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1eyedog
19-07-2020, 09:51 PM
https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2020/2020/07/18/early-edition-essendon-v-western-bulldogs-good-bad-and-ugly2/

jeemak
19-07-2020, 10:26 PM
The link led me to an error page "Resource Limit Reached".

Would read again, thanks for posting!

1eyedog
19-07-2020, 10:41 PM
Getting the same msg the site is down for an hour or so.

Bulldog Joe
20-07-2020, 07:32 AM
https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2020/2020/07/18/early-edition-essendon-v-western-bulldogs-good-bad-and-ugly2/

Terrific read.

Actually tells you some things you might miss yourself. The bit on Darcy Parish was very insightful.

1eyedog
20-07-2020, 10:13 AM
Terrific read.

Actually tells you some things you might miss yourself. The bit on Darcy Parish was very insightful.

Thought the same always enjoy MP perspective. Went very hard on Parish but he was a high draft pick and they see him as a future captain so rightfully pointed out some flaws in his game that need tidying up. As per most other articles out the back of Friday night's game I also found it slightly essington-centric but the Tim English love was satisfying, particularly reference to his second efforts. Made me appreciate his game even more.

hujsh
20-07-2020, 02:22 PM
Video in the article of non existent shepherd.


https://youtu.be/tPI95c87StI

bulldogsthru&thru
20-07-2020, 02:46 PM
I don't agree with the commentary (from ch 7 idiots) and some others that Macrae went down too easily from the Devon Smith bump. Firstly, Jack was buggered as he had run himself into the ground all night. Secondly he had no idea the bump was coming. Yeah there wasn't much in the bump but when you're buggered and you get knocked unexpectedly from the side, you're gonna lose your balance. Third, Smith is an idiot (hey he was trained to be one with the plastics. Is there a worse combination than a Giant and Bomber? Hello Sheeds) for doing the bump RIGHT in front of the umpire and judging by Jack's reaction, it was the 2nd time he had done it to him. Jack may have flailed his arms once he went to ground but that was because Smith obviously had gotten away with it the first time.

Anyway, I grew in confidence at half time once I heard Rutten speak. He was pleased with their run and carry but thought the one thing that would get them on top would be if they lifted their contested ball efforts. Not sure he realises what team he's coaching.

bornadog
20-07-2020, 03:37 PM
I don't agree with the commentary (from ch 7 idiots) and some others that Macrae went down too easily from the Devon Smith bump. Firstly, Jack was buggered as he had run himself into the ground all night. Secondly he had no idea the bump was coming. Yeah there wasn't much in the bump but when you're buggered and you get knocked unexpectedly from the side, you're gonna lose your balance. Third, Smith is an idiot (hey he was trained to be one with the plastics. Is there a worse combination than a Giant and Bomber? Hello Sheeds) for doing the bump RIGHT in front of the umpire and judging by Jack's reaction, it was the 2nd time he had done it to him. Jack may have flailed his arms once he went to ground but that was because Smith obviously had gotten away with it the first time.

Anyway, I grew in confidence at half time once I heard Rutten speak. He was pleased with their run and carry but thought the one thing that would get them on top would be if they lifted their contested ball efforts. Not sure he realises what team he's coaching.

Yeah, I agree, Macrae was not expecting to be bumped like that and looked like he lost his balance. What a stupid thing to do.

I have never rated Devon Smith, hardly ever touches the ball for a midfielder. Averages less than 20 touches per game, which is poor for a midfielder.

hujsh
20-07-2020, 03:52 PM
Yeah, I agree, Macrae was not expecting to be bumped like that and looked like he lost his balance. What a stupid thing to do.

I have never rated Devon Smith, hardly ever touches the ball for a midfielder. Averages less than 20 touches per game, which is poor for a midfielder.

Is he a pure mid? I thought he played significant time forward.

bornadog
20-07-2020, 03:57 PM
Is he a pure mid? I thought he played significant time forward.

I have always known him as a mid at Essendon, but I could be wrong.

EasternWest
20-07-2020, 03:58 PM
Yeah, I agree, Macrae was not expecting to be bumped like that and looked like he lost his balance. What a stupid thing to do.

