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Mofra
27-11-2018, 01:10 PM
Given how unsettled our forwardline is, our versatility mantra and the new 6-in rules at centre bounces, the race for our 2019 goalkicking award seems wide open. So many players actually have legitimate claims to the title.

Gowers - the reigning champion, but will he spend more time up the ground in 2019?

Schache - Looms as our most important forward but set to spend more time as that link player due to his tank & workrate

Boyd - set to spend more time as a forward in 2019.

Dickson - very good forward if fit. Very big IF.

Lloyd - Gowers came from the clouds last year, could Lloyd do it this year?

Caverra - Ditto as per Lloyd. mature ager and will be aiming for games.

Greene - Statistically a very effective forward, albeit from a small sample size

Bont - Why not, he is not mortal anyway

Dale - the forgotten man. Can he bounce back?

Who takes out the award? We're not even sure how we set up this year.

Axe Man
27-11-2018, 01:17 PM
It would be great to have 6 or 7 players kick over 20 goals.

I will go with Lloyd kicking 37 goals.

bulldogtragic
27-11-2018, 01:23 PM
Tom Boyd, 40 goals.

If we play English & Trengove as well. With a rucking split something like 55% English, 30% JT, 15% Boyd. With Schache running up and back as a Nick Riewoldt style CHF. Giving room for Boyd and JT if both are up forward, or JT can drop back in the hole to help out our defenders. Let's play all these guys in the best positions/roles and see what happens.

Twodogs
27-11-2018, 01:44 PM
Bloody good question Mof. The usual suspects have changed with the introduction of Gowers and Schasche last year and Lloyd this year.


I will go with Tom Boyd with 77 goals but wouldn't be suprised if Josh Schasche got off the leash a few times and kicked bags of 6, 7, 8 or even 9 or 10 goals, so give Josh 30 or 40 as well. I think Lloyd will give more away and create more opportunitys gfor others to kick goals than he will kick goals himself.

Scraggers
27-11-2018, 02:12 PM
Schache - 43 goals

He is just about ready to set the scene alight :cool:

Axe Man
27-11-2018, 02:17 PM
Bloody good question Mof. The usual suspects have changed with the introduction of Gowers and Schasche last year and Lloyd this year.


I will go with Tom Boyd with 77 goals but wouldn't be suprised if Josh Schasche got off the leash a few times and kicked bags of 6, 7, 8 or even 9 or 10 goals, so give Josh 30 or 40 as well. I think Lloyd will give more away and create more opportunitys gfor others to kick goals than he will kick goals himself.

77 goals would win the Coleman most years, you can write your own ticket on Tom taking it out and you will be the only person on earth not surprised if Schache kicks 10 in a game.

Love your optimism, can I have some of what you're having?;)

chef
27-11-2018, 02:38 PM
Gowers with 45

bornadog
27-11-2018, 03:10 PM
Lloyd - 31

Greystache
27-11-2018, 03:36 PM
I think 30odd will probably win it so there's probably 4 or 5 who might do that.

I'll say Schache will 32

Rocket Science
27-11-2018, 05:57 PM
Going to deviate here and say the Bont's a very healthy candidate.

More midfield help, the fact we score by committee and our attack's a constant work in progress where we'll be tempted to default to him a lot as needed, and just that he's well, the Bont. It's also one of the few personal accolades he's yet to collect.

Bet against him, I dare you.

Twodogs
27-11-2018, 08:08 PM
77 goals would win the Coleman most years, you can write your own ticket on Tom taking it out and you will be the only person on earth not surprised if Schache kicks 10 in a game.

Love your optimism, can I have some of what you're having?;)

Mate, you can have as much as you can take! It's all free.

Bullies
27-11-2018, 09:13 PM
I think it will be an even spread and I am going with Cavarra to get 32. He loves a goal and playing a better of standard of footy will suit his game.

The Doctor
27-11-2018, 09:26 PM
It would be great to have 6 or 7 players kick over 20 goals.



