AFL Game Day R10 2023

[Eastdog]

Round 10


Friday, May 19
Port Adelaide vs. Melbourne Adelaide Oval 7:50pm Seven/Fox


Saturday, May 20
North Melbourne vs. Sydney Swans Marvel Stadium 1:45pm Fox Footy
Western Bulldogs vs. Adelaide Crows Mars Stadium 2:10pm Fox Footy
Fremantle vs. Geelong Cats Optus Stadium 4:35pm Fox Footy
Brisbane Lions vs. Gold Coast Suns The Gabba 7:30pm Fox Footy
Essendon vs. Richmond MCG 7:40pm Seven/Fox


Sunday, May 21
Hawthorn vs. West Coast Eagles UTAS Stadium 1:10pm Fox Footy
Carlton vs. Collingwood MCG 3:20pm Seven/Fox
GWS Giants vs. St Kilda GIANTS Stadium 4:40pm Fox Footy

[Eastdog]

Bump

[Bulldog Joe]

The sense of entitlement from Collingwood surfaces with Mason Cox.

Complaining that they play Carlton on a Sunday as if the entire fixture should be based around Collingwood.

They aren't happy with 80% preferential treatment.

[azabob]

Gee whiz Horne-Francis is a very good footballer.

[macca]

Gee whiz Horne-Francis is a very good footballer.

that contested mark he took was very strong when it was past his shoulders and he copped a solid bump in the 2nd quarter. His really starting to standup.

[kruder]

Who would you prefer as a Forward/ Second Ruck. Lobb or Grundy?

[jeemak]

Who would you prefer as a Forward/ Second Ruck. Lobb or Grundy?

How much does price come into the equation? What would their relative price for each club be? Probably closer than we might think.

On pure football I think I'd take Grundy, in fact I wanted him.

[jeemak]

Someone needs to tell Port that we're the only team that gets run ons against them.

[EasternWest]

Gee whiz Horne-Francis is a very good footballer.

Legit good. He's like the ghost of Jack Watts reborn without fear.

[Bulldog Joe]

Port are looking formidable.
Very good young mids in Butters, Rozee and Horne-Francis

[angelopetraglia]

Port nailed the 2018 AFL Draft.

#5 Rozee

#12 Butters

[jeemak]

Port nailed the 2018 AFL Draft.

#5 Rozee

#12 Butters

Yeah they're pretty good young players.

[Dry Rot]

Wow, what a good wet weather game to watch, even though both sides were undermanned with Port without Dixon and Melbourne without Schache.

[Dry Rot]

And people that boo Horne-Francis can get ****ed, he's a terrific young player.

[Happy Days]

How much does price come into the equation? What would their relative price for each club be? Probably closer than we might think.

On pure football I think I'd take Grundy, in fact I wanted him.

I wanted Grundy on the basis that I’d given up on Tim as the first ruck and wanted him to be the Lobb.

I’m still not convinced it’s not a better mix but I am convinced that Tim is a first ruck. Who knows. I’m happy enough with the choice we made.

[Happy Days]

Impressive win from Port. Do they ever play an away game this year or nah?

[jeemak]

I wanted Grundy on the basis that I?d given up on Tim as the first ruck and wanted him to be the Lobb.

I?m still not convinced it?s not a better mix but I am convinced that Tim is a first ruck. Who knows. I?m happy enough with the choice we made.

I just look at it from the point of view that we'd have excellent ruck cover and tipping Tim's balance a bit towards a little more forward time would net us more goals, even if he was technically our first ruck.

I'm also still worried we'll lose Tim to the WA sides at some point.

Having said all of that, I think by the end of the year we'll be happy we've secured Lobb. I've never understood the negativity around making our list stronger for the right price, and he does that. We get caught up in thinking about whether we need this or that type of player, when the answer is we should just get the best players we can get to make us better across the board.

[jeemak]

Impressive win from Port. Do they ever play an away game this year or nah?

That would tear them apart.

[lemmon]

Only saw bits and pieces last night but whenever I looked up it seemed like Butters was doing something exceptional.

[GVGjr]

And people that boo Horne-Francis can get ****ed, he's a terrific young player.

He certainly is. No wonder he went #1

[The Doctor]

Butters was amazing. A game for the ages.

Anyone got a spare kitchen sink to throw at him? OOC in 2024.

[GVGjr]

Butters was amazing. A game for the ages.

Anyone got a spare kitchen sink to throw at him? OOC in 2024.

His skills really stood out. Fantastic player.

[angelopetraglia]

Butters was amazing. A game for the ages.

Anyone got a spare kitchen sink to throw at him? OOC in 2024.

He is from Bacchus Marsh and the Western Jets, so from our stomping ground.

