All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

[bornadog]

* Vickery to Hawks for pick 26

* GWS receive pick 3 from Freo in exchange for Cameron McCarthy and picks 7, 33 & 71

* Wells to Collingwood - North get 2nd round pick, currently 32

* Tom Mitchell to Hawks for Pick 14, plus swap of later round picks to be confirmed.

* Chris Mayne to Collingwood as free agent - Freo receive Pick 23

* Brad Hill to Freo for Freo pick 23.

* Lions get: 3 & 16. Giants get: 2, 31, 51 & 60.

* Jack Steele to St Kilda. Future second round selection.

* Sam Mitchell to Eagles - The Hawks will get picks 52, 70 and 88 in exchange for Mitchell and picks 54 and 72.

* Hawks get picks 10 and 68, Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.

* Nathan Brown joins St Kilda as a restricted free agent after Collingwood elects not to match the Saints' offer

* Paul Ahern (GWS), to North for pick 69

* Brisbane's Pearce Hanley now plays for Gold Coast as part of a three-way deal.


Gold Coast gets Hanley and receives selection 67 from Port Adelaide.
The Brisbane Lions gain the Suns' second round selection (pick 22) and also secure Port Adelaide’s future first round selection in 2017
The Power acquire the Lions’ first round priority selection (19) and the SUNS’ 30th overall selection


* Melbourne receives Jordan Lewis and Hawthorn's third and fourth round draft selections (picks No.57 and 68 at time of trade)
Hawthorn receives Melbourne's third and fourth round draft selections (picks No.48 and 66 at time of trade)

* Hamling to Freo for pick 35, and exchange of picks 43 and 61 fr0m Freo for 40 and 63. I believe 61 will satisfy Collingwood for Cloke

* MELBOURNE receive Michael Hibberd & pick 59 & send picks 29 & 68 to ESSENDON in exchange

* Dion Prestia and Pick 24 to Richmond. Pick 6 & 2017 R2 to Gold Coast.

* Toby Nankervis to Richmond. Pick 46 to Sydney

* The Gold Coast Suns have secured selections 35 and 43 in the 2016 AFL Draft after agreeing to trade selection 26 and 80 to the Western Bulldogs.

* Collingwood's Jarrod Witts has been traded to Gold Coast in exchange for picks 44 (R3) and 62 (R4).

* North Melbourne receives Nathan Hrovat and a 2017 third-round and fourth-round selection. Western Bulldogs receive a 2017 third-round and fourth-round selection

* Fremantle receives Shane Kersten, Geelong receives a fourth-round draft selection (No.63 at time of trade)

* Geelong receives Zach Tuohy and a 2017 second-round draft selection, Carlton receives Billie Smedts, a fourth-round draft selection (No.63 at time of trade) and a 2017 first-round draft selection

* Josh Caddy and Pick 56 to Richmond. Picks 24 & 64 to Geelong

* Sydney Swans exchange r2 (curr. pick 39) & r3 on-traded (52) to GWS Giants for its r2 on-traded (31).

* Adelaide receives a third and fourth-round selection (picks 43 and 67) Gold Coast receives Jarryd Lyons and a fourth-round selection (pick 71 at time of trade)

* GWS exchange P McKenna, r3 on-traded (curr. pick 51) & r4 on-traded (69) to Melb for r3 on-traded (57) & r4 on-traded (59)

* Cloke to Dogs for pick 76

* Vardy to West Coast for pick 71

* James Stewart to Essendon for 71

* Aaron Black to Geelong, for 92

* Coll exchange Jack Frost, on-traded r4 (curr. pick 76) & 2017 future r3 to Bris for 2017 future r3 & 2017 future r4.

* Melbourne exchange Lynden Dunn and r3 on-traded selection (curr. pick 51) to Collingwood for r3 (currently pick 47).

* Marley Williams to North Melbourne for pick 105

* Kobe to Saints and 61 for 50?

* Marchbank to Blues for Cats future 1st round. Pickett and Rhys Palmer to Blues for 45 and 58

* Hawks got O'Meara deal for pick 10 and swapped 48, 66 and 70 for Blues' 2nd round in 2017. No Hawks player involved

* Swans have done a deal on picks with Port. Power now have 14, 17, 30 and 31. Swans get 9, 19, 49. PA weren't using 49

* GOLD COAST AND FREO PICK SWAP - Freo get: Pick 35 & 71, Suns get: Pick 73 and 2017 future rd 2

* Brett Deledio has joined GWS. GWS sent future first and third rounds

[LostDoggy]

I can't believe more isn't being made of the GWS Freo trade. What a mess by GWS.

IIRC last year Freo offered them last years first round pick (15ish) and the future year first round pick (turned out to be pick 3)

But no they decided to 'make a stand' well played GWS.. Could have had pick 15 last year and pick 3 this year for him, instead Freo have now made out like the bandits.

[bulldogtragic]

I can't believe more isn't being made of the GWS Freo trade. What a mess by GWS.

IIRC last year Freo offered them last years first round pick (15ish) and the future year first round pick (turned out to be pick 3)

But no they decided to 'make a stand' well played GWS.. Could have had pick 15 last year and pick 3 this year for him, instead Freo have now made out like the bandits.

True you are. But I guess it's kind of like spilling some Bollinger or Dom Perignon from a glass when you're sitting on a crate full of it. Not ideal to waste some, but who cares, they'll just open another bottle and keep on drinking from the AFEL and the rest of the competition.

[bornadog]

I can't believe more isn't being made of the GWS Freo trade. What a mess by GWS.

IIRC last year Freo offered them last years first round pick (15ish) and the future year first round pick (turned out to be pick 3)

But no they decided to 'make a stand' well played GWS.. Could have had pick 15 last year and pick 3 this year for him, instead Freo have now made out like the bandits.

However, the loser was also Cam McCarthy who thought he can just walk out of GWS and go where he wants when he has a contract. Missed a whole year of footy.

Contracts don't seem to be worth the paper there written on.

[Go_Dogs]

Contracts don't seem to be worth the paper there written on.

If players want to leave, contract or not, then they will in 99% of the cases.

