Who is the door open for?

[bulldogtragic]

I had, probably all of us had, Toby in our best team going into finals. His cruel injury opens the door to another player to lock themselves into that spot heading into September. The high half forward, forward and some minutes on ball if needed. So who should get the opportunity?

- Garcia
- Richards (positional change)
- Lipinski (not midfield or wing)
- Scott
- West
- Wallis
- Hannan
- Jong
- Cavarra

- None. Rotate if/when Libba, Dunks & Treloar are fit with Bonts & Smith

[comrade]

Garcia. Kid is a pressure beast and will fit right in to a finals side.

[Bulldog Joe]

I certainly like the look of Garcia

[DOG GOD]

Garcia. Kid is a pressure beast and will fit right in to a finals side.

Agree. 6 of those I don’t wanna see in the first final.

[DOG GOD]

I had, probably all of us had, Toby in our best team going into finals. His cruel injury opens the door to another player to lock themselves into that spot heading into September. The high half forward, forward and some minutes on ball if needed. So who should get the opportunity?

- Garcia
- Richards (positional change)
- Lipinski (not midfield or wing)
- Scott
- West
- Wallis
- Hannan
- Jong
- Cavarra

- None. Rotate if/when Libba, Dunks & Treloar are fit with Bonts & Smith

I don’t wanna see any of that bottom 6 near the first final.

[jeemak]

I think in form all of those listed, with exception to Cavarra possibly, could have an impact if called upon.

I'm concerned about Jong's body, like most would be, and I guess when it comes to Cavarra I just can't see how he comes in with confidence and ability to deliver.

Hopefully we won't have to worry about it too much and have a full complement of midfielders to choose from.

[DOG GOD]

I think in form all of those listed, with exception to Cavarra possibly, could have an impact if called upon.

I'm concerned about Jong's body, like most would be, and I guess when it comes to Cavarra I just can't see how he comes in with confidence and ability to deliver.

Hopefully we won't have to worry about it too much and have a full complement of midfielders to choose from.

Problem is, none are showing any form, except Garcia and Richards who are playing seniors.

[jeemak]

Problem is, none are showing any form, except Garcia and Richards who are playing seniors.

Sure, but form comes and goes. By the time finals roll around those two could struggle and others could be playing better than they have been to date.

[bornadog]

If we take yesterdays team and then assume Treloar, Libba, Martin, and Wood are fit for finals then who comes in and who goes out.

Yesterdays team.

Marcus Bontempelli
Bailey Smith
Jackson Macrae
Bailey Dale
Lachlan Hunter
Caleb Daniel
Josh Dunkley
Ed Richards
Taylor Duryea
Alex Keath
Bailey Williams
Riley Garcia
Jason Johannisen
Josh Bruce
Timothy English
Roarke Smith
Lachlan McNeil
Hayden Crozier
Aaron Naughton
Cody Weightman
Jamarra U-Hagan
Zaine Cordy

[comrade]

If we take yesterdays team and then assume Treloar, Martin, and Wood are fit for finals then who comes in and who goes out.

Yesterdays team.

Marcus Bontempelli
Bailey Smith
Jackson Macrae
Bailey Dale
Lachlan Hunter
Caleb Daniel
Josh Dunkley
Ed Richards
Taylor Duryea
Alex Keath
Bailey Williams
Riley Garcia
Jason Johannisen
Josh Bruce
Timothy English
Roarke Smith
Lachlan McNeil
Hayden Crozier
Aaron Naughton
Cody Weightman
Jamarra U-Hagan
Zaine Cordy

Don't forget Libba.

[FrediKanoute]

Out:

Crozier
Smith R
JUH
Garcia

In:

Wood
Martin
Treloar
Libba

Tough on the guys going out, but this is where we are at. Of the above Garcia is the unluckiest, JUH it will depend on how he goes for the next few weeks, but if he nails the 3rd tall forward over the next few weeks then you have to say Martin becomes redundant.

[josie]

I’ll admit I’ve got a soft spot for Cav. I think Cavarra has been pretty good in vfl games I’ve seen including this year. Can play mid & forward & wing. Ben is not gifted with top speed and short though and we’ve got a few ahead of him.I think he is a smart player, reasonably quick of mind/footy smart, team oriented too and I’m sorry he hasn’t been given half the chances of a few others. With our deep midfield and Garcia and Weightman doing so well I cannot see him getting a look in though.

