the ground in other states, or preferring to do their talent scouting from recorded games ("online vision has never been better", claimed one recruiter), rather than needing to be there in person.



    The current quasi-national draft
    Players in last year’s draft were given the option to nominate for either the national pool or their home state. Previous full (not supplementary) drafts saw players nominate for one state only, which did not have to be their home state.

    Of the 51 players drafted last year (excluding the re-listings of Lucy Burke and Airlie Runnalls), 23 nominated their home state, and 28 nominated the national pool.

    Breaking down the 23 home-state players, 10 were drafted in the first round. Four of the 23 were tied to northern academies, including Sophie Peters, who was a first-rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotdog60 View Post
    Inaugural teams Adelaide, Brisbane and Melbourne have long dominated the competition, North Melbourne has now also made the leap to the top tier, while fellow 2019 graduate Geelong is making positive strides.
    It would have been nice to get mentioned in the Inaugural Teams bit and they could have mentioned that we got plundered the most with our more top tier players unlike Melbourne with expansion.
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    4th placed Footscray play at 3 o'clock livestreamed as usual on the AFL site. The AFLW players including Blackburn are not in the team this week so will be interesting how they go against 8th placed Collingwood at Vic Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOSE B ROMERO View Post
    4th placed Footscray play at 3 o'clock livestreamed as usual on the AFL site. The AFLW players including Blackburn are not in the team this week so will be interesting how they go against 8th placed Collingwood at Vic Park.
    FULL TIME | Mission accomplished. The Bulldogs secure their fourth consecutive win of the season! 🐶


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    FULL TIME | Mission accomplished. The Bulldogs secure their fourth consecutive win of the season! ��


    COL: 2. 2. 14
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    Revenge for all those horrible afternoons i spent at Vic park in the 80's. Take that Pies!

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    Haven’t we changed in the womens since the review, looking like a club and all in.
    Bring back the biff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    Haven’t we changed in the womens since the review, looking like a club and all in.
    I never understood why the aflw listed players weren't playing more regularly in the vflw. The seasons don't overlap at all.

    With a focus on youth and development in our list, I would almost want 50% of the list playing VFLW each week.

    Great to see us getting some wins after a lean few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    I never understood why the aflw listed players weren't playing more regularly in the vflw. The seasons don't overlap at all.

    With a focus on youth and development in our list, I would almost want 50% of the list playing VFLW each week.

    Great to see us getting some wins after a lean few years.
    What limitations are on AFLW listed playing in VFL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Joe View Post
    What limitations are on AFLW listed playing in VFL?
    As of this season there are no restrictions.

    There were restrictions in previous years, but we routinely had zero AFLW players playing.

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    I suppose the only restrictions now would work commitments if they have other careers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotdog60 View Post
    I suppose the only restrictions now would work commitments if they have other careers.
    The salary rise helped that .
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