I wonder if clubs will begin pushing back by offering shorter contract terms - what's the point of locking in players for long term contracts when they can leave and potentially, a poor season can mean better ability to manage the list and TPP? Port Adelaide are a good example, the massive contract with Hartlett is causing a few issues and making it more difficult to move him on. Swans probably the same with Tippett and Reid - without those long deals they would've been better placed to keep Mitchell.

It may end up that only franchise players (if I can steal an American sport term) are given contracts with 3+ years.

[AndrewP6]

It may end up that only franchise players (if I can steal an American sport term) are given contracts with 3+ years.

Like Liam Jones? ;):D

[ledge]

Gibbs one is interesting he still had three years to go on his contract . If Adelaide take him it's a huge deal

[1eyedog]

Freo are crap, plus he'll struggle for years against the best defender.

[1eyedog]

Pretty excited that Geelong have very little wriggle room re. the Lids trade. Lachie Henderson clearly a master stroke. Looking forward to them losing a good player in Caddy. Richmond will be fair in the guts with Caddy, Cotchin, Martin and Prestia next year.

[bornadog]

* Vickery to Hawks for pick 26

* GWS receive pick 3 from Freo in exchange for Cameron McCarthy and picks 7, 33 & 71

* Wells to Collingwood - North get 2nd round pick, currently 32

* Tom Mitchell to Hawks for Pick 14, plus swap of later round picks to be confirmed.

Updated

[Ozza]

Gee Sydney get screwed on Tom Mitchell for virtually only pick 14.

[bornadog]

Chris Mayne to Collingwood as free agent

[Topdog]

Gee Sydney get screwed on Tom Mitchell for virtually only pick 14.

Think about poor North. They gave up pick 15 last year for Jed Anderson

[chef]

Pick 23 for Mayne. Haha Freo must be laughing.

[bulldogtragic]

Pick 23 for Mayne. Haha Freo must be laughing.

Even more so they have a pick to grab Hamling now.

[Topdog]

Pick 23 for Mayne. Haha Freo must be laughing.

Was that a trade?

[bulldogtragic]

Was that a trade?

Free agency compo.

[hujsh]

That is one broken system right there. Can we ever get something from the AFL that gives consistent reliable outcomes?

[KT31]

That is one broken system right there. Can we ever get something from the AFL that gives consistent reliable outcomes?

The only thing the AFL does consistently and reliably is screw us.

[1eyedog]

Even more so they have a pick to grab Hamling now.

Pick 23 for Hamling that's a massive upgrade for two years work. It's like buying a run down ramshackle house in Craigieburn and reselling to a middle class family in Carlton. It's not a Toorak return, but it's far better than what we paid for it and it may assist us with the Deledio trade and we keep 18.

Hamling was good for 4 games remember. He's been ok in the past and dropped off. I'm not sold on it but I wish MJP could give us his thoughts on it as he's rated Hamling for a long time.

[Mantis]

Think about poor North. They gave up pick 15 last year for Jed Anderson

Was it a straight swap though? I thought Norf received a later pick as well.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Pick 23 will be used to get Hill from Hawks. And they still have to trade for Kersten too. So not sure what that leaves for Hamling.....i guess we will just have to settle for Fyfe

[bornadog]

Pick 23 will be used to get Hill from Hawks. And they still have to trade for Kersten too. So not sure what that leaves for Hamling.....i guess we will just have to settle for Fyfe

Hawks 14 and 23 for O'Meara?

[azabob]

Hamling could just walk to the pre season draft.

[bornadog]

Hamling could just walk to the pre season draft.

I doubt he would do that as it wouldn't achieve the result he wants.

[azabob]

I doubt he would do that as it wouldn't achieve the result he wants.

What result does he want though? No one will pick him before the dockers.

[bornadog]

What result does he want though? No one will pick him before the dockers.

My guess is he is weighing up the dollars. Why would he risk leaving a premiership team and being picked up by Essendon or Brisbane? If I was Brisbane for example, I would pick him.

[1eyedog]

My guess is he is weighing up the dollars. Why would he risk leaving a premiership team and being picked up by Essendon or Brisbane? If I was Brisbane for example, I would pick him.

Absolutely there is no honor amongst thieves. The Bombers or Brisbane would collected him for nothing. Plus is he really that much of an arse to wipe himself on us on the way out?

[Axe Man]

Hawks 14 and 23 for O'Meara?

The hawks don't have 14, it's all but gone to Sydney for Tom Mitchell.

[bornadog]

The hawks don't have 14, it's all but gone to Sydney for Tom Mitchell.

Yeah, I just realised - cheers.

I can't see how they can get O'Meara if GC stick to their guns.

[Axe Man]

Yeah, I just realised - cheers.

I can't see how they can get O'Meara if GC stick to their guns.

Gold Coast want players not picks anyway. If the hawks aren't prepared to give up a good player O'Meara might just end up at Essendon.

[LostDoggy]

Yeah, I just realised - cheers.

I can't see how they can get O'Meara if GC stick to their guns.

Given it was revealed yesterday that Hawthorn are prepared to trade out club legend Sam Mitchell as part of a trade package, who knows who else they are prepared to trade.

[bulldogtragic]

Done: Brad Hill for Freo pick 23.

Not much left to trade with us, unless they upgrade the first rounder.

[bulldogtragic]

Done: The Age is reporting that GWS and Brisbane have done a trade of picks. Brisbane get 3 & 16 in exchange for 2, 31, 51 and 60
#NABTradeRadio

[KT31]

Done: Brad Hill for Freo pick 23.

Not much left to trade with us, unless they upgrade the first rounder.

Wiki's on the ball, went to look at Hills stats and they already have him written up as a Freo player.

[bulldogtragic]

Done: Jack Steele to St Kilda. Future second round selection.

[azabob]

Hawks have traded their soul and Mitchell for a pack of chips. Surely this & the Lewis backflip hurts the "family clubs" fabric?

[bornadog]

Hawks have traded their soul and Mitchell for a pack of chips. Surely this & the Lewis backflip hurts the "family clubs" fabric?

Exchange of some picks but essentially Mitchell for pick 88

Cheap as chips for a club champion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CurxuN9UsAAvbcc.jpg

[Dancin' Douggy]

Nothing would make me happier than an implosion at hawthorn. That and a bulldog flag.