West was so very promising a year or so ago. Unfortunately just has not taken his chances at senior level this year. Still think he might make it though. Again on the short side and not quick however tough as. Will be interesting to see what happens with West. For his sake and for his dad (whom I loved as a player) I hope he makes it and that it is with us.

I think Garcia and Richards are best 22 already unless Treloar comes good and then I suppose that might push Garcia out.

Scott or McNeill on the fringes….

Love Jongy but fear his body will breakdown in a final.

I think Lipinski and Wally sadly are not likely to play again for us unless there are a lot of injuries or we rest players.

Enough has been said about Hannan.

So out of that list I’d agree with others that Garcia could be that pressure player, with Richards already a lock in back half.

[bulldogtragic]

If we take yesterdays team and then assume Treloar, Martin, and Wood are fit for finals then who comes in and who goes out.

Yesterdays team.

Marcus Bontempelli
Bailey Smith
Jackson Macrae
Bailey Dale
Lachlan Hunter
Caleb Daniel
Josh Dunkley
Ed Richards
Taylor Duryea
Alex Keath
Bailey Williams
Riley Garcia - LIBBA
Jason Johannisen
Josh Bruce
Timothy English
Roarke Smith - TRELOAR
Lachlan McNeil - MARTIN
Hayden Crozier - WOOD
Aaron Naughton
Cody Weightman
Jamarra U-Hagan
Zaine Cordy - GARDNER


B: Wood Gardner Duryea
HB: Dale Keath Williams
C: Hunter Dunkley Macrae
HF: JJ Naughton Treloar
F: Weightman Bruce JUH
R: English Bonts Libba
Int: Martin Daniel Richards B. Smith
Emer: Cordy Young Garcia McNeil

Possibly also VDM for JJ

[josie]

Also wonder if Woody’s body will hold up but he is a way better option than Crozier at present.

[DOG GOD]

Out:

Crozier
Smith R
JUH
Garcia

In:

Wood
Martin
Treloar
Libba

Tough on the guys going out, but this is where we are at. Of the above Garcia is the unluckiest, JUH it will depend on how he goes for the next few weeks, but if he nails the 3rd tall forward over the next few weeks then you have to say Martin becomes redundant.

Pretty good Fred

[bornadog]

Don't forget Libba.

whoops

[bornadog]

Out:

Crozier
Smith R
JUH
Garcia

In:

Wood
Martin
Treloar
Libba

Tough on the guys going out, but this is where we are at. Of the above Garcia is the unluckiest, JUH it will depend on how he goes for the next few weeks, but if he nails the 3rd tall forward over the next few weeks then you have to say Martin becomes redundant.

Would you consider Garcia instead of McNeil?

[Bumper Bulldogs]

B: Wood Gardner Duryea
HB: Dale Keath Williams
C: Hunter Dunkley Macrae
HF: JJ Naughton Treloar
F: Weightman Bruce JUH
R: English Bonts Libba
Int: Martin Daniel Richards B. Smith
Emer: Cordy Young Garcia McNeil

Possibly also VDM for JJ

I like this a lot. The only improvement I would see is VDM and Garcia both in for JJ and JUH

[bornadog]

I like this a lot. The only improvement I would see is VDM and Garcia both in for JJ and JUH

I prefer JJ for his experience.

[The bulldog tragician]

I’ll admit I’ve got a soft spot for Cav. I think Cavarra has been pretty good in vfl games I’ve seen including this year. Can play mid & forward & wing. Ben is not gifted with top speed and short though and we’ve got a few ahead of him.I think he is a smart player, reasonably quick of mind/footy smart, team oriented too and I’m sorry he hasn’t been given half the chances of a few others. With our deep midfield and Garcia and Weightman doing so well I cannot see him getting a look in though.

West was so very promising a year or so ago. Unfortunately just has not taken his chances at senior level this year. Still think he might make it though. Again on the short side and not quick however tough as. Will be interesting to see what happens with West. For his sake and for his dad (whom I loved as a player) I hope he makes it and that it is with us.

I think Garcia and Richards are best 22 already unless Treloar comes good and then I suppose that might push Garcia out.

