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Bulldog Revolution
07-10-2017, 10:36 PM
Is this the make or break season of Shane Biggs career?

He's going into his 4th season with us after what (2-3) with the Swans

He's shown he can play (neat kick, provides a bit of run, reasonable without being outstanding at contested ball) but time stands still for no man and if he doesn't kick on in 2018 is this the end for Shane Biggs?

Do you think this is the crossroad year for him?

chef
07-10-2017, 10:44 PM
No. Hes easily a best 22 player and has been for 2 seasons now. Underated.

GVGjr
07-10-2017, 10:48 PM
Huge season coming up for him. With Boyd and Murphy gone Biggs must stand up and be counted.
I don't think we can accept a less that satisfactory result from him. He's been a good performer but I think he can do better

It's the sort of season for him where by the end of 2018 he should be regarded as an improver or someone who we are looking to trade.

Bulldog Revolution
07-10-2017, 10:52 PM
No. Hes easily a best 22 player and has been for 2 seasons now. Underated.

I think he can play Chef but if he doesn't do it next year then will we just look to replace him with a kid or prioritise others we have?

It's a massive year for him I'd think to show he can be more than just a semi regular to regular

Look at what North have done with Gibson

Bulldog Revolution
07-10-2017, 10:55 PM
Huge season coming up for him. With Boyd and Murphy gone Biggs must stand up and be counted.
I don't think we can accept a less that satisfactory result from him. He's been a good performer but I think he can do better

It's the sort of season for him where by the end of 2018 he should be regarded as an improver or someone who we are looking to trade.

That's what I think - he's had enough of a look, he's good enough but has to drive himself to a higher lever and improve his game otherwise we will look to the draft and our list for replacements - Williams, Lynch etc

GVGjr
07-10-2017, 11:01 PM
That's what I think - he's had enough of a look, he's good enough but has to drive himself to a higher lever and improve his game otherwise we will look to the draft and our list for replacements - Williams, Lynch etc

He has to step up and fill the void of Murphy and Boyd and if he can't do that then he's expendable. He's tenacious and plays within his limitations but he must push himself to get a fair bit better. He needs to be not happy with his performances and challenge himself to improve

boydogs
07-10-2017, 11:14 PM
He has to step up and fill the void of Murphy and Boyd and if he can't do that then he's expendable

His 2017 was better than both Murphy's and Boyd's. Top 10 B&F

merantau
07-10-2017, 11:23 PM
His second half of 2017 was better than his first. He is best 22 but there will be challengers for his spot so he has to perform consistently well. I like it when he takes the game on. I don't think he kicked a goal in 2017.
Whatever the future holds for him he will always be remembered for "The Wall of Biggs" which he put up at about the 20 minute mark of the last quarter in the Grand Final. It was his finest hour.

bornadog
07-10-2017, 11:27 PM
Should this thread be about 2018?

Biggs started 2017 slowly but built up in the second half. He is easily best 22, and has been underrated by many supporters.

Remi Moses
08-10-2017, 01:00 AM
Bit tough saying it's a make or break year for Biggs . Reckon he was a lot better in the second half of the season .

S Coast Simon
08-10-2017, 02:53 AM
I watched the wall of Biggs about fifty times. It was my favourite moment in the grandy. Hope he steps up again next year. This could be a great year for him. Fingers crossed

ReLoad
08-10-2017, 04:00 AM
His second half of 2017 was better than his first. He is best 22 but there will be challengers for his spot so he has to perform consistently well. I like it when he takes the game on. I don't think he kicked a goal in 2017.
Whatever the future holds for him he will always be remembered for "The Wall of Biggs" which he put up at about the 20 minute mark of the last quarter in the Grand Final. It was his finest hour.

“The Great Wall of Biggs” has some largely unknown facts;

Is the single most tenacious play of a bulldog in my living memory.
Can be seen from the moon.
As great a “bottom 6” player in a GF victory as you have ever seen.
Kept out both the mongols and the mongrels.
One of the modern wonders of the world.

Topdog
08-10-2017, 09:14 AM
No not at all, even if he stays at his current level he has a spot in the team beyond 2018.

Go_Dogs
08-10-2017, 10:39 AM
The question is, does he have another level?

It would be great if he took on more responsibility and drove his performance up again given he's one of our more experienced defenders now, but if he were to plateau he probably has a role in our side for the foreseeable future. He's versatile with his ability to play tall and small, and while he needs to be a more consistent attacking presence, he's demonstrated he can do it.

ledge
08-10-2017, 12:01 PM
He plays his role and he is a best 22 player.
Reliable and gives his all.

Happy Days
08-10-2017, 12:36 PM
“The Great Wall of Biggs” has some largely unknown facts;

Is the single most tenacious play of a bulldog in my living memory.
Can be seen from the moon.
As great a “bottom 6” player in a GF victory as you have ever seen.
Kept out both the mongols and the mongrels.
One of the modern wonders of the world.

I prefer "Happy Smothers Day" but still wow what a 30 or so seconds.

Had him at $121 for the Norman, if only he had've kicked the goal at the end.

Happy Days
08-10-2017, 12:43 PM
Biggs is severely underrated if this is anything to go by. He can play small-to-tallish and is probably our best one-on-one defender. He also can move the ball, is a good (enough) kick, and has enough games of over 25 touches to show he can both accumulate and get into positions to be used for run and carry. His game against the Dons is testament to this; racked up ~30 touches and would have lead the metres gained, all the while blanketing (and routinely taking on and beating) McDonald-Tipungwuti.

He's a very important part of our side, and even if he goes no further than his current level I can't see how that won't remain the case. He's the same age as that guy we just signed for 3 years that we all apparently love.

Bulldog Revolution
08-10-2017, 03:56 PM
The question is, does he have another level?

It would be great if he took on more responsibility and drove his performance up again given he's one of our more experienced defenders now, but if he were to plateau he probably has a role in our side for the foreseeable future. He's versatile with his ability to play tall and small, and while he needs to be a more consistent attacking presence, he's demonstrated he can do it.

I guess that's part of what I'm asking - can he become more of a general play maker and organiser

If he can't then just being a reliable type can see a club look to replace you with players who can grow and assume those responsibilities

merantau
08-10-2017, 11:04 PM
“The Great Wall of Biggs” has some largely unknown facts;

Is the single most tenacious play of a bulldog in my living memory.
Can be seen from the moon.
As great a “bottom 6” player in a GF victory as you have ever seen.
Kept out both the mongols and the mongrels.
One of the modern wonders of the world.

Totally agree. From the moment Biggs charged down the kick to the moment Picken kicked the goal, 45 seconds elapsed. It was the most frenetic 45 seconds of football I've ever witnessed and Biggsie was manic and magnificent.

If someone could put a montage of stills from that action - "The Wall of Biggs" - and frame it, I would buy it. Just the best moments. Thrilling stuff.

KT31
08-10-2017, 11:43 PM
Many more profile players are performing a lot less than Biggsy, as others said under rated and valued.

jazzadogs
09-10-2017, 12:06 AM
Didn't miss a game in 2016.

Dropped off this year like most, but remained one of our best and most reliable defenders as evidenced by his best and fairest finish. I don't think he has to necessarily improve or change that much to remain best 22, he just needs to return to the 2016 form that made him an indispensable part of our defensive unit. He's in my starting back 6.

Bulldog4life
09-10-2017, 10:03 AM
Always have liked Biggsy. His run and carry will be even more important to us next season. Definitely in our best 22. I don't agree with the make or break question. He finished top 10 in the B & F.