[Rocket Science]

West Coast, to one of their chief competitors; "Sure guys, we're happy to help you reload and sneak away from your payroll issues in the process".

Hard not to see this as short sighted enablement.

[bornadog]

Trade: Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.

[bulldogtragic]

Trade: Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.

I guess the Hawks get their top 10 pick after all. Can Koby net us 36? (Late second rounder)

[Dancin' Douggy]

36 sounds about right.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Hawks putting a lot of eggs into this omeara basket

[azabob]

I guess the Hawks get their top 10 pick after all. Can Koby net us 36? (Late second rounder)

I reckon we will only get a third rounder for Stevens.

[bornadog]

Hawks putting a lot of eggs into this omeara basket

They have managed to offload a big contract and snare Mitchell and O'Meara and piss off Lewis who may also end up leaving.

They have 7 players who will be over 30 next year and 7 who will hit 29 next year. List is shot.

[1eyedog]

They have managed to offload a big contract and snare Mitchell and O'Meara and piss off Lewis who may also end up leaving.

They have 7 players who will be over 30 next year and 7 who will hit 29 next year. List is shot.

They'll have so many gaps across their lines its not funny but they'll have O'Meara and Mitchell in the middle. Not enough as Geelong showed with Selwood and Dangerfield.

[bornadog]

They'll have so many gaps across their lines its not funny but they'll have O'Meara and Mitchell in the middle. Not enough as Geelong showed with Selwood and Dangerfield.

I hope we never see them in the 8 again.

[1eyedog]

I hope we never see them in the 8 again.

If they lose Hartung as well they'll be worse. Hartung may be a best 20-22 player but he's quick and and will improve. Losing him and Hill means they lose a lot of pace and ripping the heart out of your midfield for next to nothing has to have a detrimental affect on their performances next year.

[G-Mo77]

They have managed to offload a big contract and snare Mitchell and O'Meara and piss off Lewis who may also end up leaving.

They have 7 players who will be over 30 next year and 7 who will hit 29 next year. List is shot.

List is shot but they're ding a good job of keeping refreshing it quickly. Draft well and they won't be down for long, if they do go down. Love them or hate them they know how to build a winning team.

I do hope they fall flat on their face though :D

[hujsh]

Trade: Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.

Could be a big win for the Saints if the Hawks do drop off. Could end up with pick 10-12 odd pretty easily next year

[Dancin' Douggy]

I hope we never see them in the 8 again.

never ever again would do nicely.

[comrade]

Can someone explain how the Hawks think they can on trade pick 10 to GC for Jaeger after trading next year's first.

I thought there were clear restrictions about trading first rounders 2 years in a row. If that's the case, will the AFEL approve the deal and Hawks will just have to manufacture a first rounder down the track somehow.

If so, seems to go against the spirit of the rule. Not that it would stop the AFEL or the Hawks.

I'm confused.

[bulldogtragic]

Can someone explain how the Hawks think they can on trade pick 10 to GC for Jaeger after trading next year's first.

I thought there were clear restrictions about trading first rounders 2 years in a row. If that's the case, will the AFEL approve the deal and Hawks will just have to manufacture a first rounder down the track somehow.

If so, seems to go against the spirit of the rule. Not that it would stop the AFEL or the Hawks.

I'm confused.

It's 2 in 4 isn't it?

[comrade]

It's 2 in 4 isn't it?

Yeah, might be.

[1eyedog]

I reckon the Hawks are knackered. Too old and the only bloke keeping their head above water is gone. They've lost run and bring in a pretty good though one paced footballer. And then there's Vickery just to seal their fate. Think the writing is on the wall and the Saints will cash in next draft.

[1eyedog]

Beyond Tom Mitchell they have no midfield depth and who knows what Jaeger will throw up.

[comrade]

I reckon the Hawks are knackered. Too old and the only bloke keeping their head above water is gone. They've lost run and bring in a pretty good though one paced footballer. And then there's Vickery just to seal their fate. Think the writing is on the wall and the Saints will cash in next draft.

Don't know why they're not prepared to take a whack for a year or two and regenerate. Swans showed it can be done (albeit with academy help), we took 3-4 years to go from basket case to finalists to premiers.

From the outside, it looks like they've completely de-stabilised the playing group by bringing in big money recruits into a team that has prided itself on taking cuts to stay together.

[1eyedog]

I think they've become arrogant and I also think while he has credits in the bank Clarko has too much say in list management.

Will be interesting to sit back and see how it goes but the formula they're employing has failed elsewhere.

[Topdog]

I believe a club can trade what they want away but after the 2 in 4 breach they will have restrictions

[bornadog]

Nathan Brown joins St Kilda as a restricted free agent after Collingwood elects not to match the Saints' offer

[bulldogtragic]

Nathan Brown joins St Kilda as a restricted free agent after Collingwood elects not to match the Saints' offer

Only 2 hours, 50 minutes remain for free agency nominations.

[bornadog]

Only 2 hours, 50 minutes remain for free agency nominations.

Somehow I don't think we want Mitch.

[bulldogtragic]

Somehow I don't think we want Mitch.

Or any free agent.

[bornadog]

Paul Ahern (GWS), to North for pick 69

[bornadog]

Jordon Lewis to Melbourne on 3 year deal. (details to come)

[1eyedog]

Jordon Lewis to Melbourne on 3 year deal. (details to come)

Gold.

[bornadog]

Gold.

Hawks have lost 1, 2 from BNF..... hehehe

Also Hill gone, Vickery and T Mitchell in.

[G-Mo77]

Paul Ahern (GWS), to North for pick 69

Love this trade for Norf. Low risk, high reward.

[The Doctor]

We should offer Hawthorn pick 74 for Cyril

[ledge]

Omeara is no guarantee to even play footy again , huge risk and could wreck their rebuild if planned around him.

[bornadog]

Brisbane's Pearce Hanley now plays for Gold Coast as part of a three-way deal.

Here's the deal

Gold Coast gets Hanley and receives selection 67 from Port Adelaide.
The Brisbane Lions gain the Suns' second round selection (pick 22) and also secure Port Adelaide’s future first round selection in 2017
The Power acquire the Lions’ first round priority selection (19) and the SUNS’ 30th overall selection

[GVGjr]

Good trade for all teams. Port are back into the draft in a big way. GCS get a very good player in Hanley.
Brisbane get some additional currency for next year and are clearly playing the long game.

