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Ghost Dog
09-06-2016, 11:00 AM
Link (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/stats-insider-how-western-bulldogs-geelong-cats-have-been-most-hurt-by-inaccurate-goalkicking-expected-scores/news-story/412000efb3bf418c2596d17bc7883b02)

So we should have beaten Hawks, GWS and North. I don't know how they calculate these sort of things in terms of ' quality of scoring shots'. Seems a bit vague.

Murphy'sLore
09-06-2016, 12:50 PM
Well, even I could have told you we would have won those games if we'd kicked straight! Maybe I should start looking for a job as a footy analyst.

Twodogs
09-06-2016, 01:32 PM
It aint hard analysing footy ML!

Ghost Dog
09-06-2016, 01:41 PM
Yes, people getting paid to say 'it's going to be won in the middle'....

Murphy'sLore
09-06-2016, 01:48 PM
Are you telling me it's all bluff and computers? I'm shocked, shocked I tells ya.

jeemak
09-06-2016, 01:58 PM
Are you telling me it's all bluff and computers? I'm shocked, shocked I tells ya.

Just like Michael Jackson's Moon Walk - Mirrors.

Twodogs
09-06-2016, 01:58 PM
Yes, people getting paid to say 'it's going to be won in the middle'....

Or the classic, geez! Callan Ward/Joel Selwood/Adam Yeo/Mitch Wallis puts his head over the ball every time doesn't he?


Are you telling me it's all bluff and computers? I'm shocked, shocked I tells ya.

Smoke and mirrors is my appraised of your assessment of their commentary. I think.

Flamethrower
09-06-2016, 08:19 PM
It was the unnatural accuracy achieved by both Hawthorn and the Giants that cost us, not our inaccuracy.
In reality, it was only the game against Norf where we kicked ourselves out of it.

Ozza
10-06-2016, 12:31 PM
Was just taking a look at our accuracy %, against the league average, and Hawthorn's average - over the last few years (Hawthorn as the 'benchmark' as they always seem to be able to convert well when required)

2016 Season:

Bulldogs: 52.1%
AFL Ave: 53.5%
Hawthorn: 55%


2015 Season

Bulldogs: 55.5%
AFL Ave: 53.4%
Hawthorn: 59%

2014 Season:

Bulldogs: 51.5%
AFL Ave: 52.4%
Hawthorn: 59.2%

2013 Season:

Bulldogs: 55.3%
AFL Ave: 53.4%
Hawthorn: 56%

Ozza
10-06-2016, 12:40 PM
Its worth noting - that looking at the stats historically, there is nothing to support this notion that goal kicking is worse these days.

Between 1990 and today - the season averages for accuracy range between 51% and low 55%'s.

For all of the years prior to 1990 - the average would be somewhere around 45%. Obviously the accuracy should be higher from 1990 onwards, due to the professionalism of the game amongst other reasons etc. But I thought that the facts are worth putting out there.

In terms of individual player accuracy, the most accurate goal kickers of all time (in terms of say, a top 30) are pretty much all modern era players. Trent McKenzie is the only current player in the list of most inaccurate kickers - and it is probably due to teeing off from 60m+ out from goal.

Tony Lockett's accuracy - for someone who had nearly 2000 shots at goal - is remarkable.