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mjp
12-04-2019, 01:35 PM
1/. We are a really good MCG team.
2/. They CANNOT SCORE. I guess De Goey could get hold of us, but the rest of the forwards hold (or should hold) zero fears.
3/. They have a strong midfield do they? Well, good luck with that. Bont, Macrae, Libba and co say howdy...we have been really limiting possessions to opposition mids and the Collingwood guys NEED possessions to be effective.
4/. Our half forwards have not been amazing - but we have been good at restricting the R&C of opposition half-backs...without the mids on top, they are going to need drive from the likes of Crisp and they just wont get it.
5/. Grundy might have an advantage in the ruck, but if they couldn't win the clearances vs WC with him dominating, they are not going to win the clearances vs Libba.
6/. With Crisp running off and Howe looking to intercept, now is the time for Lloyd and Dickson to step right up...they will get heaps of space tonight and are both very good kicks for goal.

...feel free to add some more 'cos I'm riding the positivity bus today!

https://www.onallcylinders.com/2013/08/22/video-drag-racing-school-bus-makes-us-nostalgic/

Axe Man
12-04-2019, 01:43 PM
Roughy is a great bloke but average defender, Naughton will run rings around him.

mjp
12-04-2019, 01:56 PM
Roughy is a great bloke but average defender, Naughton will run rings around him.

That's a good one. Wish I had written it down!

Mofra
12-04-2019, 02:18 PM
Moore is playing with injury and is definitely not a 'hard' defender so I'm backing Schache in to run him around and leave space for Naughts and Gowers to lead into.

Gowers is a showtime player who will enjoy the bigger stage.

Outside of Mayne (who has improved vastly) forward pressure is not a Collingwood forte so rolling the dice with a small backline may well work for us. JJ needs to get on his bike and run Varcoe out of position.

We win games we're not expected to.

Adams and Treloar can turn the ball over under pressure so our smaller side should get some rebound possession chains going.

Ghost Dog
12-04-2019, 02:44 PM
If JJ is in full flight, I can't see any of their back six who can catch him.
Loss from last week will have stung a bit. Expect us to show more in the first.
Matthew Lloyd said Collingwood has the best midfield going. In which case he will be proven wrong......

I think Collingwood will be their usuall arrogant selves and underrate us. Gowers, Naughton, none of the new brigade give a rats about that. They just want to win.

Libba V Pendlebury should be a good show. My money is on the son of Tony to out-mongrel him.

bornadog
12-04-2019, 02:53 PM
We will beat them with cont.poss, at stoppages and clearances.

Who plays on DE Goey?

Axe Man
12-04-2019, 04:17 PM
Libba V Pendlebury should be a good show. My money is on the son of Tony to out-mongrel him.

My Mum could out mongrel Pendlebury.

westdog54
12-04-2019, 04:17 PM
Between JJ, Crozier, and Suckling our half-backs will have them on the run coming out of defence all night.

Having JJ back in the team frees up Caleb to push up to a wing, work his way forward and put pressure on their half backs when they're trying to rebound.

They don't have the defending smarts to hold all of Dickson, Gowers and Lloyd to account. One will get off the leash and do some damage.

mjp
12-04-2019, 05:07 PM
OK. I love this thread. Whoever started it must be a great bloke.

When's bounce down???

bornadog
12-04-2019, 05:11 PM
OK. I love this thread. Whoever started it must be a great bloke.

When's bounce down???

I love positive threads and I am positive we are going to win.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
12-04-2019, 08:36 PM
I remember the last time JJ came straight back in after a lengthy break....
Too bad Collingwood.

Bumper Bulldogs
12-04-2019, 10:11 PM
Because we are lucky

comrade
12-04-2019, 11:22 PM
Close thread.

Go_Dogs
13-04-2019, 07:24 AM
That was frustrating.

We didn’t deserve to win. Then we did. Then we didn’t.

Collingwood are one of the best teams and we played them off a 5 day break at their ground. We put up a good fight.

Ghost Dog
13-04-2019, 10:22 AM
A 5 day break, with that many errors, and that many young players? We came close given all that.

Ghost Dog
13-04-2019, 10:24 AM
OK. I love this thread. Whoever started it must be a great bloke.