[bulldogtragic]

Brisbane's Pearce Hanley now plays for Gold Coast as part of a three-way deal.

Here's the deal

Gold Coast gets Hanley and receives selection 67 from Port Adelaide.
The Brisbane Lions gain the Suns' second round selection (pick 22) and also secure Port Adelaide’s future first round selection in 2017
The Power acquire the Lions’ first round priority selection (19) and the SUNS’ 30th overall selection

To me, Port are not getting the value the others are getting. Hanley for 22 & 30 is pretty good for GCS.

[LostDoggy]

To me, Port are not getting the value the others are getting. Hanley for 22 & 30 is pretty good for GCS.


Lions the winners for mine. 22 and next years first rounder is a great return for a disgrunted Hanley.

[soupman]

Port are idiots. They are at best a 50-50 shot of playing finals. Meaning they are very likely to be trading a pick which is at worst pick 10 in return for 19 and 30. That's not worth it.

[Axe Man]

Lions the winners for mine. 22 and next years first rounder is a great return for a disgrunted Hanley.

They gave up this years 19 as well as Hanley.

[LostDoggy]

They gave up this years 19 as well as Hanley.

Oh yeah. That's a bit more balanced. Still, effectively next year's 1st for Hanley is pretty good. Would be great fun to trade for a future first rounder and riding against the other team the following year.

[bulldogtragic]

Jordan Lewis gone to Melbourne for bugger all, a third round upgrade of 11 spots pretty much.

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvBULcDUMAUGDeD.jpg

[bulldogtragic]

18, 35, 43, 61, 75, 76

With Hrovat & Stevens to come.

[bornadog]

Hamling to Freo for pick 35, and exchange of picks 43 and 61 from Freo for 40 and 63. I believe 61 will satisfy Collingwood for Cloke

[divvydan]

Assuming Hrovat and Stevens both command a pick lower than 61 that would be 5 picks before 61 and I don't see us using more any more picks so it would be fine to give to Collingwood afterwards for Cloke.

[Sedat]

18, 35, 43, 61, 75, 76

With Hrovat & Stevens to come.
Maybe we will look to get better future picks for these two instead of crappier picks this season?

[bulldogtragic]

Maybe we will look to get better future picks for these two instead of crappier picks this season?

Well we are looking at 4 changes. Minson & Hamling, presumably Stevens & Hrovat.
We are bringing in Cloke. So we are using 18, 35 & 43 with 61 to Cloke.

So perhaps futures trading, or seeing if one of them can grab us a player we might be looking at maybe.

[azabob]

Maybe we will look to get better future picks for these two instead of crappier picks this season?

For Stevens it would have to be a future 2nd round. Saints should improve again.

You'd assume North / Carlton will fall and remain the same.

[LostDoggy]

18, 35, 43, 61, 75, 76

With Hrovat & Stevens to come.

Can we package up those lower picks into something we can use?

[GVGjr]

Can we package up those lower picks into something we can use?

75 and 76 are very unlikely to be used. 61 is probably earmaked for Cloke.
It depends on what we get for Stevens (I think the Saints are offering pick 50) and Hrovat if we can put together a late move on a player or to move up a few spots in the draft.

[bulldogtragic]

Can we package up those lower picks into something we can use?

Dogs: 18, 43 & 50 (rumoured Stevens trade) = 1,640 points
Suns: 24, 26 = 1,514 points

If we can can swap second rounders with Carlton for Hrovat, that's pick 25 (giving them back 35).

Picks 24, 25, 26, 61 on Cloke

In: 4 - players/picks
Out: 4 - Minson, Hamling, Stevens, Hrovat

[1eyedog]

Why are we offloading Hrovat? He doesn't really want to go does he?

[bulldogtragic]

Why are we offloading Hrovat? He doesn't really want to go does he?

It's not us. He and his manager have met numerous clubs and he's happy to be traded to North or Carlton. North may give us 33, but if Carlton trade second rounders 25/35 then that may be a good result if we can do a points trade with GCS.

[1eyedog]

OK so he wants out and is not particularly fussed whether its Norf or Cheats. He is one trade that may come back to bite us. Good player.

[bulldogtragic]

OK so he wants out and is not particularly fussed whether its Norf or Cheats. He is one trade that may come back to bite us. Good player.

I'd rather keep him than take 33. But like Hamling today, it might just be the best bad option.

[bulldogtragic]

Not yet confirmed, but it looks like GCS might sell O'Meara for picks only, 10 & 48. If that goes through, you just can't take GCS seriously about their demands for better picks and experienced players...

[Topdog]

Can we keep this thread for confirmed trades only

[bornadog]

MELBOURNE receive Michael Hibberd & pick 59 & sent picks 29 & 68 to ESSENDON in exchange

[GVGjr]

This might start a few more trades being completed today. Tomorrow will be a rush

[westdog54]

As it stands at the moment, Melbourne's first pick will be 59. Surely that's not how they're going to the draft.

[ledge]

As it stands at the moment, Melbourne's first pick will be 59. Surely that's not how they're going to the draft.

They are in the premiership window ;-)

[Topdog]

So Hibbard for pick 29 basically? Geez that seems high to me.

[bulldogtragic]

So Hibbard for pick 29 basically? Geez that seems high to me.

25 for Melksham last year. Dodoro must love dealing with Melbourne.

[1eyedog]

Prestia confirmed to Richmond for pick 6 and a swap of second round picks.

[bornadog]

Prestia confirmed to Richmond for pick 6 and a swap of second round picks.

Dion Prestia and Pick 24 to Richmond. Pick 6 & 2017 R2 to Gold Coast.

[bornadog]

Richmond closing in on Caddy and West coast on Vardy

[Remi Moses]

Richmond giving up picks like confetti

[bulldogtragic]

Nankervis to Richmond, Pick 46

[bulldogtragic]

Deledio has agreed to join GWS. Finalising the deal in the morning.

[1eyedog]

I'm not unhappy about that.

[Axe Man]

I'm not unhappy about that.

Strengthening probably our greatest rival for next years flag is not a good result for us.

[1eyedog]

Strengthening probably our greatest rival for next years flag is not a good result for us.

