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BulldogBelle
12-05-2012, 10:42 PM
R 7 - Western Bulldogs vs North Melbourne

There are two awards that you can vote on, once the game is completed.

Voting closes each Tuesday at 8.00pm.

The first one is for the Joe Marmo Medal for the best players on the ground.

There are 4 votes allocated and it's a 4 for the best and of course 3, 2 and 1.

and

The second award is for the Ron James Medal for the best 2 pups on the ground.

2 Votes allocated - 2 being for the best pup and 1 for the runner-up
Remember the cut off age for a pup is 22 as at the 1st of January, 2012.

Pups available for selection –

Ace Cordy, Luke Dahlhaus, Tom Hill, Andew Hooper, Christian Howard, Liam Jones, Thomas Liberatore, Matthew Panos, Daniel Pearce, Fletcher Roberts, Jordan Roughead, Clay Smith, Michael Talia, Jason Tutt, Mitchell Wallis.

Rookie's – Tom Campbell, Alex Greenwood, Jason Johannisen, Lin Jong, Jack Redpath.
* Mark Austin (23yo – if elevated he’s not eligible for pup selection due to pup cut-off age)

Need to know more - The history of the WOOF Player Awards (http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?t=10461)

Maddog37
13-05-2012, 04:59 PM
4 Boyd
3 griffin
2 Wallis
1 Sherman

2 Wallis
1 Libba

LostDoggy
13-05-2012, 05:03 PM
4 - Griffen
3 - Lake (his back)
2 - Boyd
1 - Wallis


2 - Wallis
1 - Libba

Twodogs
13-05-2012, 05:13 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Austin


2. Wallis
1. Cordy

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
13-05-2012, 05:17 PM
4 - Griffen
3 - Lake (his back)
2 - Boyd
1 - Wallis


2 - Wallis
1 - Libba

What's wrong with Lake's back?

GVGjr
13-05-2012, 05:18 PM
What's wrong with Lake's back?

I think it should read "He's back"

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
13-05-2012, 05:20 PM
Marmo

4. Griffen
3. Boyd
2. Lake
1. Dickson

James

2. Wallis
1. Libba

angelopetraglia
13-05-2012, 05:50 PM
Marmo

4. Boyd
3. Griffen
2. Dickson
1. Lake

James

2. Wallis
1. Libba

bornadog
13-05-2012, 05:58 PM
4. Griffen - what Champ

3. Lake - the best reader of the ball in flight in the AFL

2. Boyd

1. Wallis - he is gunna be good this kid


2. Wallis
1. Libba

Dog54
13-05-2012, 06:03 PM
4 Boyd
3 griffin
2 Lake
1 Sherman

Dickson stiff!


2 Wallis
1 Libby

Cordy fantastic with some contested marking and is starting to feel at home in the senior team!

Bumper Bulldogs
13-05-2012, 06:07 PM
4. Griffen - what Champ

3. Lake - the best reader of the ball in flight in the AFL

2. Wallis - he is gunna be good this kid

1. Dickson - for his four goals.

2. Wallis
1. Libba


Sorry can't give Boyd a vote at 50% Disposal Efficiency. That means of the 44 disposals only 22 hit a target.

Same for me as above, we really need to get this up I now think that he is worse than Cross.

azabob
13-05-2012, 06:16 PM
4. Griffen - Didn't appear to raise a sweat today. Just keeps running and running and running
3. Picken - Harvey normally gives us major headaches.
2. Lake - Petrie normally gives us major headaches.
1. Dickson - Talk about taking the most of your opportunities.

Hotdog60
13-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Marmo

4. Griffen
3. Boyd
2. Lake
1. Dickson

I'd like to fit Wilbur in but just misses out.

James

2. Wallis
1. Libba

The Bulldogs Bite
13-05-2012, 06:20 PM
4. Griffen - Absolute superstar.
3. Lake - See above, great to see him back to his best. Mauled Petrie today.
2. Wallis - 28 disposals and was seriously influential. He's made me eat my words and I love it!
1. Austin - Terrific performance and I wanted to give my recognition of it.

Apologies to Dickson, Minson.


2. Wallis
1. Cordy

Apologies to Libba.

1eyedog
13-05-2012, 06:27 PM
Lake 4
Griffen 3
Boyd 2
Wallis 1

angelopetraglia
13-05-2012, 06:28 PM
Sorry can't give Boyd a vote at 50% Disposal Efficiency. That means of the 44 disposals only 22 hit a target.

Agree, some of his disposals were sloppy, but still clearly in our best 4 on the ground.