Like 1985?

Beasley 105
Bamblett 51
McPherson 39
Edmond 38
Royal 37
Buhagier 36

If Daniels 17:17 or Sewell 14:21 had of kicked straight they might have joined them.

Even Hardie from a back pocket 13:18. If Honey had of kicked that from a forward pocket he would probably still be on the list!

boydogs
27-11-2018, 10:47 PM
Greene if he marks it closer to goal, not 50m out on the boundary
Dickson if he stays fit
Boyd if he plays forward
Lots of if's

AshMac
28-11-2018, 08:01 AM
Would love to see Cavarra kick 20+, shache 30. I agree just over 30 should tip the scales

Bulldog Joe
28-11-2018, 08:26 AM
Going to deviate here and say the Bont's a very healthy candidate.

More midfield help, the fact we score by committee and our attack's a constant work in progress where we'll be tempted to default to him a lot as needed, and just that he's well, the Bont. It's also one of the few personal accolades he's yet to collect.

Bet against him, I dare you.

I am on Bont.

Actually think more forward options will see Bont scoring from range on a regular basis.

He is the player on the list who is a genuine chance to score whenever he gets close to the 50. He will score several goals streaming out of the centre square at Docklands (Not sure I can call it the new name-- Could however see Bont earning the moniker of The Marvel at Marvel)

Axe Man
28-11-2018, 10:44 AM
Like 1985?

Beasley 105
Bamblett 51
McPherson 39
Edmond 38
Royal 37
Buhagier 36

If Daniels 17:17 or Sewell 14:21 had of kicked straight they might have joined them.

Even Hardie from a back pocket 13:18. If Honey had of kicked that from a forward pocket he would probably still be on the list!

I was thinking more recently, like 2008 for example:
Johnson 50
Akermanis 49
Welsh 43
Murphy 34
Hahn 34
Gia 33
Cooney 23

Plus another 5 players on 16-19.

SquirrelGrip
28-11-2018, 10:48 AM
Boyd 50
Bont 30
Dickson 30
Cav 25
Schache 25
Gowers 25

mjp
28-11-2018, 11:38 AM
My vote is for Easton Wood.

I have heard we will be trialling him as a forward over the pre-season.

Mofra
28-11-2018, 12:08 PM
My vote is for Easton Wood.

I have heard we will be trialling him as a forward over the pre-season.
Enjoy your perma-ban

BulldogBelle
28-11-2018, 12:53 PM
I would like to see Lewis Young up forward. Our most under-rated player in my opinion.

Twodogs
28-11-2018, 07:16 PM
My vote is for Easton Wood.

I have heard we will be trialling him as a forward over the pre-season.



You funny!

lemmon
29-11-2018, 03:18 PM
I'm going with Schache. He started to show some really good signs in the air last year, and he finishes his work.

A 40 goal year would be a really nice return for where he's at.

Dry Rot
30-11-2018, 12:12 AM
I'm going with Schache. He started to show some really good signs in the air last year, and he finishes his work.

A 40 goal year would be a really nice return for where he's at.

Agreed. 2019 will be a breakout year for Schache.

And Cavarra. Small but looks like a really forward prospect, ready to go in the AFL.

Ghost Dog
30-11-2018, 02:44 PM
Can't wait for the season to start. Billy Gowers will win.

Testekill
01-12-2018, 12:03 PM
Top three for me are

Schache
Gowers
Cavarra

Boyd could be in there if we have him training almost exclusively as a forward all preseason

merantau
01-12-2018, 04:44 PM
I would like to know how many goals and behinds we kicked in the last 3 seasons. Does anyone know?

westdog54
01-12-2018, 06:43 PM
I would like to know how many goals and behinds we kicked in the last 3 seasons. Does anyone know?

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/bullldogs/allgames.html#2018

2018 - 224.231 for, 300.227 against.
2017 - 260.297 for, 279.239 against.
2016 - 324.297 for, 278.227 against (This included four finals).