There's that but they'll likely lose Whitfield and us bringing in Cloke offsets it somewhat. I don't think Lids is the make or break re. beating them in the next final.

[GVGjr]

I'm not unhappy about that.

I couldn't quite see the value in acquiring Deledio but he would have made us a bit better. GWS get stronger.

[bulldogtragic]

Hrovat for 2017 swap of 3rd & 4th rounders. Paperwork being lodged now (via Herald Sun).

[Axe Man]

The Gold Coast Suns have secured selections 35 and 43 in the 2016 AFL Draft after agreeing to trade selection 26 and 80 to the Western Bulldogs.

[GVGjr]

Collingwood's Jarrod Witts has been traded to Gold Coast in exchange for picks 44 (R3) and 62 (R4).

[1eyedog]

News on Hrovat: The Western Bulldogs midfielder joins North Melbourne, along with 2017 third and fourth round picks for North's 2017 third and fourth round picks.

http://www.afl.com.au/trade/trade-talk

[bulldogtragic]

Top 4 finish for us, bottom 4 finish for them - hypothetically.

Picks 50 for 40 & 68 for 58.

[GVGjr]

Top 4 finish for us, bottom 4 finish for them - hypothetically.

Picks 50 for 40 & 68 for 58.

It's still a strange move that doesn't give us a lot. I think Hrovat is nowhere near his potential and could make this look like a poor deal.

[Ozza]

Kersten deal done for Freo's pick 63.

[bornadog]

So Far


* Vickery to Hawks for pick 26

* GWS receive pick 3 from Freo in exchange for Cameron McCarthy and picks 7, 33 & 71

* Wells to Collingwood - North get 2nd round pick, currently 32

* Tom Mitchell to Hawks for Pick 14, plus swap of later round picks to be confirmed.

* Chris Mayne to Collingwood as free agent - Freo receive Pick 23

* Brad Hill to Freo for Freo pick 23.

* Lions get: 3 & 16. Giants get: 2, 31, 51 & 60.

* Jack Steele to St Kilda. Future second round selection.

* Sam Mitchell to Eagles - The Hawks will get picks 52, 70 and 88 in exchange for Mitchell and picks 54 and 72.

* Hawks get picks 10 and 68, Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.

* Nathan Brown joins St Kilda as a restricted free agent after Collingwood elects not to match the Saints' offer

* Paul Ahern (GWS), to North for pick 69

* Brisbane's Pearce Hanley now plays for Gold Coast as part of a three-way deal.


Gold Coast gets Hanley and receives selection 67 from Port Adelaide.
The Brisbane Lions gain the Suns' second round selection (pick 22) and also secure Port Adelaide’s future first round selection in 2017
The Power acquire the Lions’ first round priority selection (19) and the SUNS’ 30th overall selection


* Melbourne receives Jordan Lewis and Hawthorn's third and fourth round draft selections (picks No.57 and 68 at time of trade)
Hawthorn receives Melbourne's third and fourth round draft selections (picks No.48 and 66 at time of trade)

* Hamling to Freo for pick 35, and exchange of picks 43 and 61 fr0m Freo for 40 and 63. I believe 61 will satisfy Collingwood for Cloke

* MELBOURNE receive Michael Hibberd & pick 59 & send picks 29 & 68 to ESSENDON in exchange

* Dion Prestia and Pick 24 to Richmond. Pick 6 & 2017 R2 to Gold Coast.

* Toby Nankervis to Richmond. Pick 46 to Sydney

* The Gold Coast Suns have secured selections 35 and 43 in the 2016 AFL Draft after agreeing to trade selection 26 and 80 to the Western Bulldogs.

* Collingwood's Jarrod Witts has been traded to Gold Coast in exchange for picks 44 (R3) and 62 (R4).

* North Melbourne receives Nathan Hrovat and a 2017 third-round and fourth-round selection. Western Bulldogs receive a 2017 third-round and fourth-round selection

* Fremantle receives Shane Kersten, Geelong receives a fourth-round draft selection (No.63 at time of trade)

[bornadog]

Geelong receives Zach Tuohy and a 2017 second-round draft selection, Carlton receives Billie Smedts, a fourth-round draft selection (No.63 at time of trade) and a 2017 first-round draft selection

[comrade]

It's still a strange move that doesn't give us a lot. I think Hrovat is nowhere near his potential and could make this look like a poor deal.

Why would it look like a poor deal?

We've done a deal that helps a well liked and respected player get to his home of choice. Uncontracted and has played very little footy over the past 2 years.

We're lucky to get anything for him, yet it reaffirms our reputation as fair dealing and builds a relationship with another list manager.

[1eyedog]

Richmond gets Josh Caddy and pick 56 for Geelong's picks 24 and 64 @AFL #AFLTrades @traderadio

Surely all of this could be sorted over 5 working days.

[bornadog]

Sydney Swans exchange r2 (curr. pick 39) & r3 on-traded (52) to GWS Giants for its r2 on-traded (31).

[GVGjr]

Sydney Swans exchange r2 (curr. pick 39) & r3 on-traded (52) to GWS Giants for its r2 on-traded (31).

Decent exchange. Swans give up 692 points which aren't that important to them for 602. It's a nice move up the order for them

[bornadog]

Not official yet:

Jarryd Lyons a Gold Coast Sun. Will be done for pick 43.

[azabob]

Not official yet:

Jarryd Lyons a Gold Coast Sun. Will be done for pick 43.

But I will post it anyway in the ALL CONFIRMED MOVES thread :D:D:D

[bulldogtragic]

But I will post it anyway in the ALL CONFIRMED MOVES thread :D:D:D

At least his post had a trade in it, unlike yours! :D

Oh shit, mine doesn't have one too! :D

[GVGjr]

Not official yet:

Jarryd Lyons a Gold Coast Sun. Will be done for pick 43.

Now official

[azabob]

Not official yet:

Jarryd Lyons a Gold Coast Sun. Will be done for pick 43.


Now official

But will need to be edited to reflect the actual trade.

Adel Crows exchange J Lyons and r4 (curr. pick 71) to GC Suns for r3 on-traded (43) and r4 on-traded (67).

