Scarlett and Mooney get down [Archive] - Whitten Oval Online Forum

Pedro Sanchez

15-11-2012, 02:13 AM

Two handy part time coach appointments... Fair effort to get both Cam Mooney and Matty Scarlett to the club. Hopefully they can have an impact on our guys and give them some much needed confidence to get stuck in.

I think it can only be a positive to get such stars of the game from such a successful club. B-Mac is doing all the right things - just needs to string some decent wins together in season 2013, draft some budding guns later this month and we'll be away.

Dry Rot

15-11-2012, 02:15 AM

Link? Sauce?

Eastdog

15-11-2012, 02:30 AM

If true then they are very good appointments. Our team will learn a lot from them as they are both experienced premiership players.

Dry Rot

15-11-2012, 02:34 AM

If true then they are very good appointments. Our team will learn a lot from them as they are both experienced premiership players.

Agreed. Two of my favourite non-dog players.

A game from each of them is etched in mind, when the Cats were crap but each (in different games) really stood up.

jasopan

15-11-2012, 02:46 AM

Sauce (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/from-cats-to-dogs-20121114-29cqn.html)

Dry Rot

15-11-2012, 03:49 AM

Sauce (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/from-cats-to-dogs-20121114-29cqn.html)

Thanks.

hujsh

15-11-2012, 06:52 AM

Sauce (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/from-cats-to-dogs-20121114-29cqn.html)

Classic spelling error.:)

GVGjr

15-11-2012, 07:20 AM

azabob

15-11-2012, 07:37 AM

Wow.

Kudos to McCartney.

He knows what he wants and he is going out and getting it.

Congrats to the board and whoever has continued to fund the footy department for 2013 and beyond. At least we are using Eades wage rather than just banking it.

Good stuff dogs.

chef

15-11-2012, 07:38 AM

Nice.

GVGjr

15-11-2012, 08:06 AM

Congrats to the board and whoever has continued to fund the footy department for 2013 and beyond. At least we are using Eades wage rather than just banking it.

Good stuff dogs.

I'm not sure 'Eades wage' comment rings true. I'm sure Eade would have loved to have the resources the club is now supporting McCartney with.

azabob

15-11-2012, 08:16 AM

I'm not sure 'Eades wage' comment rings true. I'm sure Eade would have loved to have the resources the club is now supporting McCartney with.

What I mean by that is Eade would be on a lot more than McCartney and rather than banking Eade's wage they are still actively using it, rather than put it to the bottom line.

No doubt Eade would have loved more resources, who knows what might have been if he had them.

My comment wasn't meant to be a dig at Eade at all.

Bulldog Revolution

15-11-2012, 08:55 AM

Terrific appointments by the club. We are really starting to some structure behind McCartney and I certainly see this as a positive. If Scarlett can improve Roughead as a defender then that is a huge win for us.

Yes, we went with a bare bones coaching staff in 2012, and we've added some numbers with Hansen, and upgrading Smith, and now the addition of two valuable PT resources.

I think the players will enjoy working with both Mooney and Scarlett

Its hard to imagine that Talia, Markovic, Roughie, Austin, Roberts, Wood, Pearce etc would not benefit from having Scarlett watching them play and offering them some feedback. The impression most get is that Scarlett is not a man who wastes his words, but when he speaks you'd suspect the defenders would listen.

Jones, Grant, Redpath, Cordy etc now have two former CHF of considerable experience to offer feedback.

Mantis

15-11-2012, 09:05 AM

Congrats to the board and whoever has continued to fund the footy department for 2013 and beyond. At least we are using Eades wage rather than just banking it.

The new president?

ledge

15-11-2012, 09:23 AM

The new president?

And Smorgon plus a few others

The Underdog

15-11-2012, 09:28 AM

It speaks volumes also for the respect these 2 guys have for McCartney. Good get by the club, particularly Scarlett. Good to see Bubba move up too.

LostDoggy

15-11-2012, 09:28 AM

That announcement has a wow-factor.

Takes me a lot to be excited about specialist coaches, look what we've managed to grab over the last week - 3 Premiership Players including arguably the best full back of the past decade.

Future looks bright out in the west.

Maddog37

15-11-2012, 09:37 AM

Nice to read that bit about Morris too.

