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The Coon Dog
06-10-2011, 10:23 PM
The club have renamed some awards, which are now:

- The Doug Hawkins Medalist - Runner Up in the Best & Fairest.

- The Gary Dempsey Medalist - Third in the Best & Fairest.

- The Chris Grant Award - Best first year player.

- The Tony Liberatore Award - Most improved.

- The John Schultz Award - Most recognisable for their work in the community.

Remi Moses
07-10-2011, 01:48 AM
Nathan Brown Judas Award
Congratulations Ward( will be there to accept the award! How Wonderful!):mad:

LostDoggy
07-10-2011, 10:38 AM
Nathan Brown Judas Award
Congratulations Ward( will be there to accept the award! How Wonderful!):mad:
Like it !
Do you think we should strike retrospective medals for the past, who should have won it.

Throughandthrough
07-10-2011, 11:01 AM
Interesting that two people that have openly had "disagreements" with the club within the last 5 years now have awards named after them.

LostDoggy
07-10-2011, 11:06 AM
Perplexing.

bornadog
07-10-2011, 11:37 AM
Interesting that two people that have openly had "disagreements" with the club within the last 5 years now have awards named after them.

Two of our greats.

ledge
07-10-2011, 12:47 PM
Interesting that two people that have openly had "disagreements" with the club within the last 5 years now have awards named after them.

Because they care?

Nuggety Back Pocket
08-10-2011, 02:46 PM
The club have renamed some awards, which are now:

- The Doug Hawkins Medalist - Runner Up in the Best & Fairest.

- The Gary Dempsey Medalist - Third in the Best & Fairest.

- The Chris Grant Award - Best first year player.

- The Tony Liberatore Award - Most improved.

- The John Schultz Award - Most recognisable for their work in the community.

Interesting to note that only two of the five players mentioned above bothered to turn up to present their awards. These being Tony Liberatore and John Schultz. The Club deserves greater respect from it's past Champions.

bornadog
08-10-2011, 03:16 PM
Interesting to note that only two of the five players mentioned above bothered to turn up to present their awards. These being Tony Liberatore and John Schultz. The Club deserves greater respect from it's past Champions.

That is really disappointing.

Sockeye Salmon
08-10-2011, 08:03 PM
Interesting to note that only two of the five players mentioned above bothered to turn up to present their awards. These being Tony Liberatore and John Schultz. The Club deserves greater respect from it's past Champions.

It normally doesn't take too much for Hawk and Turtle to turn up so there must have been a good reason.

Doc26
08-10-2011, 08:26 PM
Interesting to note that only two of the five players mentioned above bothered to turn up to present their awards. These being Tony Liberatore and John Schultz. The Club deserves greater respect from it's past Champions.

Agree and it gets worse.

From 1970 to 2006 inclusive there were only 2 past B&F winners represented on the night, that's a span of 37 years. They were Peter Foster and Tony Liberatore. Go figure. In fact there were more B&F winners represented on the night that won in the 60s. They were John Schultz, Ray Walker and George Bisset.

And as for excuses. Fossie shows up to support the Club having tragically lost his sister in a house fire in the past week.

How's does that talk to a healthy Club culture ? :rolleyes:

Nuggety Back Pocket
09-10-2011, 11:40 AM
It normally doesn't take too much for Hawk and Turtle to turn up so there must have been a good reason.

Correction! Hawkins and Dempsey rarely attend this event, which is very sad when you think that all previous B&F's are invited. Refreshing to read Mark Stevens article today on BMcC's speech in "wanting to embrace past players".
What an insightful and refreshing approach!

Mantis
10-10-2011, 01:51 PM
Correction! Hawkins and Dempsey rarely attend this event, which is very sad when you think that all previous B&F's are invited. Refreshing to read Mark Stevens article today on BMcC's speech in "wanting to embrace past players".
What an insightful and refreshing approach!

Is it up to the clubs administration or the coach to embrace past players?

I would have thought the coach is there to coach and the President, CEO, etc... are there to ensure the club is run well and it's culture is upheld.

Nuggety Back Pocket
10-10-2011, 03:52 PM
Is it up to the clubs administration or the coach to embrace past players?

I would have thought the coach is there to coach and the President, CEO, etc... are there to ensure the club is run well and it's culture is upheld.

You are right on both fronts but the coach often sets the tone for a long ongoing relationship for former players to embrace the club. Perhaps the most outstanding example has been Tom Hafey in his regular catch ups with his former players at Richmond.My reading of BMcC's comments was to train up people to have a long time connectness with the Bulldogs. This has been a real strength of his experience at Geelong, where they have had a large number of support staff coming from a Cats background.

immortalmike
10-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Is it up to the clubs administration or the coach to embrace past players?

I would have thought the coach is there to coach and the President, CEO, etc... are there to ensure the club is run well and it's culture is upheld.

I agree but it wouldn't hurt if the coach is also very accommodating.

Bulldog Revolution
10-10-2011, 05:07 PM
Is it up to the clubs administration or the coach to embrace past players?

I would have thought the coach is there to coach and the President, CEO, etc... are there to ensure the club is run well and it's culture is upheld.

Every club goes through issues with its past players from time to time

I dont know that we have a great issue with embracing the past - lots of our former champions are beloved figures in the clubs history

Perhaps McCartney commented on it, aware that he is an outsider, and doesn't want to be seen to be ostracising past players, and instead is keen to embrace it.

Or maybe its something that Garlick believes we can do better than we are currently