[bornadog]

Melbourne get Pat McKenna, pick 51 and pick 69


GWS get pick 57 and 59

[azabob]

Interesting Pat McKenna was a former junior Australian Cricketer.

Under 19 Australian captain.

[The Doctor]

Vardy to West Coast for 72

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Wow it's a fire sale down at the cattery

[Axe Man]

Vardy to West Coast for 72

I wonder why we went cold on Vardy when we could have had him for virtually nothing?

[The Doctor]

Cloke done for 76

[Sedat]

Clokey for pick 76 - edit, too quick for me Doc

[GVGjr]

You wonder why it took so long however, I think the Pies amassed the points they wanted

[The Doctor]

so we retain pick 61. this is interesting.

Lets see what happens to Stevens now

[Sedat]

James Stewart to Essendon for pick 77 - puts Essendon in the box seat to march JOM through to the PSD. Pressure on Hawks now.

[GVGjr]

James Stewart to Essendon for pick 77 - puts Essendon in the box seat to march JOM through to the PSD. Pressure on Hawks now.

Yep, lets see who cracks first.

[bornadog]

* Vickery to Hawks for pick 26

* GWS receive pick 3 from Freo in exchange for Cameron McCarthy and picks 7, 33 & 71

* Wells to Collingwood - North get 2nd round pick, currently 32

* Tom Mitchell to Hawks for Pick 14, plus swap of later round picks to be confirmed.

* Chris Mayne to Collingwood as free agent - Freo receive Pick 23

* Brad Hill to Freo for Freo pick 23.

* Lions get: 3 & 16. Giants get: 2, 31, 51 & 60.

* Jack Steele to St Kilda. Future second round selection.

* Sam Mitchell to Eagles - The Hawks will get picks 52, 70 and 88 in exchange for Mitchell and picks 54 and 72.

* Hawks get picks 10 and 68, Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.

* Nathan Brown joins St Kilda as a restricted free agent after Collingwood elects not to match the Saints' offer

* Paul Ahern (GWS), to North for pick 69

* Brisbane's Pearce Hanley now plays for Gold Coast as part of a three-way deal.


Gold Coast gets Hanley and receives selection 67 from Port Adelaide.
The Brisbane Lions gain the Suns' second round selection (pick 22) and also secure Port Adelaide’s future first round selection in 2017
The Power acquire the Lions’ first round priority selection (19) and the SUNS’ 30th overall selection


* Melbourne receives Jordan Lewis and Hawthorn's third and fourth round draft selections (picks No.57 and 68 at time of trade)
Hawthorn receives Melbourne's third and fourth round draft selections (picks No.48 and 66 at time of trade)

* Hamling to Freo for pick 35, and exchange of picks 43 and 61 fr0m Freo for 40 and 63. I believe 61 will satisfy Collingwood for Cloke

* MELBOURNE receive Michael Hibberd & pick 59 & send picks 29 & 68 to ESSENDON in exchange

* Dion Prestia and Pick 24 to Richmond. Pick 6 & 2017 R2 to Gold Coast.

* Toby Nankervis to Richmond. Pick 46 to Sydney

* The Gold Coast Suns have secured selections 35 and 43 in the 2016 AFL Draft after agreeing to trade selection 26 and 80 to the Western Bulldogs.

* Collingwood's Jarrod Witts has been traded to Gold Coast in exchange for picks 44 (R3) and 62 (R4).

* North Melbourne receives Nathan Hrovat and a 2017 third-round and fourth-round selection. Western Bulldogs receive a 2017 third-round and fourth-round selection

* Fremantle receives Shane Kersten, Geelong receives a fourth-round draft selection (No.63 at time of trade)

* Geelong receives Zach Tuohy and a 2017 second-round draft selection, Carlton receives Billie Smedts, a fourth-round draft selection (No.63 at time of trade) and a 2017 first-round draft selection

* Josh Caddy and Pick 56 to Richmond. Picks 24 & 64 to Geelong

* Sydney Swans exchange r2 (curr. pick 39) & r3 on-traded (52) to GWS Giants for its r2 on-traded (31).

* Adelaide receives a third and fourth-round selection (picks 43 and 67) Gold Coast receives Jarryd Lyons and a fourth-round selection (pick 71 at time of trade)

* GWS exchange P McKenna, r3 on-traded (curr. pick 51) & r4 on-traded (69) to Melb for r3 on-traded (57) & r4 on-traded (59)

* Cloke to Dogs for pick 76

* Vardy to West Coast for pick 71

* James Stewart to Essendon for 71

* Aaron Black to Geelong, for 92

Coming through thick and fast now

[bornadog]

Will Hoskin-Elliot to Pies for future 2nd round pick

[KT31]

Cloke done for 76

Surprised it took the whole trade period then.

[aker39]

Marley Williams to North for Pick 105

[Greystache]

Marley Williams to North for Pick 105

Another faux tough guy with limited skills and running ability. Should fit right in

[bornadog]

Jack Frost to Lions for exchange of picks

[bornadog]

Melbourne exchange Lynden Dunn and r3 on-traded selection (curr. pick 51) to Collingwood for r3 (currently pick 47).

[bornadog]

Sam Landsberger ‏@SamLandsberger (https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger) 40s40 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/788935175094755328)
JAEGER DEAL DONE. Hawthorn ups its offer and lands its man, with the help of Carlton. Trade details exclusively


Suns effectively land pick 10 and two future seconds, after a few shuffles

[bornadog]

Marchbank to Blues for Cats future 1st round.


Pickett and Rhys Palmer to Blues for 45 and 58

[GVGjr]

9 ex GWS players now at GWS Lite

[bulldogtragic]

9 ex GWS players now at GWS Lite

Getting embarrassing. Rhys Palmer...

[bornadog]

Hawks got O'Meara deal for pick 10 and swapped 48, 66 and 70 for Blues' 2nd round in 2017. No Hawks player involved

[GVGjr]

Getting embarrassing. Rhys Palmer...

If they really apply themselves they could have a cricket team of GWS boys in 12 months time.