[GVGjr]

He is from Bacchus Marsh and the Western Jets, so from our stomping ground.

And I think he's a dogs supporter as well.

[angelopetraglia]

And I think he's a dogs supporter as well.

Can confirm "Having grown up in Melbourne's inner west — and barracking for the blue-collar Western Bulldogs by following his father Wayne" Link:https://thewest.com.au/sport/port-adelaide-power/zak-butters-did-not-flinch-when-his-first-big-test-came-with-port-adelaide-ng-d1e7c0ec7e53e59d9db77656bece509a

[EasternWest]

He is from Bacchus Marsh and the Western Jets, so from our stomping ground.

So I guess what you're saying is a coa$tal life$tyle awaits.

[azabob]

Port nailed the 2018 AFL Draft.

#5 Rozee

#12 Butters

Duursma was also selected in the same draft at #19 who has been in and out of the team but I think he will end up a very good footballer.

That year they traded out Wingard, Polac and Pittard which gave them those top end picks.

Both Adelaide clubs have very good list management teams.

From what i've seen they have also invested very heavily in the draft in the past 2 years so they have a bunch of youngsters coming through.

If your interested have a listen to this interview a few weeks back https://omny.fm/shows/gettable/port-adelaide-gm-of-footy-chris-davies

[azabob]

I just look at it from the point of view that we'd have excellent ruck cover and tipping Tim's balance a bit towards a little more forward time would net us more goals, even if he was technically our first ruck.

I'm also still worried we'll lose Tim to the WA sides at some point.

Having said all of that, I think by the end of the year we'll be happy we've secured Lobb. I've never understood the negativity around making our list stronger for the right price, and he does that. We get caught up in thinking about whether we need this or that type of player, when the answer is we should just get the best players we can get to make us better across the board.

You and I both know Tim was never going to play more gametime forward. Lobb is a better forward than Grundy.

It will be interesting to see what English does.

Fremantle seem stocked for rucks with Darcy and Jackson. For him to go to Fremantle one would assume Darcy would have to come back to Victoria.

West Coast seems an obvious fit; but does Tim want to go and play for a club that is rebuilding and still seem a good 3 years off challenging.

[hujsh]

Obviously not watching it but thought today I'm glad we're not playing North today for the pseudo 'new coach bounce'

[chef]

Obviously not watching it but thought today I'm glad we're not playing North today for the pseudo 'new coach bounce'

Amateur hour at the end though, going over the interchange limit to give Sydneythe winning goal. Lolnorf.

[azabob]

Amateur hour at the end though, going over the interchange limit to give Sydneythe winning goal. Lolnorf.

#HarleyReid

[ledge]

Go Freo, cats looking like a mediocre team against a mediocre team.
I’m not sure what to make of Geelong this year.

[azabob]

Jye Amiss is an exciting player. Fremantle just need to play him, which I’m sure they will.

[Happy Days]

Jye Amiss is an exciting player. Fremantle just need to play him, which I’m sure they will.

He is but he looks like he hasn’t slept in 5 years. Someone get my man some bone marrow.

[SonofScray]

Get that fraud Sheedy off my TV please. What an absolute joke that this sozzled, pain in the backside still has some sort of profile in the game.

[EasternWest]

He is but he looks like he hasn?t slept in 5 years. Someone get my man some bone marrow.

Pretty sure if you googled "meth head" Amiss' picture would be their first result*

* I'm not suggesting he's a meth head but I am saying he looks like one.

[kruder]

Time for Richmond to refresh....

[jeemak]

Pretty sure if you googled "meth head" Amiss' picture would be their first result*

* I'm not suggesting he's a meth head but I am saying he looks like one.

He's giving a real early stages of addiction vibe to it.

[jeemak]

Time for Richmond to refresh....

Dunno, I'm pretty sure all the Richmond acolytes in the media have been telling me they're back in business for the last week.........

[ledge]

Dunno, I'm pretty sure all the Richmond acolytes in the media have been telling me they're back in business for the last week.........

And the same said journos will now tell you they should have started a rebuild at the end of last year .

[azabob]

Snap poll; did Stringer go for goal or centre the footy?

I really want to say went for goal but I reckon he tried to centre it.

[chef]

Snap poll; did Stringer go for goal or centre the footy?

I really want to say went for goal but I reckon he tried to centre it.

He centred it.

[EasternWest]

Snap poll; did Stringer go for goal or centre the footy?

I really want to say went for goal but I reckon he tried to centre it.

Centre

[jeemak]

He centered it, credit to him for working his way into the game as well.

[The Underdog]

God, West Coast are an absolute embarrassment.

[GVGjr]

God, West Coast are an absolute embarrassment.

It's a VFL standard from them.

[azabob]

Gee Collingwood are a well oiled machine. Have they peaked too early ala Melbourne last year?