When's bounce down???
MJP, ( a great bloke! ) the loss will remain but the optimism remains. A lot to look forward to. We haven't had a tall forward like Naughton clunking huge marks like that in a long, long time. Smith looks like a hungry hound. JJ is back. Lots of ticked boxes. Just these errors and accuracy continue to rain on our parade.

The bulldog tragician
13-04-2019, 10:49 AM
This thread could be renamed: We should have beaten Collingwood because...

The factors Mjp identified were all correct. I think the 5 day break was ultimately the killer, added to the fact that our hard work never led to a comfortable buffer

GVGjr
13-04-2019, 10:49 AM
A 5 day break, with that many errors, and that many young players? We came close given all that.

I think there is certainly something to the 5 day break but I remain convinced that we can't use the excuse of having a young list when we lose a game given 1) we didn't lose the game because of the young players and 2) we had some more experienced players we elected to overlook.

There was a lack of composure at critical times in the last quarter and perhaps a bit of fatigue because of the 5 day break but somehow we played well enough to still be in a position to win the game.

I don't like losing but it was still and encouraging performance.

Topdog
13-04-2019, 12:55 PM
I think we ran out of puff at the end and allowed Cox to have too much influence in the second half

bornadog
13-04-2019, 01:40 PM
I think we ran out of puff at the end and allowed Cox to have too much influence in the second half

More like for ten minutes in the last

bornadog
13-04-2019, 01:41 PM
We will beat them with cont.poss, at stoppages and clearances.

We did for three quarters then lost in these areas in the last. Ran out of puff in my opinion.

HOSE B ROMERO
13-04-2019, 02:58 PM
I think we will beat Collingwood tonight because we have great memories of beating them there. Hello Billy Kolyniuk and 'that' goal in 1990. And Monty's efforts after Brodie Holland said hello in the 2006 elimination final.

HOSE B ROMERO
13-04-2019, 03:01 PM
Oh what... ok well i guess the signs were there. Hawkins doing his knee in '86 and Murphy doing his when Rocca tackled him. Hate the pies..

westdog54
14-04-2019, 09:22 AM
We did for three quarters then lost in these areas in the last. Ran out of puff in my opinion.

The 'ran out of puff' bit isn't washing with me as it is with some others, for two reasons:

1) We finished strongly the last two matches and were able to steady in the last 5 minutes against Sydney; and
2) Collingwood were down a rotation all night with Mayne off the ground.

We were good enough to come over the top of them. We simply didn't execute.

bornadog
14-04-2019, 04:08 PM
The 'ran out of puff' bit isn't washing with me as it is with some others, for two reasons:

1) We finished strongly the last two matches and were able to steady in the last 5 minutes against Sydney; and
2) Collingwood were down a rotation all night with Mayne off the ground.

We were good enough to come over the top of them. We simply didn't execute.

Sydney game was the first for the year?

5 day break is very short between games.

Twodogs
19-04-2019, 12:37 PM
I think we will beat Collingwood tonight because we have great memories of beating them there. Hello Billy Kolyniuk and 'that' goal in 1990. And Monty's efforts after Brodie Holland said hello in the 2006 elimination final.

I always have a bit of a giggle whenever I hear what a dertimined footballer Graeme Wright was and how he was never beaten one on one or in a contest (I heard that fool Malthouse say it as recently as wednesday). Wright was good and all that but that day Billy ran around him like he just wasn't standing there.

bornadog
19-04-2019, 09:00 PM
I always have a bit of a giggle whenever I hear what a dertimined footballer Graeme Wright was and how he was never beaten one on one or in a contest (I heard that fool Malthouse say it as recently as wednesday). Wright was good and all that but that day Billy ran around him like he just wasn't standing there.

Also one of the great passages of play from the backline - what a kick from Leon Cameron.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCBGfn-WFw

Ghost Dog
19-04-2019, 09:16 PM
Also one of the great passages of play from the backline - what a kick from Leon Cameron.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCBGfn-WFw

I fear for the blood circulation of players wearing shorts that tight....
That vision is classic. I heard that a lot of Channel 7 footage has been lost or damaged. It needs to be archived as cultural history of significance.