Boyd had the same disposals hit the target as Griffen (31 touches at 74% = 22).

Boyd had 10 clearances, the next best on the ground was Libba with 6. He had 19 contested disposals, the best for North was 11 (Scott Thompson). He did so much work under enormous pressure in close. Had an enormous influence on the game. BOG for me.

Champion Data do a great job these days with Supercoach points. It takes into consideration many factors including disposal efficiency and is a pretty good indicator of ones influence on the game. They had Boyd with 137 and Griff with 123.

Ghost Dog
13-05-2012, 06:44 PM
Based purely on perception of what I saw at the game

4. Griffen
3. Minson - gave us first use of the ball time and time again
2. Cross - An important piston in the engine room but had a great day outside of the pack
1. Lake - the Lynchpin of our back 6. Can anyone believe people were talking about a shift to another club last year?

2. Dahlhaus - Not a great day stats wise but harried all day
1. Mitch - Smart hands lad.

SlimPickens
13-05-2012, 06:55 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Wallis
1. Sherman

Honorable mention Austin, Dickson and Boyd

2.Wallis
1.Libba

Geez these boys get in!!

LostDoggy
13-05-2012, 06:56 PM
2. Dahlhaus - Not a great day stats wise but harried all day
1. Mitch - Smart hands lad.

What was is? His hair? Man love? Of the rookie both Libba and Wallis were easily better than him.

G-Mo77
13-05-2012, 07:00 PM
What was is? His hair? Man love? Of the rookie both Libba and Wallis were easily better than him.

My wife wants me to get him into the votes but just can't squeeze him in.

4. Lake
3. Griffen
2. Boyd
1. Cross

Too many apologies to list.

2. Wallis
1. Libba

Ghost Dog
13-05-2012, 07:00 PM
What was is? His hair? Man love? Of the rookie both Libba and Wallis were easily better than him.

It's hard to pick votes. I just think he puts so much pressure on opponents. He might not get a stat for that, but putting pressure on the opponent forces them to kick in a hurry. Love the pressure and leg speed he brings. Libba was fantastic and you could see him bent over on the mark, just stuffed. Giving us his all. I was at the North End, so very hard to see what went on in close down the other end. Wally, just so smart with his hands. As I said, based on what I could see from my end, but very hard to split them.

Mantis
13-05-2012, 07:14 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Sherman

AndrewP6
13-05-2012, 07:29 PM
4 Griff - champ.
3 Lake - welcome back Briza
2 Dicko - we need a bloke who can convert opportunities. He fits this bill.
1 Boyd - Would've had him higher, but for the poor disposals. Was everywhere though.

Apologies to Sherm, Gia, Austin, Crossy

2 Libba
1 Wallis

LostDoggy
13-05-2012, 09:01 PM
4. Boyd
3. Griffen
2. Dickson
1. Lake

2. Wallis
1. Libba

angelopetraglia
13-05-2012, 09:23 PM
What was is? His hair? Man love? Of the rookie both Libba and Wallis were easily better than him.

Only Boyd had more contested possessions than Dalhaus (16) on the ground today. Wins a lot of his own footy which is so valuable.

always right
13-05-2012, 09:32 PM
4. Griff
3. Lake
2. Boyd (stuff disposal efficiency stats...I don't need them to tell me he had a huge influence on the game)
1. Minson

2. Wallis
1. Libba

LostDoggy
13-05-2012, 09:33 PM
4. Griffen
3. Boyd
2. Minson
1. Dahlhaus

LostDoggy
13-05-2012, 09:39 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Cross

Griffen, all class. Absolute A-grader on a consistent basis thesedays. Lakey is back! Hopefully he can play this well against lesser opponents more regularly. Boyd, I thought we had about 3 of him today. Everywhere. If he learns how to kick he could be the best midfielder in the league. Crossy was an outside choice, but I thought his courage and disposal was top class today. Continues to prove doubters wrong.

2. Wallis.
1. Dahlhaus.

Wallis is becoming better each week. Going to be 200+ gamer for us. Libba was unlucky not to sneak in but I thought Dahl's ball use and hunger for the contest was second to none. Sign of a great game when the votes are a toss up between just about every player.

GVGjr
13-05-2012, 09:56 PM
Marmo
4 - Griffen
3 - Lake
2 - Dickson
1 - Boyd

James
2 - Wallis
1 - Liberatore

mjp
13-05-2012, 09:57 PM
Sorry can't give Boyd a vote at 50% Disposal Efficiency. That means of the 44 disposals only 22 hit a target.

OK. 22 possessions. 10 Clearances. 7 Tackles. 1 Goal.

