Supercoach League 2023 - Woof Woof Woof

[Mofra]

Hey all,

It's that time again - WOOF league code: 565877

First come, first served.

[GVGjr]

Thanks Mofra, I was about to send you a message. I'm in.

[Grantysghost]

Me 3.
First time for a long while, let's see how badly Die Giester go.

[Happy Days]

Just joined.

[GVGjr]

We only have 8 teams in the competition so far. If you are interested please join in.

[Grantysghost]

Yes - the enjoyment of beating me should be all the incentive you need.

[mjp]

We only have 8 teams in the competition so far. If you are interested please join in.

I've never player. Is it REALLY time consuming??

[Axe Man]

I've never player. Is it REALLY time consuming??

Depends. It can be if you want to endlessly research and read opinions in articles and forums. Or you can just quickly check some stats and go with your own instincts. I'm sure you follow enough AFL news to have a good grasp on players and team news, etc.

[GVGjr]

I've never player. Is it REALLY time consuming??

No, 15 mins a week reading articles is more than enough.

[Happy Days]

I've never player. Is it REALLY time consuming??

Pretty easy once you wrap your head around it being a version of football that Aaron Hall is somehow valuable in.

[Mantis]

Pretty easy once you wrap your head around it being a version of football that Aaron Hall is somehow valuable in.

But there is also room for discretion whereby regardless of how valuable they might be in SC, there's no ****ing chance you're selecting them... Hall fits comfortably in that category.

[mjp]

But there is also room for discretion whereby regardless of how valuable they might be in SC, there's no ****ing chance you're selecting them... Hall fits comfortably in that category.

I have played Dreamteam...is it sorta the same but different?

[GVGjr]

I have played Dreamteam...is it sorta the same but different?
Different scoring, number of trades and player valuation changes are the main differences

[Mofra]

But there is also room for discretion whereby regardless of how valuable they might be in SC, there's no ****ing chance you're selecting them... Hall fits comfortably in that category.
We should make a consensus list and put it somewhere on Woof.
I won't select JdG or Toby Greene for example.

[Happy Days]

No such thing for me because I am a damn professional. Mattress Man was the first guy I picked.

[mjp]

OK - I've done an autofill and will sort it out later.

Anyone who loses to me should be expelled from the competition.

[GVGjr]

OK - I've done an autofill and will sort it out later.

Anyone who loses to me should be expelled from the competition.
I can send you the must haves if that helps.

[Mofra]

I can send you the must haves if that helps.
It's a trap!

[soupman]

Haven't done Supercoach for a loooong time but have just signed up.

[GVGjr]

Here is a bit of a cheat sheet to help pick a side

My suggestion is to pay up for forwards who have the dual position option as it can help when the bye rounds are on or in case of some short term injuries.