Ghost Dog

15-11-2012, 09:56 AM

Wow. Far out. Draft Scarlet. Make him put the boots on.
When a few of us discussed getting more premiership experience in the box yesterday, was exactly the sort of move had in mind. Blue chip coaches, Blue chip players involved with the club.
Well done!!!!

Only ONE downside ( Overall, I am wrapped so not being negative! ) but like it says, only one day a week, so hoping they work really hard when they come!

But, great news to wake up to. Scarlet in a Bulldogs top....LOVE IT!

But best is all....put your gloves back on folks....He's back.

whythelongface

15-11-2012, 10:08 AM

Agree with the above sentiments. Fantastic to have Scarlett and Mooney on board. Our younger guys will learn a hell of a lot from both of them. Kudos to McCartney and the club for seeking the assistance from some experienced and seasoned finals performers in not only these guys but also the appointments of Hansen and Smith.

The Pie Man

15-11-2012, 10:18 AM

It speaks volumes also for the respect these 2 guys have for McCartney. Good get by the club, particularly Scarlett. Good to see Bubba move up too.

BMac was one of the few people singled out in Scarlett's retirement statement.

I'm also pretty excited by this news - Scarlett strikes me as....brutally honest....which for some will be a very good thing.

bornadog

15-11-2012, 10:27 AM

The new president?

The AFL has tipped in more funds for the footy departments of several clubs, but perhaps extra from Gordon.

We have ramped up the footy department with extra coaches and extra fitness staff.

Doc26

15-11-2012, 10:53 AM

Obviously early days in the coaching careers of these two but would seem a win win, permitting them to put their toe in the water in a coaching capacity. For us, Scarlett and Mooney should bring immense insight to our young list in how to set themselves up and in particular in how to play key defensive and offensive roles whilst bringing a Team first mentality which both appeared to pride themselves on. Further, it should help to bring further support and credibility to Brendan and his Team's agenda as they look to build the Club up.

Very much looking forward to this year's National and PreSeason Drafts now to see the path we take.

Mantis

15-11-2012, 11:09 AM

The AFL has tipped in more funds for the footy departments of several clubs, but perhaps extra from Gordon.

We have ramped up the footy department with extra coaches and extra fitness staff.

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.

kruder

15-11-2012, 11:14 AM

One of the better news pieces to come out of the dogs in the last few years. Even though its one day a week to have that calibre of player and I think in particular Moons has proven himself in the media this year to have a really good handle on the modern game and he really speaks with passion which I like.

No offense to smith who is a great clubman and love his passion for the dogs but when he commentated on Fox he was poor to say the least and I'm sure to have Scarlett to help him out with the defense will help his/players development no end.

kruder

15-11-2012, 11:17 AM

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.

I did read somewhere that he will be putting his own money in and the footy department was is main focus area. I'm pretty sure it was his first press conference.

Ghost Dog

15-11-2012, 11:18 AM

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.

Peter Gordon is an out and out Hero of the club. Bow to the man.

bornadog

15-11-2012, 11:24 AM

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.

Thanks for the update Mantis. Wherever its coming from, its needed.

ledge

15-11-2012, 11:39 AM

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.

It came straight from the new presidents mouth about Smorgon amongst others

Cyberdoggie

15-11-2012, 12:17 PM

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.

Perhaps that was a big factor in why the changing of the guard happened at that particular time? (ie earlier than expected).

LostDoggy

15-11-2012, 12:17 PM

Great appointments, I must say i always thought Mooney was a bit of an empty head, but I also admit that his special comments on SEN this year have made me change my attitude.

I think it speaks volumes about how B Mac is regarded by players who had long term contact with him. I dont care that its only 1 day a week, if they like it and are successful, there is no reason that cant grow to a full blown assistants role. Matty Scarlett is also playing next season in the Geelong Footy League at his old club of South Barwon, so it is good to see he is giving back to the game after finishing his career at the highest level.

The other positive is more exposure for our sponsors. Having 2 recently retired premiership players wearing the clubs apparel with the sponsors name prominent is a good thing. With our draw & results sponsorship may be more difficult to attract in future, so any additional exposure is great.

Mofra

15-11-2012, 01:03 PM

I'm also pretty excited by this news - Scarlett strikes me as....brutally honest....which for some will be a very good thing.
Absolutely - I'm hearing brutal honesty may have upset a player or two at the club last year but will be the norm for us from now on.