Still an awesome statistical game since that is what you are measuring.

Add in whatever intangible you like that describes the benefit of the teams captain sticking his head over the footy 100 times each week and running further and faster than any other player on the field.

Not in our best 4?

westbulldog
13-05-2012, 10:01 PM
4. Matt Boyd - great captain's performance
3. Ryan Griffin - must have a few brownlow votes by now
2. Will Minson - dominated the ruck all day
1. Liam Picken - didn't just apply the glove to Harvey, applied the blowtorch

Hard to leave out many others including Brian Lake, Tory Dickson and Daniel Cross and good signs from Ayce Cordy and Mark Austin.

2. Libba
1. Wallis

Go_Dogs
13-05-2012, 10:04 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Dickson

2. Wallis
1. Liberatore

Happy Days
13-05-2012, 10:17 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Dickson

2. Wallis
1. Liberatore

Same for me.

Remi Moses
13-05-2012, 10:35 PM
4) Lake( great game against a guy who kills us)
3)Griff( is our best player)
2) wallis( looks comfortable at the level)
1) Picken( great job on that diving little you know what)

2) Wallis
1) Cordy ( photo finish with Libba)

I know it sounds old and corny, but that was a team effort

jazzadogs
13-05-2012, 10:40 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Wallis
1. Boyd

2. Wallis
1. Cordy

Rocco Jones
13-05-2012, 10:58 PM
4- Griff
3- Lake
2- Dickson
1- Boyd

I agree with mjp's call on Boyd.

44 @ 50% >>> 28 @ 75%

Efficiency as a stat in isolation is a bit misleading too IMO. You can have great efficiency if you kick sidewards or backwards all game. Don't get me wrong, Boydy does butcher and it but it doesn't take him from elite to average. It takes him from elite to whatever the rung just beneath it is.

comrade
13-05-2012, 11:01 PM
4. Griff
3. Boyd
2. Lake
1. Cross

2. Wallis
1. Libba

bornadog
13-05-2012, 11:17 PM
OK. 22 possessions. 10 Clearances. 7 Tackles. 1 Goal.

Still an awesome statistical game since that is what you are measuring.

Add in whatever intangible you like that describes the benefit of the teams captain sticking his head over the footy 100 times each week and running further and faster than any other player on the field.

Not in our best 4?

Yeah probably harsh on him. I do love Boyd, especially his hardness and commitment at the ball. As others have said, needs to play within his limitations, which means less kicks and more handballs. Frustrating to see those kicks go out of bounds, or just slammed on the foot straight to an opposition player.

Rocco Jones
13-05-2012, 11:21 PM
Yeah probably harsh on him. I do love Boyd, especially his hardness and commitment at the ball. As others have said, needs to play within his limitations, which means less kicks and more handballs. Frustrating to see those kicks go out of bounds, or just slammed on the foot straight to an opposition player.

I am like that with Boyd too, think we all are! I definitely get what you mean, it's just easy to over correct and as you say, be too harsh.

Thing about Boydy is he works so hard for his touches. I tolerate a lot more if you are the one actually earning them in the first place. He is like a billionaire who wastes a lof of money. At the end of the he is still well ahead of average!

Greystache
13-05-2012, 11:48 PM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Wallis
1. Dickson

2. Wallis
1. Cordy

Sedat
14-05-2012, 02:48 AM
Marmo:

4. Griffen
3. Boyd
2. Cross
1. Lake

James:

2. Wallis
1. Liberatore

dadsgirl16
14-05-2012, 10:08 AM
4.Griff
3.Boyd
2.Lake
1.Dickson

2.Wallis
1.Cordy

Ozza
14-05-2012, 10:17 AM
4. Griffen - outstanding (particularly the first half).
3. Lake - shut down Petrie (who usually kills us) and had a huge influence with intercept marks.
2. Wallis - tremendous game from him, offensive and defensive - and had the mettle to kick an important set shot goal.
1. Boyd - Had double the amount of ball as Swallow. Was everywhere. Sets the example for hunger.

Crossy is stiff - he was great, much less of the ball this week but more important. Veszpremi, Sherman and Dickson also unlucky to miss votes.

RJ:
2. Wallis
1. Cordy.

chef
14-05-2012, 11:04 AM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Cross
1. Dickson

LostDoggy
14-05-2012, 11:05 AM
4) Griffen
3) Boyd
2) Lake
1) Cross

2) Wallis
1) Libba

LostDoggy
14-05-2012, 11:42 AM
4 Griffen
3 Lake
2 Boyd
1 Cross

2 Wallis
1 Cordy

Bulldog4life
14-05-2012, 12:50 PM
Marmo

4. Griff
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Dickson

James

2. Wallis
1. Cordy

BulldogBelle
15-05-2012, 12:04 AM
** I will tally up the votes on Wednesday night this week***

Marmo
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Boyd
1. Cross

James
2. Wallis
1. Liberatore

EasternWest
15-05-2012, 12:45 AM
Just finished watching the game.