Macrae was definitely bumped hard enough to knock him down, but also definitely put some mustard on it. Which I have no problem with.

It's a moot point anyway whether he dramatised his fall. If you're stupid enough to lay that bump on, you deserve a 50 every time.

soupman
20-07-2020, 04:14 PM
Smith rotates heavily between a high forward and an midfield position. The bump was dumb, Macrae probably went down a touch easy but it's the old "if you're going to do that you live with the consequences", just ask Brian Lake.

Also with regard to posting the whole article on here, I'm not sure we should be doing that for small independent sites like the Mongrel Punt. If it was just extracts sure, and if it was something like the Herald Sun (who have been frankly disgraceful this year in so many ways) I think it'd be fine but to post an entire in depth article from an independent site denying them clicks i don't think is right, especially when it is the exact kind of content we actually want to encourage (I know people had issues with the link, but that seemed like a temporary issue).

bornadog
20-07-2020, 04:22 PM
Smith rotates heavily between a high forward and an midfield position. The bump was dumb, Macrae probably went down a touch easy but it's the old "if you're going to do that you live with the consequences", just ask Brian Lake.

Also with regard to posting the whole article on here, I'm not sure we should be doing that for small independent sites like the Mongrel Punt. If it was just extracts sure, and if it was something like the Herald Sun (who have been frankly disgraceful this year in so many ways) I think it'd be fine but to post an entire in depth article from an independent site denying them clicks i don't think is right, especially when it is the exact kind of content we actually want to encourage (I know people had issues with the link, but that seemed like a temporary issue).

Every article we post must have the link inserted as it acknowledges the author and publisher.

Bulldog Joe
20-07-2020, 05:08 PM
Smith rotates heavily between a high forward and an midfield position. The bump was dumb, Macrae probably went down a touch easy but it's the old "if you're going to do that you live with the consequences", just ask Brian Lake.

Also with regard to posting the whole article on here, I'm not sure we should be doing that for small independent sites like the Mongrel Punt. If it was just extracts sure, and if it was something like the Herald Sun (who have been frankly disgraceful this year in so many ways) I think it'd be fine but to post an entire in depth article from an independent site denying them clicks i don't think is right, especially when it is the exact kind of content we actually want to encourage (I know people had issues with the link, but that seemed like a temporary issue).

I agree with that.

I have decided I will subscribe.

GVGjr
20-07-2020, 05:23 PM
Smith rotates heavily between a high forward and an midfield position. The bump was dumb, Macrae probably went down a touch easy but it's the old "if you're going to do that you live with the consequences", just ask Brian Lake.

Also with regard to posting the whole article on here, I'm not sure we should be doing that for small independent sites like the Mongrel Punt. If it was just extracts sure, and if it was something like the Herald Sun (who have been frankly disgraceful this year in so many ways) I think it'd be fine but to post an entire in depth article from an independent site denying them clicks i don't think is right, especially when it is the exact kind of content we actually want to encourage (I know people had issues with the link, but that seemed like a temporary issue).

I agree, small sites need people logging on, I've tidied up and removed the (outstanding) content copied onto WOOF

bornadog
20-07-2020, 05:24 PM
Every article we post must have the link inserted as it acknowledges the author and publisher.


I agree with that.

I have decided I will subscribe.

Didn't realise a subscription only site - yeah fair enough, we can't pinch content from small independents.

Bulldog Joe
20-07-2020, 05:31 PM
Didn't realise a subscription only site - yeah fair enough, we can't pinch content from small independents.

I believe you can view without subscription.

I just decided they were good enough to support.

Axe Man
20-07-2020, 05:50 PM
Didn't realise a subscription only site - yeah fair enough, we can't pinch content from small independents.

It's not a subscription only site. Subscribers get earlier access to articles plus some exclusive content I believe.

I have posted their articles before, sorry but wasn't aware posting the freely available articles was an issue. I guess they may generate adverting revenue from clicks so will refrain in the future.

1eyedog
20-07-2020, 05:57 PM
Yep I've subscribed always a great write up.