Tough on and off the field.

BulldogBelle

15-11-2012, 01:06 PM

This is fantastic! Boy are we making strides.

At this rate i'm not sure whether i'll be renewing my Bulldogs or Geelong membership!

Bulldog4life

15-11-2012, 01:08 PM

Great news. The winning culture that they will bring to the Club can't be underestimated.

Cyberdoggie

15-11-2012, 02:03 PM

http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images_bulldogs/Mooney_Scarlett_246c.jpg

Looks good with a little red white and blue on him.

Cyberdoggie

15-11-2012, 02:05 PM

http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/Mooney_Web.jpg

Looks like they are posing for a menswear catalogue.

DragzLS1

15-11-2012, 02:24 PM

haha I am pumped about this! Will be very good to have some experienced players around the club with premiership experience. We lost Lake but got Scarlett to help out with teh defence (even though it is only coaching them). Mooney will be great for Jones and Cordy, look what he done with Hawkins who is now considered 1 of the best big forwards in teh comp.

Well done am very impressed

Twodogs

15-11-2012, 02:36 PM

I'm also pretty excited by this news - Scarlett strikes me as....brutally honest....which for some will be a very good thing.

That kind of honesty is exactly what we need. When we all focus on one club it's easy to accept shortcomings in players as just being the way they are. They are laconic, or their shortcomings are so glaring that we've just come to ovelook them in our assessment of their value. Somone coming in from a successful culture and casting a critical eye over the people and structures we have can only be a good thing.

The other positive is more exposure for our sponsors. Having 2 recently retired premiership players wearing the clubs apparel with the sponsors name prominent is a good thing. With our draw & results sponsorship may be more difficult to attract in future, so any additional exposure is great.

Yep. Having guys like that in our sponsors gear is a great get from a markerting POV.

Sedat

15-11-2012, 04:23 PM

I'm not hearing perhaps... I'm hearing he and one other backer tipped in big money to be used by the footy dept.

And as someone else alluded too it wasn't our outgoing Prez.
Absolutely fantastic from our new president if true - goes to show how much we were treading water in the last few years off the pitch. In a game of inches, a little extra footy dept spending in 2008-2010 might well have made the difference to us winning a premiership - we really didn't do a hell of a lot wrong in that 3 year stretch (running out of steam late in 2010 notwithstanding) aside from botch our 1st round draft picks from 2000-2002 to get that elusive flag.

BMac can have absolutely no complaints whatsoever about the level of support he is getting from the club in terms of footy dept expenditure - fingers crossed that support leads to a successful outcome in 3-5 years' time.

Nuggety Back Pocket

15-11-2012, 04:35 PM

Cyberdoggie

15-11-2012, 05:56 PM

If Mooney can turn Jones and Cordy into a Hawkins he would be a miracle worker. Perhaps akin to Jesus turning the water into wine.

Unfortunately i'm an athiest. :(

Remi Moses

15-11-2012, 05:59 PM

Great appointments. Great to see some spending in crucial areas.
Very nervous about this draft.:o

LongWait

15-11-2012, 07:59 PM

Great appointments. Great to see some spending in crucial areas.
Very nervous about this draft.:o

Seems it would be hard for us to muck it up though. I'm no expert, but it appears there will be some pretty good prospects available for us to chose from at 5, 6 and 22.

Love the club's commitment to improve our footy department resources. Scarlett and Mooney will be very good for us.

Eastdog

15-11-2012, 08:05 PM

Great appointments. Great to see some spending in crucial areas.
Very nervous about this draft.:o

It's very good to see that this is happening and that we are making some good choices hopefully for future success but as we know there is a long way to go. Like you said Remi I hope the draft goes well for us.

Mantis

15-11-2012, 09:16 PM

dog town

15-11-2012, 09:38 PM

I have absolutely no idea if Mooney can coach but I loved him as a special comments man this year. Very good head on his shoulders and understands footy culture and what makes a group tick.

I believe he is playing some games in the WRFL this season.

The Bulldogs Bite

15-11-2012, 09:50 PM

Great appointments. Very impressed by Mooney's footy brain on radio and the feedback on Scarlett is that whilst he's relatively quiet, his ability to convey his knowledge to team mates is outstanding.