DEFENCE

Pick two of these guys

James Sicily (Haw) $624,700

Tom Stewart (Geel) $604,000

Sam Docherty (Carl) $603,300

Jordan Dawson (Adel) $603,100

Bailey Dale (WB) $561,100

Angus Brayshaw (Melb) $550,300

Jordan Ridley (Ess) $504,300

Nick Daicos (Coll) $502,500

Pick this guy

Elliot Yeo (WC) $337,000

And this guy

Reuben Ginbey (WC) $171,300 DEF/MID

Pick four of these guys

Liam Jones (WB) $228,100

Josh Goater (NM) $192,700 DEF/MID

Tom Cole (WC) $182,300

Connor McKenna (Bris) $167,500

Josh Weddle (Haw) $130,800

Charlie Constable (GC) $123,900 DEF/MID

Lachie Cowan (Carl) $117,300

Alex Cincotta (Carl) $102,400 DEF/MID

MIDFIELD

Pick three of these guys

Rory Laird (Adel) $703,900

Clayton Oliver (Melb) $699,800

Lachie Neale (Bris) $676,200

Callum Mills (Syd) $642,400

Marcus Bontempelli (WB) $639,500

Jack Macrae (WB) $634,400

Christian Petracca (Melb) $618,600

Zach Merrett (Ess) $617,500

Andrew Brayshaw (Frem) $615,600

Patrick Cripps (Carl) $611,900

Jack Steele (StK) $604,400

Josh Kelly (GWS) $582,300

Pick one of these guys

Luke Davies-Uniacke (NM) $557,400

Bailey Smith (WB) $542,700

Tom Green (GWS) $534,600

Chad Warner (Syd) $532,700

Tom Mitchell (Coll) $528,600

And one of these guys

Jason Horne-Francis (Port) $348,800 MID/FWD

Will Setterfield (Ess) $348,200

Jacob Hopper (Rich) $332,000

Dom Sheed (WC) $332,000

James Worpel (Haw) $309,300

Pick this guy

Will Ashcroft (Bris) $202,800

And five of these guys

Cam Mackenzie (Haw) $180,300

Mattaes Phillipou (StK) $166,800 MID/FWD

Will Phillips (NM) $158,300

Campbell Chesser (WC) $123,900 DEF/MID

Matt Roberts (Syd) $123,900

Oskar Baker (WB) $123,900

Alwyn Davey (Ess) $117,300 MID/FWD

RUCKS

Pick two of these guys

Max Gawn (Melb) $622,100

Jarrod Witts (GC) $605,100

Tim English (WB) $581,000

Sean Darcy (Frem) $562,200

Brodie Grundy (Melb) $512,900

Rowan Marshall (StK) $506,500

Darcy Cameron (Coll) $465,900 RUC/FWD

And one of these guys

Esava Ratugolea (Geel) $174,000 RUC/FWD

Samson Ryan (Rich) $123,900 RUC/FWD

Nick Madden (GWS) $102,400 RUC/FWD

FORWARDS

Pick this guy

Josh Dunkley (Bris) $596,400 MID/FWD

And two of these guys

Stephen Coniglio (GWS) $557,700 MID/FWD

Zak Butters (Port) $529,400 MID/FWD

Dylan Moore (Haw) $521,000

Connor Rozee (Port) $513,800 MID/FWD

Tim Taranto (Rich) $503,100 MID/FWD

Pick one of these guys

Errol Gulden (Syd) $472,000 MID/FWD

Ben Cunnington (NM) $419,000 MID/FWD

Jack Ziebell (NM) $536,400 FWD

Nat Fyfe (Frem) $313,600 MID/FWD

Sam Flanders (GC) $256,300 MID/FWD

Pick this guy

Fergus Greene (Haw) $123,900

And three of these guys

Harry Sheezel (NM) $198,300

Toby McLean (WB) $178,900 MID/FWD

Ben King (GC) $176,300

Jye Menzie (Ess) $154,200

Sam Sturt (Frem) $123,900

Kade Chandler (Melb) $123,900

Charlie Comben (NM) $123,900

Anthony Caminiti (StK) $102,400

It's all about generating value for money with selections and the more players you have than can outscore their value ultimately this will allow you to trade more premium type players into your side.
The way to calculate what sort of return a player needs to get to help grow your money is to divide their listed value by 5.511

ie Charlie Constable has dual position status which might come in handy and his value is listed at $123,900 which is the same as a lot of the rookies. I won't bore you with the reasons why this has happened.
$123,900 divided by 5.511 = 22.50 which is a small target for him to achieve providing he plays but it looks likely he will.
If CC can score at just 55 plus each week value his will start to rise quickly and it won't take long for his value to be over 300K and that is something you can use to trade in other players.

The values won't change for the first 2 weeks which typically means there is a lot of trades done prior to week 3 to take advantage of anyone who has scored well in the first 2 weeks and to get rid of players who have scored poorly. You don't want to have a player who is worth 600K getting revalued to 500K unless you are confident there will be a bounce back. ie he went of early with an injury and that impacted his score and value.

Try and make sure you have at least 28 of your 30 players selected in week one team selections. The more players that start scoring early on it will increase you chances of growing your salary value. You start with 10M to allocate and I suspect you will need to grow this to 12.5M to be successful.

If anyone has some questions there should be enough of us here to answer them. I can go into details about captains and loopholes if that helps.

[mjp]

If anyone has some questions there should be enough of us here to answer them. I can go into details about captains and loopholes if that helps.

Thanks mate.

I'd kind of set my team up like that anyway - but I notice Touk Miller is not in the list of 'pick 3 of these guys' midfielders...is that because he scores differently in SuperCoach to Dreamteam (which I am familiar with)...anyway - I have selected Miller for now but am curious why he wouldn't be one of the go-to mids...

So there's a captain loophole? Always drives me crazy with Thursday night games...I assume captain is double and VC becomes Captain if the captain doesn't play? So for the loophole, you stick the VC on someone in the first game and if you are happy with them (eg. You stick the 'VC' on Taranto and he scores 150 or whatever a good score in SC is) then you stick the 'C' on a player who is on a team playing LATER that weekend - you put him ON FIELD but he DOES NOT PLAY and allow the interchange bench to do it's work?

If it works like that then I get it...systemised cheating if you ask me!

[GVGjr]

Thanks mate.

I'd kind of set my team up like that anyway - but I notice Touk Miller is not in the list of 'pick 3 of these guys' midfielders...is that because he scores differently in SuperCoach to Dreamteam (which I am familiar with)...anyway - I have selected Miller for now but am curious why he wouldn't be one of the go-to mids...

So there's a captain loophole? Always drives me crazy with Thursday night games...I assume captain is double and VC becomes Captain if the captain doesn't play? So for the loophole, you stick the VC on someone in the first game and if you are happy with them (eg. You stick the 'VC' on Taranto and he scores 150 or whatever a good score in SC is) then you stick the 'C' on a player who is on a team playing LATER that weekend - you put him ON FIELD but he DOES NOT PLAY and allow the interchange bench to do it's work?

If it works like that then I get it...systemised cheating if you ask me!

I think the only reason why Touk isn't listed is because there is a bit of doubt with an injury for week 1 and 2. If he is picked he should be considered. He might also lose some midfield minutes with the emergence of Anderson, Rowell, Flanders, Jed Anderson and maybe Blakely. I'm not sure who to pick between Miller and Mills for my team. Bont is M3 and Steele M4.

The guide is to help with the team structure and you can certainly add other players you might have a hunch about.
Gulden 180 practice game score the other day has a lot of people dropping Coniglio and using the 80K elsewhere.
You've nailed the Captains loophole.
One thing to consider with captains is if the team they are playing that week users taggers or not. We don't but the likes of the Saints do and as such picking Bont as captain in week 2 might carry an extra risk.

[mjp]

Just in case anyone was wondering, I already hate this:

Stewart injured and scored F-ALL.
Laird? I mean, what was that? And as captain?
Josh Kelly - umm - just tough it out.
Yeo - apparently they had all pre-season to work out he was out but forgot to mention it to me.

So. To whomever organised the league, thanks a lot.