[bornadog]

Swans have done a deal on picks with Port. Power now have 14, 17, 30 and 31. Swans get 9, 19, 49. PA weren't using 49

[bornadog]

Delidio to GWS

[bornadog]

GOLD COAST AND FREO PICK SWAP


Freo get: Pick 35 & 71


Suns get: Pick 73 and 2017 future rd 2

[bulldogtragic]

GOLD COAST AND FREO PICK SWAP


Freo get: Pick 35 & 71


Suns get: Pick 73 and 2017 future rd 2

Freo get their 35 back!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

9 ex GWS players now at GWS Lite

Ridiculous.. it's as if SOS still wants to be GWS list manager............at Carlton

[Remi Moses]

Why is Silvagni so spruiked ? He's whole 2012 draftees at GWS are all gone

[The Doctor]

Hawks got O'Meara deal for pick 10 and swapped 48, 66 and 70 for Blues' 2nd round in 2017. No Hawks player involved

WTF? Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

The Carlton swap of picks part I mean

[bornadog]

WTF? Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

The Carlton swap of picks part I mean

Suns wanted a future second rounder, so Hawks traded for it.

[bornadog]

Why is Silvagni so spruiked ? He's whole 2012 draftees at GWS are all gone

He was also not the Fullback of the Century, just a media darling ;) and a wrestler.

[hujsh]

WTF? Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

The Carlton swap of picks part I mean

Well Rhys Palmer will take them to a premiership so it's 36 for 48, 66 and 70

[The Doctor]

Suns wanted a future second rounder, so Hawks traded for it.

I know that but a 2017 2nd rounder for trash like 48, 66 & 70? Or am I missing something here?

[bornadog]

I know that but a 2017 2nd rounder for trash like 48, 66 & 70? Or am I missing something here?

Yeah not sure what Carlton are doing. They never develop young players and expect instant success by bringing in rejects.

[Topdog]

9 ex GWS players now at GWS Lite

Fun game like Pokemon. Can you name them all.

Plowman
Palmer
Marchbank
Pickett
Jaksch

[Doc26]

Fun game like Pokemon. Can you name them all.

Plowman
Palmer
Marchbank
Pickett
Jaksch

There's a Whiley type and the ex Swan that got offloaded to GWS to make room for Buddy

[1eyedog]

Did Richards get picked up?

[bornadog]

Fun game like Pokemon. Can you name them all.

Plowman
Palmer
Marchbank
Pickett
Jaksch

Marchbank, picked up with pick 6 which we handed over for TBoyd, and now to Carlton for pick 45

[GVGjr]

Did Richards get picked up?

No takers

[azabob]

Did Richards get picked up?

Nope.

[anfo27]

Why is Silvagni so spruiked ? He's whole 2012 draftees at GWS are all gone

Yep. He had 3 chances to draft Stringer and then 2 chances to draft the bont.

[1eyedog]

No takers

Wonder where that leaves him.

[Greystache]

Fun game like Pokemon. Can you name them all.

Plowman
Palmer
Marchbank
Pickett
Jaksch

Summer
Wiley
Did Jackhs or whatever his name was end up there?
There was also a guy who got delisted, picked up by GWS, delisted again, then picked up by Carlton

Not a decent player amongst them.

Is SOS yet another example of a club legend being given free reign to do what he likes and sinking the club into the abyss?

[anfo27]

https://youtu.be/cueSVslcyhw

Got a bit of a giggle from this.

[KT31]

https://youtu.be/cueSVslcyhw

Got a bit of a giggle from this.

Its funny because it true.:)

[bulldogtragic]

https://youtu.be/cueSVslcyhw

Got a bit of a giggle from this.

Everyone has done the Hitler video, that's just perfecto funny!

[Topdog]

All except the injury prone part. No idea why that is said about Lids

[bornadog]

AFL admits to making a mistake in the massive trade which sent Jaeger O’Meara to Hawthorn (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-admits-to-making-a-mistake-in-the-massive-trade-which-sent-jaeger-omeara-to-hawthorn/news-story/e5b34107a511d81bcae89b09cf81669e)


SAM LANDSBERGER, Herald Sun
October 25, 2016 7:00pm

THE AFL has admitted to making a blunder in this year’s biggest trade — Jaeger O’Meara to Hawthorn.

Confusion surrounded the blockbuster deal until the AFL clarified on Tuesday that the Hawks had been allowed to part with their first two selections in next year’s draft.

AFL rules state that once a club trades its future first-round pick, it cannot trade any additional future picks.
The week before the O’Meara trade, Hawthorn sent its future first-round selection to St Kilda in a deal that also raised eyebrows.

But the league told the Herald Sun it had “interpreted” its own rule to mean the O’Meara deal was legal.
The AFL said Hawthorn was permitted to trade its future second-round selection, so long as it first acquired another club’s future second-rounder.

Moments before the O’Meara deal was lodged, Hawthorn secured Greater Western Sydney’s future second-round pick, courtesy of a trade with Carlton.
Under the league’s interpretation, that allowed Hawthorn to trade its own future second-rounder to the Suns as long as it held onto the Giants’.

The AFL’s interpretation allowed he Hawks to pull an ace when they appeared snookered on O’Meara entering the final day of trade period.

Compounding the mess, the official paperwork distributed by the AFL after Thursday’s deadline incorrectly stated that the Hawks had on-traded the Giants’ future second-rounder and kept their own.

That outcome would have fitted neatly with the wording of the AFL rule.
But the Suns and Hawks both believed that Hawthorn’s future second-rounder was part of the O’Meara trade — and the AFL confirmed that on Tuesday.

O’Meara was one of eight deals lodged in the frantic final 16 minutes of trade period, with several processed after the 2pm deadline.

The O’Meara bungle adds to what some clubs have already labelled the “dodgiest” trade period yet.

It began with Hawthorn publishing a statement declaring free agent Tyrone Vickery had accepted a three-year deal, only for that to be deleted and quickly replaced with a statement saying it was two years.

Sources close to Vickery told the Herald Sun before the deal was done he was expecting to stay at Waverley for at least three years.
The Hawks were routinely quizzed by the AFL and rivals wondered whether Vickery’s contract was structured to help Richmond land a better compensation pick.

Geelong recruiter Stephen Wells then admitted he was unaware the Cats could trade their future-round pick to secure Blue Zach Tuohy.
Geelong had already traded its first pick in 2015 and 2016 — to secure Patrick Dangerfield and Lachie Henderson — and AFL rules state clubs must use two first-round picks in every rolling four-year period.

