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bulldogtragic
24-07-2016, 06:43 PM
I'm wondering which AFL coaches are in the gun for this year and next.

Leppitsch - Surely it's soon, despite a year to run.
Hardwick - Again has a contract, but he's looking more and more like Frawley & Wallace as a lame duck at Punt Road.
Brad Scott - Has 12 years left on his contract, but has expertly put together a mediocre and old list misjudging his cattle majorly.
Rocket Eade - Doesn't seem like a happy marriage.
Ross Lyon - Freo can't afford to move him on with 3 or 4 years on his contract, but I wouldn't want him trying to rebuild.
Buckley - Again, has a contract, but he's taken then backwards every year despite every advantage his club has afforded him.

Recent sacked coaches also had years to run, including our former coach. Is the trend to sign coaches up for too long? Because I'd hazard a guess that a few would have 'a mutual separation' if contract paying out wasn't an issue.

Scraggers
24-07-2016, 07:05 PM
Previous coaches already throwing their hat in the ring?

We know Mark Thompson and Brett Ratten have said they're ready to go again. What about Mark Harvey? He was doing an alright job at Freo before he was shafted.

Happy Days
25-07-2016, 02:01 PM
The real question is what is Gary Ayers up to.

Am I doing this right?

bornadog
25-07-2016, 02:08 PM
The real question is what is Gary Ayers up to.

Am I doing this right?

You have the full support of the board

EasternWest
25-07-2016, 03:57 PM
The real question is what is Gary Ayers up to.

Am I doing this right?

I know you're being funny but hasn't Ayres taken his medicine and run a fairly successful club at the second tier level?

He might be a dinosaur/relic and that's what holds him back, but hasn't he at least got the resume to throw his hat in?

Twodogs
26-07-2016, 11:30 PM
I honestly don't see how Ayers isn't involved in the AFL system. He's a gun coach. He's a natural for those senior assistant jobs that are all the rage these days.

Still it's Port Melbourne's good luck that he isn't.

1eyedog
27-07-2016, 08:41 AM
I honestly don't see how Ayers isn't involved in the AFL system. He's a gun coach. He's a natural for those senior assistant jobs that are all the rage these days.

Still it's Port Melbourne's good luck that he isn't.

I agree gun coach but a difficult to work with 2LT I'd reckon.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
27-07-2016, 09:11 AM
I know you're being funny but hasn't Ayres taken his medicine and run a fairly successful club at the second tier level?

He might be a dinosaur/relic and that's what holds him back, but hasn't he at least got the resume to throw his hat in?

And he's 2 years younger than Rocket Eade.

westdog54
27-07-2016, 01:20 PM
I honestly don't see how Ayers isn't involved in the AFL system. He's a gun coach. He's a natural for those senior assistant jobs that are all the rage these days.

Still it's Port Melbourne's good luck that he isn't.


Its a pretty simple theory, but my theory is he loves doing what he does at the moment.

He'd be on a fairly healthy salary, have nowhere near the stress that an AFL club position would bring, would enjoy a rather unique brand of fan support (Port fans are pretty good value), has some pretty skilled and hardworking players under his tutelage.

Why leave?

Bulldog4life
27-07-2016, 02:32 PM
Its a pretty simple theory, but my theory is he loves doing what he does at the moment.

He'd be on a fairly healthy salary, have nowhere near the stress that an AFL club position would bring, would enjoy a rather unique brand of fan support (Port fans are pretty good value), has some pretty skilled and hardworking players under his tutelage.

Why leave?

I read somewhere recently that when he leaves Port he wants to coach a women's side.

westdog54
27-07-2016, 04:35 PM
I read somewhere recently that when he leaves Port he wants to coach a women's side.

We are looking for a Women's side coach...

bulldogtragic
30-07-2016, 05:19 PM
Will Richmond do a Richmond? 88 point thumping and only kicking 3 goals with 2 goal-less quarters. Richmond sacks coaches after long periods of not very much and a very, very poor loss.

Remi Moses
30-07-2016, 05:37 PM
Dimma's doing a good job.
They need to change their assistants ;)

GVGjr
30-07-2016, 06:44 PM
The media attention will circle around off us and land right in Richmond's lap.
I don't think the coach is the issue it's more around the recruiting however, he will be under a fair bit of pressure this week.

jeemak
30-07-2016, 07:27 PM
That they claim not to be entertaining interest from other clubs in Brett Deledio tells me they're not serious as list managers.