[The Underdog]

It's a VFL standard from them.

Are we in sack the coach territory? 115 points down and have kicked 2 points in the second half against the team who were bottom before this round

[Mofra]

Are we in sack the coach territory? 115 points down and have kicked 2 points in the second half.
Hawthorn were one spot above West Coast before this round started...

West Coast have been killed with injury as well.

[Grantysghost]

Are we in sack the coach territory? 115 points down and have kicked 2 points in the second half against the team who were bottom before this round

Yep he's gone. Has to be.

Then when Clarkson gives it up for good, he can go to Norf.

[bornadog]

Hawthorn were one spot above West Coast before this round started...

West Coast have been killed with injury as well.

18 on injury list

[GVGjr]

Are we in sack the coach territory? 115 points down and have kicked 2 points in the second half against the team who were bottom before this round

Under the soft cap restrictions it's harder for the really strong clubs like West Coast to sack coaches with 2 years remaining on a deal.
They can cover the money from a financial sense without a hiccup but I sense they would prefer if he tells them he wants to go.

I was listening to ABC before and they mentioned that West Coast have the lowest churn of members of any club and club sponsors stick with them so they don't feel the same pain as most other clubs. They should move him on but they don't actually need to.

[westdog54]

18 on injury list

And there's about 1800 matches of experience among them.

Adam Simpson is the LEAST of the Eagles' concerns at the moment.

[jeemak]

I love Carlton. I mean I wish they could have gaslit their supporters for a bit longer this year (like they did last year, which was genuine mustache twirling goodness) but it is what it is.

[Grantysghost]

And there's about 1800 matches of experience among them.

Adam Simpson is the LEAST of the Eagles' concerns at the moment.

God he'd be lucky to survive a 20 goal loss to the worst team.

Even with players out.

Coach to shut it down.

Reading the wa press he's in the gun.

[angelopetraglia]

Hawks. Average age 24yr 1 mth. Games average 66. Less than 50 games 13.

Eagles. Average 24yr 0 mth. Eagles games 62. Less than 50 games 12.

There is something very, very wrong at the Eagles.

[Grantysghost]

Hawks. Average age 24yr 1 mth. Games average 66. Less than 50 games 13.

Eagles. Average 24yr 0 mth. Eagles games 62. Less than 50 games 12.

There is something very, very wrong at the Eagles.

Yeah it's a shit show.

[bulldogtragic]

Hawks. Average age 24yr 1 mth. Games average 66. Less than 50 games 13.

Eagles. Average 24yr 0 mth. Eagles games 62. Less than 50 games 12.

There is something very, very wrong at the Eagles.

Great. Hard to convince English back at this rate. Freo don’t need Tim with Darcy & Jackson on good coin. Timing is good for the WA clubs to be weak for poaching Tim.

[azabob]

Great. Hard to convince English back at this rate. Freo don’t need Tim with Darcy & Jackson on good coin. Timing is good for the WA clubs to be weak for poaching Tim.

As I said earlier in this thread Fremantle could trade Darcy out especially being a Geelong boy.

[bulldogtragic]

As I said earlier in this thread Fremantle could trade Darcy out especially being a Geelong boy.

Then Darcy is the minimum asking price. Although both are restricted free agents together from memory. But a trade could be interesting to exploit the compo rules. If both left as RFAs they’d cancel each others compo - each club gets no picks. But say Darcy leaving gets them first round compo as a FA. Then they trade a later first rounder to get English. Then both clubs get their player, but Freo move up the first round and Dogs get something high too. Courtesy of AFEL compo rules.

But I’d take English signing and not running through scenarios.

[azabob]

Then Darcy is the minimum asking price. Although both are restricted free agents together from memory. But a trade could be interesting to exploit the compo rules. If both left as RFAs they’d cancel each others compo - each club gets no picks. But say Darcy leaving gets them first round compo as a FA. Then they trade a later first rounder to get English. Then both clubs get their player, but Freo move up the first round and Dogs get something high too. Courtesy of AFEL compo rules.

But I’d take English signing and not running through scenarios.

Sammy Power would have to lead freo to that scenario! But yes, English staying is the preferred outcome.

[The Underdog]

Don’t tell anyone I said this but, c’mon Giants!!!

[EasternWest]

Don’t tell anyone I said this but, c’mon Giants!!!

We don't narc on this forum.

[macca]

The beauty of pies winning heaps more pressure on Carlton to win a game
Swans in round 11. If they cant beat a depleted swans they should just start tanking . Finishing 9-12 is limbo if you have given up first round picks

Silvagni seems unhappy. He probably is headed to stKilda at this stage if saints can string more wins

[kruder]

Lot of people were keen on Weddle before the draft sounds like he had a fair game today. I must say Humphrey was the player I was most keen on for us(not that we were ever gonna get him) but he has looked the goods early. I'm going to watch he and Tsatas careers as there was a lot of debate around who you would choose out of those two.

