Which player is first to get a game?

[bornadog]

The following players haven't played AFL yet.

Which player do you think will be first to make their debut and will it be this year?



Busslinger, Jedd
Clarke, Charlie
Gallagher, Harvey
Jones, Arthur
Raak, Cody R

[MrMahatma]

Clarke

This needs to be a poll.

[GVGjr]

The following players haven't played AFL yet.

Which player do you think will be first to make their debut and will it be this year?



Clarke, Charlie
Gallagher, Harvey
Jones, Arthur
Raak, Cody R


Have you excluded Busslinger for any particular reason?

[bornadog]

Have you excluded Busslinger for any particular reason?

Thanks, cut and paste mistake :o

[1eyedog]

Yeah Charlie Clarke will get first taste, I can see him being played for his energy alone not to mention he has a skill set applicable to a position of need.

[bornadog]

Clarke

This needs to be a poll.

Good idea. GVGjr, is that possible to edit?

[GVGjr]

Good idea. GVGjr, is that possible to edit?

I think you need to start another thread. It doesn't look like I can add a poll to an existing thread.

[hujsh]

Clarke is seed one but Gallagher's impressive aerobic capacity, footskills, versatility and being a bit older makes him a pretty close second IMO.

[mjp]

I think Gallagher.

[Grantysghost]

Jones.

For no reason I can think of other than I reckon we will want to give him a debut at some point.

Still not sure where his best position is. Hopefully not an in between player as he seems like a really likeable kid.

[F'scary]

I'm going to go with Harvey Wallbanger too. He is an overage NAB Cup draftee, he will be 19 and a half by Round 1. He was the captain of Sandhurst FC and seems to have a very mature outlook on his footy career. I suspect he has the skill set, versatility and the ability to rack up possessions in the VFL to catch the eye of the match committee pretty quickly.

[Mofra]

Jones and Gallagher seem the most advanced.
We brought in a mature wing option, so that pushes Jones back a bit.

I'll go Gallagher as Duryea may not be too durable this year and our young smaller/medium defenders have often gotten a game or two early (e.g. Butler, Clearly)

[mjp]

I'll go Gallagher as Duryea may not be too durable this year and our young smaller/medium defenders have often gotten a game or two early (e.g. Butler, Clearly)

It's a clear role. Go and play on 'him'. Pretty easy for a young player to understand and fit in.

[GVGjr]

I suspect it will be a race between Clarke and Gallagher. Whoever can get through January with the least amount of interrupted training sessions will get their nose in front. I'll go with Gallagher.

[GVGjr]

Added a poll by merging 2 threads.

[Stevo]

If we start strongly none of them should get a game. Clarke will though at some point.

[Jasper]

I think it will be Clarke.

[bornadog]

Added a poll by merging 2 threads.

Thankyou.

I voted Gags

[weltschmerz]

From training today, I really rated Clarke’s forward craft.

[Axe Man]

How come Jones isn't a poll option?

[Happy Days]

Sight unseen I would’ve thought Clarke too. He has lesser competition to get past and if we’re to put any stock in the draft as a player rating tool he is theoretically better than the other options.

[MrMahatma]

I'm going to go with Harvey Wallbanger too. He is an overage NAB Cup draftee, he will be 19 and a half by Round 1. He was the captain of Sandhurst FC and seems to have a very mature outlook on his footy career. I suspect he has the skill set, versatility and the ability to rack up possessions in the VFL to catch the eye of the match committee pretty quickly.

For a second I was thinking to myself "Gee... I'm not switched on, I didn't realise we recruited a guy called Wallbanger - that's a ripping name!"

[bornadog]

How come Jones isn't a poll option?

Looks like missed

[F'scary]

For a second I was thinking to myself "Gee... I'm not switched on, I didn't realise we recruited a guy called Wallbanger - that's a ripping name!"

I should have written Harvey "Wallbanger" Gallagher.

[GVGjr]

How come Jones isn't a poll option?

All fixed

[whythelongface]

I would go with Charlie Clarke. Looks ready to go. In saying that Gallagher may also get a game if Duryea is injured.

On another note where did the nickname for Gallagher come from? Is it the cocktail or the band the Wallbangers that featured Mick Harvey? Assuming it is the cocktail. (Is the nickname a WOOF nickname or one that already existed?).

[GVGjr]

I would go with Charlie Clarke. Looks ready to go. In saying that Gallagher may also get a game if Duryea is injured.

On another note where did the nickname for Gallagher come from? Is it the cocktail or the band the Wallbangers that featured Mick Harvey? Assuming it is the cocktail. (Is the nickname a WOOF nickname or one that already existed?).

I 'think' it's a name that was just stumbled upon here. I'm not 100% certain but I think I heard someone call him Gags today.

[bornadog]

Thankyou.

I voted Gags


I 'think' it's a name that was just stumbled upon here. I'm not 100% certain but I think I heard someone call him Gags today.