He'd command a first round and maybe a player most likely, which is precisely what they need. Or possibly, a couple of decent younger players in a trade could secure him.

It would be great if we could somehow get our hands on him. He'd really add some outside polish and finishing ability to our team.

EasternWest
30-07-2016, 07:38 PM
That they claim not to be entertaining interest from other clubs in Brett Deledio tells me they're not serious as list managers.

He'd command a first round and maybe a player most likely, which is precisely what they need. Or possibly, a couple of decent younger players in a trade could secure him.

It would be great if we could somehow get our hands on him. He'd really add some outside polish and finishing ability to our team.

Fantastic player, but getting to a period where I'm concerned about the repetition of soft tissue injuries.

jeemak
30-07-2016, 07:43 PM
Fantastic player, but getting to a period where I'm concerned about the repetition of soft tissue injuries.

That's fair enough, players of his age come with a risk profile.

hujsh
30-07-2016, 08:09 PM
That they claim not to be entertaining interest from other clubs in Brett Deledio tells me they're not serious as list managers.

He'd command a first round and maybe a player most likely, which is precisely what they need. Or possibly, a couple of decent younger players in a trade could secure him.

It would be great if we could somehow get our hands on him. He'd really add some outside polish and finishing ability to our team.

Could just be posturing. Especially this early in the year

bulldogtragic
25-10-2018, 02:21 PM
I've got to say I'm shocked there's been no coach sackings yet.

Bolton at Carlton had an absolute mare of a year. And he doesn't have a fixed term contract. I'm surprised they're staying loyal. Unlike them.
Richo at St Kilda. 4 wins and a draw and very lucky to have them. The players seem to be regressing under him.
Ross Lyon at Freo. Again, he looks like he's taking them backwards year on year. Then that tanking at Geelong... That's leaving a stain.
Hinkley at Port. Brought in all the well known names last year, missed the finals, good players now left. Lucky man.
Worsfold at Essendon. I would've thought Hird would be back in charge by now...

Strange times.

Doc26
25-10-2018, 02:57 PM
They can thank Hardwick and Buckley for both having successful seasons off the back of respective previous seasons where they where all but gone by most pundits. They've provided Club power brokers with enough reason to back their man in for another season or two.

Scraggers
25-10-2018, 04:51 PM
I've got to say I'm shocked there's been no coach sackings yet.

Bolton at Carlton had an absolute mare of a year. And he doesn't have a fixed term contract. I'm surprised they're staying loyal. Unlike them.
Richo at St Kilda. 4 wins and a draw and very lucky to have them. The players seem to be regressing under him.
Ross Lyon at Freo. Again, he looks like he's taking them backwards year on year. Then that tanking at Geelong... That's leaving a stain.
Hinkley at Port. Brought in all the well known names last year, missed the finals, good players now left. Lucky man.
Worsfold at Essendon. I would've thought Hird would be back in charge by now...

Strange times.

Sacking Lyon would cost Freo too much money; that's the only reason he is still there. He still has two years to run on his contract with a pay-out clause that has him getting every cent of that contract. He is reportedly earning a seven digit figure per year.

bulldogtragic
25-10-2018, 04:55 PM
Sacking Lyon would cost Freo too much money; that's the only reason he is still there. He still has two years to run on his contract with a pay-out clause that has him getting every cent of that contract. He is reportedly earning a seven digit figure per year.

Hilarious. I do wonder what the non-financial cost is of keeping him on though. Obvious less than $2,000,000.

Scraggers
25-10-2018, 05:00 PM
Hilarious. I do wonder what the non-financial cost is of keeping him on though. Obvious less than $2,000,000.

The amount of members who are walking away because of Lyon is considerable, but their recruiting of Hogan and Lobb (combined with the patronage/thrill of the new stadium) will counter-act this somewhat ... thus under the $2M mark.

bulldogtragic
25-10-2018, 05:10 PM
The amount of members who are walking away because of Lyon is considerable, but their recruiting of Hogan and Lobb (combined with the patronage/thrill of the new stadium) will counter-act this somewhat ... thus under the $2M mark.

Thinking about Lyon, his personality, his coaching and they way his team's play is the exact opposite of a footy aphrodisiac. I feel their pain. If they don't make finals next year, I wonder what that does to the debate in WA about whether they extend him or let him 'retire' from coaching? Or is there a favourite son, Buckley like favourite son, they can bring in for a formal handover of head coach in two years?

azabob
25-10-2018, 09:48 PM
Freo members will soon be walking away in droves after having to watch Lobb for a season or two.