[EasternWest]

Silvagni seems unhappy. He probably head to stKilda at this stage if saints can string more wins

Can't understand why they play him as back up ruckman when they've got a ready made one playing in the backline.

[westdog54]

Snap poll; did Stringer go for goal or centre the footy?

I really want to say went for goal but I reckon he tried to centre it.

He 100% centred it. I don't think you could watch the 2016 prelim and grand final and suggest otherwise.

[jeemak]

We don't narc on this forum.

Mostly.

[GVGjr]

Who is under more pressure Simpson or Voss?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Who is under more pressure Simpson or Voss?

I'm going to say Voss because Simpson gets a bit of leeway with the list issues.

The expectations at Carlton are sky high whether warranted or not.

[Stevo]

Who is under more pressure Simpson or Voss?
A dead heat but no changes unless Simpson puts his hand up.

[macca]

A dead heat but no changes unless Simpson puts his hand up.

WC sold the farm to top up the list for another tilt from 2018. They should have started shedding some of their veterans 2 years ago. Tim Kelly is silky mid who needs a core body of strong mids around him to work at his potential.

A few lean years for WC as they build up their list again.

Voss is under more pressure as Carlton need to make the 8 to have a pass mark.

[jeemak]

I reckon the more pertinent question is who is best equipped to deal with/ navigate the current pressure?

Voss is three or four bad losses from smearing shit on the walls.

Adam Kingsley, albeit not the topic of this conversation looks as if he's about to coward punch someone every time you see him.

[macca]

I reckon the more pertinent question is who is best equipped to deal with/ navigate the current pressure?

Voss is three or four bad losses from smearing shit on the walls.

Adam Kingsley, albeit not the topic of this conversation looks as if he's about to coward punch someone every time you see him.

How many stress balls has Kingsley worn out this week ? Poor guy, the foot pressure is intense.

[jeemak]

How many stress balls has Kingsley worn out this week ? Poor guy, the foot pressure is intense.

I honestly don't know how he fronts up to work on a Monday and asks everyone to jump on board and enjoy the ride with him like a new coach should.......

[bornadog]

Who is under more pressure Simpson or Voss?

Voss failed first time as a coach and I don't believe he has improved. There is turmoil internally with the largest Carlton backer not happy and refusing to support the team.

[Bulldog Joe]

Sammy Power would have to lead freo to that scenario! But yes, English staying is the preferred outcome.

The perfect outcome is English winning a flag with Bont and resigning to continue winning flags with Bont.

[mjp]

And there's about 1800 matches of experience among them.

Adam Simpson is the LEAST of the Eagles' concerns at the moment.

This is the prevailing sentiment...but it is so weird.

They've won something like 8 out of their last 40 games and have lost > 12 of them by more than 10 goals. The bottom side just beat them by 20 goals. Yet somehow none of it is Simpson's fault.

Seriously good luck to him. But we had people on here calling for Bevo to be sacked after round 2 this year...less than 18-months after a grand final appearance and having played finals last year. Simpson is graded on a curve like no other coach in history.

[Sedat]

This is the prevailing sentiment...but it is so weird.

They've won something like 8 out of their last 40 games and have lost > 12 of them by more than 10 goals. The bottom side just beat them by 20 goals. Yet somehow none of it is Simpson's fault.

Seriously good luck to him. But we had people on here calling for Bevo to be sacked after round 2 this year...less than 18-months after a grand final appearance and having played finals last year. Simpson is graded on a curve like no other coach in history.
I take my hat off to his manager to be able to secure him a multi-year contract worth $1 million per annum to the end of 2025.

[Happy Days]

This is the prevailing sentiment...but it is so weird.

They've won something like 8 out of their last 40 games and have lost > 12 of them by more than 10 goals. The bottom side just beat them by 20 goals. Yet somehow none of it is Simpson's fault.

Seriously good luck to him. But we had people on here calling for Bevo to be sacked after round 2 this year...less than 18-months after a grand final appearance and having played finals last year. Simpson is graded on a curve like no other coach in history.

I’ve never seen a club excuse themselves of poor performance like this current West Coast team.

[Grantysghost]

I’ve never seen a club excuse themselves of poor performance like this current West Coast team.

Losing to the bottom side by 20 goals - yep no worries.

At least play with a gameplan that suits the team you're fielding.

[Flamethrower]

West Coast have to play Collingwood in 2 weeks - can't imagine how huge a margin that could blow out to.

The highest ever score of 239, and greatest winning margin of 190 points could be beaten.