Recruiters across the country believed that meant the Cats had to keep their first pick in 2017.
Instead, the AFL decided Geelong could punt its top 2017 pick, so long as it uses two in the next two years.

“I must admit, there was a perception here myself that a deal like this couldn’t be done, but we did check with the AFL,” Wells said.
The Herald Sun reported on Saturday that clubs were left “bewildered” by the guaranteed draft windfall for St Kilda in its pick swap with Hawthorn and were surprised at Carlton’s generosity in brokering the O’Meara deal.

The Blues gave Hawthorn the Giants’ future pick — which will fall between 19-36 — in exchange for picks 48, 66 and 70 on November 25.

Geelong cleared its deal for Zach Tuohy with the AFL. Picture: Getty Images
Hawthorn will enter this year’s draft at pick 88 and next year’s draft at the Giants’ second pick, but was thrilled to land O’Meara, Vickery and Tom Mitchell.

THE AFL’S RULE

“Should a club trade its future first round selection, it may not trade any other future selection for that same draft.”

WHAT HAPPENED

— Hawthorn traded its future first-round selection to St Kilda on October 14

— AFL paperwork after trade period stated Hawthorn on-traded Greater Western Sydney’s future second-round selection to Gold Coast in O’Meara deal

— Hawthorn and Gold Coast informed supporters that the deal instead involved the Hawks’ future second-round selection

— AFL yesterday said its paperwork was wrong, and Hawks traded their own future second-round selection to Gold Coast, as the clubs stated

AFL’S EXPLANATION

“They traded in the GWS future round two selection first, which meant they had a selection in the round that they could trade out, and they elected to trade out their selection, and keep the GWS selection.

“The AFL has interpreted the rule as that they had to retain a round two and round three selection, after trading out round one, so they had to trade in a round two before they were allowed to trade out a round two.”

[ratsmac]

Well that's as clear as mud!

[Dancin' Douggy]

Wow. Another afl 'investigation ' clears everything up and no one did anything wrong.

[LostDoggy]

C'mon everyone it's the Hawks we're talking about here!
They're being Pro-Active,Aggressive,One step ahead and REVOLUTIONARY!!!!! :rolleyes:

[anfo27]

https://youtu.be/8S1jo7wKBqo

[Greystache]

Normally the AFEL take longer pretending they've investigated something legitimately. Interesting.

[Twodogs]

This Carlton thing is hilarious. How many draft picks will he give away before somebody thinks to stop him?

[LostDoggy]

Mick Barlow has reportedly been signed as a DFA by Gold Coast Suns. I am pleased for him as he is clearly AFL quality and seems like a good bloke. Pretty good pick up for GCS who can use another big bodied, hard at it mid.

[GVGjr]

Mick Barlow has reportedly been signed as a DFA by Gold Coast Suns. I am pleased for him as he is clearly AFL quality and seems like a good bloke. Pretty good pick up for GCS who can use another big bodied, hard at it mid.

Sensational pick up for them especially given Jarrod Garlett's departure back home to WA.

[Twodogs]

Not the same quality but Barlow is a handy replacement for Dion Prestia.

[Axe Man]

Josh Green signed by Essendon as a DFA. Xavier Richards training with them as well.

Collingwood looking to rookie list Will Minson to mentor their young ruckmen, like they did with Ben Hudson. Don't do it Will!

[Bulldog4life]

Delidio to GWS

So glad we didn't get him.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-03/giants-rule-deledio-out-of-round-one-as-calf-flares-again

BRETT Deledio has been officially ruled out of contention for Greater Western Sydney's season opener against Adelaide after aggravating his troublesome calf injury during the week.

Deledio played just 11 games for Richmond last season due to persistent calf and Achilles issues, and the latest setback is a massive worry for the Giants and the 29-year-old star.

Speaking after the club's JLT Community Series loss to the Swans, GWS coach Leon Cameron revealed that Deledio had been close to getting back onto the field but broke down at training this week.

Giants go down to Swans in the wet

"He had six really good weeks with us then hurt his calf a few weeks back, then he looked like he was going to get going again, but he's re-injured it," he said.

"It's disappointing for him, it's always hard when you're a new player from another club that wants to get out there and impress.

"He just wants to get out there and play, as a professional athlete, so it was disappointing to cop that news during the week."

Deledio was always going to struggle to prove his fitness for the Giants' first game of the season against the Crows after hurting his calf in early February.

He still hadn't joined the main training group on a full-time basis, instead limited to some running exercises and gym work, but Cameron said he has faith the club's rehabilitation experts can work their magic on the former Tiger.

"I'm confident that our medical staff are doing all the right things.

“Yes, over the last two years he's had setbacks in terms of his Achilles, calves and quads, but I'm confident they can get him right," he said.

"It's about finding out what he can and can't do at this stage, but we're confident that he can get up and running and play some good footy for us."

Cameron said the Giants wouldn't be looking at placing Deledio on the long-term injury list.

"Right now we've got a full book other than a couple of injuries; Brett is one of them and Matt de Boer (hamstring) is the other, that aren't available to play round one," Cameron said.

[bulldogtragic]

So he's done his calf twice in 2 months. Not a good sign at his age. Richmond must be happy.

[Twodogs]

He's magic beans is Deledio. He would be perfect for us except he only gets on the park every now and then.

[KT31]

So he's done his calf twice in 2 months. Not a good sign at his age. Richmond must be happy.

Not the only ones, so glad we didn't pick him up after a last minute attempt to lure him our way.

[bulldogtragic]

Not the only ones, so glad we didn't pick him up after a last minute attempt to lure him our way.

Even more so watching English impress.

[Twodogs]

Even more so watching English impress.

And we only had one first pick. GWS had heaps of them.

[Sedat]

Richmond must be happy.
Two first rounders next year for a bloke who is cooked - not bad trading at all.

[bulldogtragic]

Two first rounders next year for a bloke who is cooked - not bad trading at all.

Yep, the next Aaron Fiora & Ezra Poyas should help them attain mediocrity much sooner.

[KT31]

Even more so watching English impress.

Makes me smile even more.

[Twodogs]

Geez. Two first rounders for Deledio and we get SFA for a premiership fullback. Let's see who plays more games from here on in.