1eyedog
20-07-2020, 06:03 PM
Is he a pure mid? I thought he played significant time forward.

Bit of a Mr Fix-it plays as a defensive forward, midfield and deep back as a small depends where they need him. I don't mind him as a player.

bornadog
20-07-2020, 06:05 PM
It's not a subscription only site. Subscribers get earlier access to articles plus some exclusive content I believe.

I have posted their articles before, sorry but wasn't aware posting the freely available articles was an issue. I guess they may generate adverting revenue from clicks so will refrain in the future.

Yeah, I am not sure on protocols either, but I guess if they are freely available should be ok.

WBFC4FFC
20-07-2020, 06:25 PM
I don't agree with the commentary (from ch 7 idiots) and some others that Macrae went down too easily from the Devon Smith bump. Firstly, Jack was buggered as he had run himself into the ground all night. Secondly he had no idea the bump was coming. Yeah there wasn't much in the bump but when you're buggered and you get knocked unexpectedly from the side, you're gonna lose your balance. Third, Smith is an idiot (hey he was trained to be one with the plastics. Is there a worse combination than a Giant and Bomber? Hello Sheeds) for doing the bump RIGHT in front of the umpire and judging by Jack's reaction, it was the 2nd time he had done it to him. Jack may have flailed his arms once he went to ground but that was because Smith obviously had gotten away with it the first time.

Anyway, I grew in confidence at half time once I heard Rutten speak. He was pleased with their run and carry but thought the one thing that would get them on top would be if they lifted their contested ball efforts. Not sure he realises what team he's coaching.

Yeah, Macrae held the two fingers up. A minute later Smith is trying to justify to Macrae that he is lucky. That was funny.

jeemak
20-07-2020, 07:03 PM
Yeah, Macrae held the two fingers up. A minute later Smith is trying to justify to Macrae that he is lucky. That was funny.

Yep, Jacko clearly in his head. There was the downfield incident earlier that Jack milked, then the bump that gave away the fifty.

Smith arguing with the person kind of reminded me of an entitled twit kid complaining how things aren't fair. Nice finish from him in the pocket though, I'd have him at the Dogs in a heartbeat.

ledge
20-07-2020, 07:49 PM
Smith rotates heavily between a high forward and an midfield position. The bump was dumb, Macrae probably went down a touch easy but it's the old "if you're going to do that you live with the consequences", just ask Brian Lake.

Also with regard to posting the whole article on here, I'm not sure we should be doing that for small independent sites like the Mongrel Punt. If it was just extracts sure, and if it was something like the Herald Sun (who have been frankly disgraceful this year in so many ways) I think it'd be fine but to post an entire in depth article from an independent site denying them clicks i don't think is right, especially when it is the exact kind of content we actually want to encourage (I know people had issues with the link, but that seemed like a temporary issue).

But you click on the address and it takes you to the article so it’s still a click to them.

soupman
20-07-2020, 07:51 PM
But you click on the address and it takes you to the article so it’s still a click to them.

The article was originally posted in full over the course of maybe 4 posts. With a link admittedly, but kind of redundant when the article is all there anyway.

Sedat
20-07-2020, 09:09 PM
Reading about Essendon's small and weak depth midfield always takes me back to Matthew Lloyd saying that Libba wasn't worth trading for in 2017 as he wouldn't get a game in Essendon's midfield. What a bell-end.

comrade
20-07-2020, 09:12 PM
Reading about Essendon's small and week depth midfield always takes me back to Matthew Lloyd saying that Libba wasn't worth trading for in 2017 as he wouldn't get a game in Essendon's midfield. What a bell-end.

May Essendon's media sycophants long continue to hype up that bunch of squibs.

Bulldog Joe
20-07-2020, 10:32 PM
Reading about Essendon's small and week depth midfield always takes me back to Matthew Lloyd saying that Libba wasn't worth trading for in 2017 as he wouldn't get a game in Essendon's midfield. What a bell-end.

That's why Lloyd is well suited to a media gig that most of us don't see.

Knowledge and understanding is not a requirement. Not even an optional extra as it would show up the rest of the incompetents.