Go_Dogs
01-12-2018, 08:09 PM
Schache makes the most sense.

I wouldn't be surprised if some one like Dale or Lynch surprised.

westdog54
01-12-2018, 09:00 PM
Gowers for most goals.

Schache for most goal assists. I can see him getting on his bike, working up the ground and delivering bullets into the 50 this year.

merantau
01-12-2018, 09:40 PM
https://afltables.com/afl/teams/bullldogs/allgames.html#2018

2018 - 224.231 for, 300.227 against.
2017 - 260.297 for, 279.239 against.
2016 - 324.297 for, 278.227 against (This included four finals).

Huge drop off in scoring shots between 2016 and 2018. I'm not too fussed about who kicks the goals, I just want us to kick MORE goals. So, I'm wanting us to kick 300 goals in 22 rounds (13.6 goals a game). I'll be happy with that
I'll go for Tom Boyd to kick 44. Gowers 35, Schase 30, Dickson 30, Bont 30 and Bailey Smith 21.

westdog54
01-12-2018, 10:30 PM
Huge drop off in scoring shots between 2016 and 2018. I'm not too fussed about who kicks the goals, I just want us to kick MORE goals. So, I'm wanting us to kick 300 goals in 22 rounds (13.6 goals a game). I'll be happy with that
I'll go for Tom Boyd to kick 44. Gowers 35, Schase 30, Dickson 30, Bont 30 and Bailey Smith 21.

It's a horrendous drop off isn't it?

For the record we kicked 56.48 over the 3 finals so the drop off was nowhere near as significant.

merantau
02-12-2018, 06:59 PM
2016 - 268-249 = 517 scoring shots Home and Away
2018 - 224-231 = 455 scoring shots Home and Away
2017 - 260-297 = 557 scoring shots Home and Away

Vred
07-12-2018, 09:55 AM
My money here is on Gowers, one of the standouts for me this season was his goalkicking and 'bulldog' attitude, kids got some guts and a bit of fight in him, something I think we've missed over the last two seasons.

Lloyd might also surprise some people, someone I'm keen to see in action.

Boyd, I hope his played up forward and he can really show people what he can do, not a big fan of him playing ruck.

GVGjr
07-12-2018, 11:43 AM
My money here is on Gowers, one of the standouts for me this season was his goalkicking and 'bulldog' attitude, kids got some guts and a bit of fight in him, something I think we've missed over the last two seasons.

Lloyd might also surprise some people, someone I'm keen to see in action.

Boyd, I hope his played up forward and he can really show people what he can do, not a big fan of him playing ruck.

I just wonder if Gowers might play further up the ground next season. From a structure point of view it should be Schache or Boyd kicking the most goals but it wouldn't surprise me if Gowers top's the list again

Vred
07-12-2018, 12:11 PM
I just wonder if Gowers might play further up the ground next season. From a structure point of view it should be Schache or Boyd kicking the most goals but it wouldn't surprise me if Gowers top's the list again

I hope his not played further up, I like where he played last season especially in the last few games. I really hope they continue develop him into a goal kicking machine.

''GOWERS JACKIE CHAN''

Testekill
10-12-2018, 07:04 PM
I just wonder if Gowers might play further up the ground next season. From a structure point of view it should be Schache or Boyd kicking the most goals but it wouldn't surprise me if Gowers top's the list again

I think that Gowers will pinch hit in the middle at most.

Mofra
11-12-2018, 10:02 AM
I think that Gowers will pinch hit in the middle at most.
I know Bevo likes flexibility but I can't help but wonder if that was partly due to necessity rather than desire.
We were running out of fit midfielders for a while last year and we have significantly more running players on our list now, noting Lloyd played a lot of midfield in the VFL, Rhylee might build a tank as the season wears on and Bailey Smith would be setting himself for round one with Libba back and Dunkley a midfield lock. On top of that Williams made the switch last year and looked damn good doing it.

Then of course there's Richards who was recruited as a rebounding defender but looked fantastic on the wing.