Wasn't from me was it :D

[FrediKanoute]

I think Gallagher.

The Salty BUlldogs guys really rate him.

[Axe Man]

I 'think' it's a name that was just stumbled upon here. I'm not 100% certain but I think I heard someone call him Gags today.

Everyone I have known with the surname Gallagher has been called Gags and I actually have no idea why that's a thing.

[mjp]

Everyone I have known with the surname Gallagher has been called Gags and I actually have no idea why that's a thing.

I think Liam gets called Liam and Noel is Noel. :-)

People voting for Clarke - I sorta get it. But can you please tell me who he is selected ahead of.

Forward line:

Naughton, JUH, Lobbe, Bruce, Weightman, JJ, Garcia, West, B. Smith, Hannan, Khamis, Bedendo...

I just can't see how an inexperienced 18yo is selected right now.

Do I think there is some unique stuff about his skillset that fits? Yep.
Do I think he can bridge the gap between playing under-age footy with the 3-2 rule to playing senior footy with its 'empty out' mentality and somehow learn to re-position on the fly...not a chance in hell.

I sort of hope you're right because a genuine small forward is something we still lack but I can't see how he does this in a single off-season with a log-jam of players ahead of him.

[Bulldog Joe]

I think Liam gets called Liam and Noel is Noel. :-)

People voting for Clarke - I sorta get it. But can you please tell me who he is selected ahead of.

Forward line:

Naughton, JUH, Lobbe, Bruce, Weightman, JJ, Garcia, West, B. Smith, Hannan, Khamis, Bedendo...

I just can't see how an inexperienced 18yo is selected right now.

Do I think there is some unique stuff about his skillset that fits? Yep.
Do I think he can bridge the gap between playing under-age footy with the 3-2 rule to playing senior footy with its 'empty out' mentality and somehow learn to re-position on the fly...not a chance in hell.

I sort of hope you're right because a genuine small forward is something we still lack but I can't see how he does this in a single off-season with a log-jam of players ahead of him.

I went with Clarke because I feel he brings something different to all the other forward options.

He appears as the genuine crumber with forward nous.

He isn't a midfielder trying to shoe horn into a forward and he isn't a marking player flying against all those other marking options.

[mjp]

He isn't a midfielder trying to shoe horn into a forward and he isn't a marking player flying against all those other marking options.

Yeah, I get that (100%) but he's going from playing IN the forward line due to the 3-2 rule to basically playing up the ground as happens to all forwards at AFL level. It's a big adjustment.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

I think Liam gets called Liam and Noel is Noel. :-)

People voting for Clarke - I sorta get it. But can you please tell me who he is selected ahead of.

Forward line:

Naughton, JUH, Lobbe, Bruce, Weightman, JJ, Garcia, West, B. Smith, Hannan, Khamis, Bedendo...

I just can't see how an inexperienced 18yo is selected right now.

Do I think there is some unique stuff about his skillset that fits? Yep.
Do I think he can bridge the gap between playing under-age footy with the 3-2 rule to playing senior footy with its 'empty out' mentality and somehow learn to re-position on the fly...not a chance in hell.

I sort of hope you're right because a genuine small forward is something we still lack but I can't see how he does this in a single off-season with a log-jam of players ahead of him.

To be fair none of Garcia, West, Hannan, Khamis, Bedendo and Jones have shown enough to 'lock down' a spot. If he performs early, he'll be a chance on that fact alone.

There's competition for spots, but the quality of options is still debateable.

[Axe Man]

I think Liam gets called Liam and Noel is Noel. :-)

That's not what they call each other, but we can't probably publish that in a PG environment.

[Bulldog Joe]

Yeah, I get that (100%) but he's going from playing IN the forward line due to the 3-2 rule to basically playing up the ground as happens to all forwards at AFL level. It's a big adjustment.

I do appreciate your point and you have more experience with this than most of us (me anyway), but occasionally things click for players coming in.

His point of difference is probably the strongest of the untried players.

[hujsh]

I think Liam gets called Liam and Noel is Noel. :-)

People voting for Clarke - I sorta get it. But can you please tell me who he is selected ahead of.

Forward line:

Naughton, JUH, Lobbe, Bruce, Weightman, JJ, Garcia, West, B. Smith, Hannan, Khamis, Bedendo...

I just can't see how an inexperienced 18yo is selected right now.

Do I think there is some unique stuff about his skillset that fits? Yep.
Do I think he can bridge the gap between playing under-age footy with the 3-2 rule to playing senior footy with its 'empty out' mentality and somehow learn to re-position on the fly...not a chance in hell.

I sort of hope you're right because a genuine small forward is something we still lack but I can't see how he does this in a single off-season with a log-jam of players ahead of him.

I get where you're coming from but we see McNeil get games regularly as a pressure forward and while I like him those games could well be snapped up by Clarke this year as a more dangerous version of the same archetype.

All it'd take is some good form and an injury to JJ and one other (Hannan or West for example) with some bad form elsewhere.