Hopefully they both do well, enjoy it, and are upgraded to full time positions. I would hate to see us 'develop' these two and then lose them to other clubs, as it seems to happen regularly (ie. Cordy).

Along with Hansen, three very impressive coaching recruitments.

azabob

15-11-2012, 10:12 PM

Besides being a team-mate what part has Mooney played in Tom's development?

Mooney worked extremely closely with Hawkins on and off the field in Mooneys last few years. It is fair to say he played a really big part.

firstdogonthemoon

16-11-2012, 10:15 AM

this makes me happy - not a lot makes me happy but this does

BornInDroopSt'54

16-11-2012, 01:06 PM

this makes me happy - not a lot makes me happy but this does

Me too but whist others have expressed anxiety about D day next week, it is bound to be S day, Salvation Day for we supporters. We will get some talent and the nucleus of a very good team.
Welcome Scarlett and Mooney. Hopefully you will add to the greatness of the club, as others have contributed before you. Ted Whitten, Charlie Sutton, Georgie Bissett, Royce Hart, Chris Grant, Doug Hawkins, Simon Beasley.......
Scarlett and Mooney walk in the shadows of these giants and continue the quest for the Grail.

bulldogtragic

12-09-2013, 04:15 PM

Twitter says Matty Scarlett told KRock both he and Cam Mooney are increasing to 2 days a week each next year as coaches for the WBFC.

Good. :)

LostDoggy

12-09-2013, 04:23 PM

That tells me that the club is happy with them and that they see the WBFC as a worthwhile and exciting place to be.

bornadog

12-09-2013, 04:36 PM

Great News

KT31

12-09-2013, 04:46 PM

Excellent news.

1eyedog

12-09-2013, 05:04 PM

It tells me that Macca wants to ramp up the education of our KPP.

Eastdog

12-09-2013, 05:11 PM

Really good to hear.

Bulldog4life

12-09-2013, 05:20 PM

Great news.

Greystache

12-09-2013, 05:20 PM

Excellent news all round

The Bulldogs Bite

12-09-2013, 05:49 PM

Fantastic news!

Go_Dogs

12-09-2013, 09:26 PM

Great to read, thanks.

Where_only_dogs_tread

12-09-2013, 11:25 PM

Great players don't always necessarily make great coaches, but I think this is an exception to the rule. Hopefully the club will gradually increase their workload over next season, and eventually get them in more permanent roles from 2015 onwards.

LostDoggy

19-09-2013, 09:42 AM

bulldogtragic

19-09-2013, 10:01 AM

There's something about Jordy:

Scarlett on SEN this morning. Seriously, i can't recall an interview he's done since being in an assistant role where he hasn't slipped in a positve comment about Roughy and his future development.

This morning he mentioned that he didn't know whether his future lay down back or up front.
You could take that two ways. Initially I thought he said months ago he was a 200 game great FB. Now he's not sure. It not like when he's gone forward this year he's been Jeremy Cameron like.

A little confused actually.

Cyberdoggie

19-09-2013, 11:01 AM

You could take that two ways. Initially I thought he said months ago he was a 200 game great FB. Now he's not sure. It not like when he's gone forward this year he's been Jeremy Cameron like.

A little confused actually.

His kicking in front of goal has always been a problem, but he's a better mark than Jones, Cordy.

LostDoggy

19-09-2013, 11:11 AM

I recall Scarlett stating on Open Mike that he believed Roughy will be " One of the best KP players in the comp".
He has also highlighted his versatility before

Bulldog Revolution

19-09-2013, 11:29 AM

His kicking in front of goal has always been a problem, but he's a better mark than Jones, Cordy.

Actually he was a beautiful kick, but had a down year in front of goal in 2012 where he missed many I'd thought he would kick - Im not sure what happened there, because as a kid he was a great kick and hes kicked it well in intra club matches etc

Greystache

19-09-2013, 11:49 AM

Actually he was a beautiful kick, but had a down year in front of goal in 2012 where he missed many I'd thought he would kick - Im not sure what happened there, because as a kid he was a great kick and hes kicked it well in intra club matches etc

He's always been a lovely field kick, but he's a 50-50 proposition at goal even from the goal square. He never misses by much, he just always misses. 12 goals 21 for his career is pretty horrible.