Scott or McNeill on the fringes….

Love Jongy but fear his body will breakdown in a final.

I think Lipinski and Wally sadly are not likely to play again for us unless there are a lot of injuries or we rest players.

Enough has been said about Hannan.

So out of that list I’d agree with others that Garcia could be that pressure player, with Richards already a lock in back half.

I think Treloar might just shade Garcia, Josie :)

I wonder if Jamarra will get through the season. He made a couple of errors in the last quarter, fatigue I think. He’s still very undeveloped. If Martin returns, and English becomes the 3rd tall, his spot is in jeopardy.

Crozier makes way for Wood. Libba is an automatic inclusion.

I guess those on shaky ground for best 22 will be McNeil, Garcia, and R Smith. We have Lipinski, Wallis, Jong all a long way back. The romantic in me dreams of Jong having a Clay Smith style battering ram cameo in the finals. God that guy has suffered, but it’s so hard to see him coming back.

So much can happen, guys can lose form quickly….even Weightman, if he has another couple of ineffective weeks, is not a certainty if others begin snapping at his heels. Let’s hope we have some of the nicer kind of selection problems towards the pointy end with a fresh and healthy list.

[soupman]

Out:

Crozier
Smith R
JUH
Garcia

In:

Wood
Martin
Treloar
Libba

Tough on the guys going out, but this is where we are at. Of the above Garcia is the unluckiest, JUH it will depend on how he goes for the next few weeks, but if he nails the 3rd tall forward over the next few weeks then you have to say Martin becomes redundant.

Nailed it.

I would argue that the 2 small forward pressure spots go to whoever is most in form out of JJ, McNeill, Garcia, Vandermeer and Scott and none of them really have shown they own that spot ahead of all the others.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

I prefer JJ for his experience.

I just don’t see his out put and pressure now. At least two young bucks will have a crack and be enthusiastic about the game.

[bulldogtragic]

I like this a lot. The only improvement I would see is VDM and Garcia both in for JJ and JUH

I wanted Garcia in, but if May & Lever go to Bruce & Naughton, I’d like another full time tall threat for Petty and not give Lever the chance to sag off and intercept easily. Jamarra in my mind is a taller medium forward who I have above Hannan & Wally. English down there for parts of a quarter stretches them. Yet Naughton, Jamarra, Weightman and JJ or VDM are at 3.07 seconds or less over 20m. So there’s plenty of speed to match the height. I think we need an extra target if May/Lever shut down our best two KPFs. Jamarra could be that player while having the speed to not make us slow. He’s a rare set of skill this lad.

[comrade]

I wanted Garcia in, but if May & Lever go to Bruce & Naughton, I’d like another full time tall threat for Petty and not give Lever the chance to sag off and intercept easily. Jamarra in my mind is a taller medium forward who I have above Hannan & Wally. English down there for parts of a quarter stretches them. Yet Naughton, Jamarra, Weightman and JJ or VDM are at 3.07 seconds or less over 20m. So there’s plenty of speed to match the height. I think we need an extra target if May/Lever shut down our best two KPFs. Jamarra could be that player while having the speed to not make us slow. He’s a rare set of skill this lad.

Hawthorn went really tall against Melbourne and were able to get the ball to the ground inside 50 because of it. i hope we were watching closely and adjust our method to suit.

[Bulldog Joe]

I think the best 22 is also dependent on opposition.

As it stands I think JUH has a position that he retains until he shows he doesn't.

I also like what Garcia brings.

Against Melbourne (particularly Lever) I like the idea of Cordy as the defensive forward. Who knows what his knee might manage when the real pressure is on.

[SonofScray]

I had, probably all of us had, Toby in our best team going into finals. His cruel injury opens the door to another player to lock themselves into that spot heading into September. The high half forward, forward and some minutes on ball if needed. So who should get the opportunity?

- Garcia
- Richards (positional change)
- Lipinski (not midfield or wing)
- Scott
- West
- Wallis
- Hannan
- Jong
- Cavarra

- None. Rotate if/when Libba, Dunks & Treloar are fit with Bonts & Smith

Garcia, Wally and Jong would be my shortlist from there for the role presented in the OP.

Liking what Garcia brings to the contest. Jong is the one I’d trust to give us something if the chips were down.