Griffen - It was a tossup between Boyd and Griffen for me. Thought Griffen was more damaging, and also got smashed a handful of times and just kept getting up. God he's a good player.
Boyd - Had a few outright poor kicks that rightly were criticised, but otherwise his stats were effected by the amount of contested ball he had to clear in a hurry. The right choice for Captain IMO.
Picken - Made Harvey his bitch again. Focusses on his job like no other. Rate him highly.
Cross - In the time I've been seriously following footy, I'm not sure I've seen a braver player in our colours. Chris Grant? West? Dunno, but Cross has no regard for his wellbeing, and gives so much for our team that I couldn't not include him.

Wallis - Terrific all day. Great hands and super attack on the opposition.
Liberatore - See above, just shaded by Mitch.

Scraggers
15-05-2012, 01:14 AM
4. Griffen
3. Lake
2. Sherman
1. Cross

KT31
15-05-2012, 09:45 AM
Marmo:

4. Griffen
3. Boyd
2. Cross
1. Lake

James:

2. Wallis
1. Cordy

Ghost Dog
15-05-2012, 09:56 AM
Just finished watching the game.

Griffen - It was a tossup between Boyd and Griffen for me. Thought Griffen was more damaging, and also got smashed a handful of times and just kept getting up. God he's a good player.
Boyd - Had a few outright poor kicks that rightly were criticised, but otherwise his stats were effected by the amount of contested ball he had to clear in a hurry. The right choice for Captain IMO.
Picken - Made Harvey his bitch again. Focusses on his job like no other. Rate him highly.
Cross - In the time I've been seriously following footy, I'm not sure I've seen a braver player in our colours. Chris Grant? West? Dunno, but Cross has no regard for his wellbeing, and gives so much for our team that I couldn't not include him.

Wallis - Terrific all day. Great hands and super attack on the opposition.
Liberatore - See above, just shaded by Mitch.

I don't get it. I DON'T get it. How is it, that Cross is not injured all the time? Or at least coming off from the Blood rule? Astounds me.

EasternWest
15-05-2012, 10:03 AM
I don't get it. I DON'T get it. How is it, that Cross is not injured all the time?
When I was playing footy, a friend of mine said once " If you go in with intent, you don't get hurt as often. But if you hesitate, and don't commit, that's when you get injured". Strange logic but perhaps it is true.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but the places he puts himself yet comes out unhurt give some credence to your friend.

Cross' courage is ridiculous. It was actually good to hear the commentators commend him for it.

choconmientay
16-05-2012, 08:12 AM
Watched the replay on AFL website.

4.Griff
3.Lake
2.Boyd
1.Dickson

2.Wallis
1.Cordy

Twodogs
16-05-2012, 11:16 AM
Cross - In the time I've been seriously following footy, I'm not sure I've seen a braver player in our colours. Chris Grant? West? Dunno, but Cross has no regard for his wellbeing, and gives so much for our team that I couldn't not include him.



It's a good question. Scott West was pretty brave. Steve Wallis and Terry Wallace got knocked senseless more times than I can remember too. All three never hesitated to put themselves in danger to win the ball and Crossy is right up there with them.

1eyedog
16-05-2012, 11:27 AM
It's a good question. Scott West was pretty brave. Steve Wallis and Terry Wallace got knocked senseless more times than I can remember too. All three never hesitated to put themselves in danger to win the ball and Crossy is right up there with them.

Liberatore Snr, nowhere he would not go and nothing he would not do. Courageous actions were a state of mind not something he did a few times a game.

Scott Wynd was also very brave going back into the hole.

Agreed with Wally, probably the most courageous of your list with the other two not far behind.

Twodogs
16-05-2012, 11:59 AM
Liberatore Snr, nowhere he would not go and nothing he would not do. Courageous actions were a state of mind not something he did a few times a game.

Scott Wynd was also very brave going back into the hole.

Agreed with Wally, probably the most courageous of your list with the other two not far behind.


Cant believe I overlooked Libba! Oh god yes, the most courageous player, bar none. My beautiful 10 year old daughter's middle name is Liberatore. She loves watching Tom.

BulldogBelle
16-05-2012, 04:51 PM
Voting is now closed.