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mjp
26-03-2024, 01:27 PM
I'm not trying to be a hater - just trying to understand what the big deal is about this player.

In terms of playing back, he's hardly done it...it feels a bit like the scenes in the Simpson's where Homer is elected the Sanitation Commissioner (or whatever it is) because he's "someone else"...We don't like Gardner and Keath and Buss isn't ready therefore the answer is "someone else"...

I don't dislike him and he might turn into a player one day...but he is seriously just a kid with potential. But he's always in the proposed ins, pre-season sides etc. I don't remember him tearing a VFL game apart the way Macrae did on the weekend and stamping "I AM AN AFL PLAYER" across his name in big red letters...I mean, he's played OK but...

Just trying to understand.

hujsh
26-03-2024, 01:36 PM
He played back pretty well at AFL level late last year. I think it's that simple

jeemak
26-03-2024, 01:52 PM
I think the way people view Keath is a bit skewed (not without some justification), and this in turn makes JOD seem more appealing than he might actually be.

Bigdog
26-03-2024, 01:53 PM
I'm not trying to be a hater - just trying to understand what the big deal is about this player.

In terms of playing back, he's hardly done it...it feels a bit like the scenes in the Simpson's where Homer is elected the Sanitation Commissioner (or whatever it is) because he's "someone else"...We don't like Gardner and Keath and Buss isn't ready therefore the answer is "someone else"...

I don't dislike him and he might turn into a player one day...but he is seriously just a kid with potential. But he's always in the proposed ins, pre-season sides etc. I don't remember him tearing a VFL game apart the way Macrae did on the weekend and stamping "I AM AN AFL PLAYER" across his name in big red letters...I mean, he's played OK but...

Just trying to understand.

His AFL footy was okay, but he was brilliant at VFL level. Every game he played at VFL last year at CHB he was probably our most influential.

I can?t think of many better 10 game CHB. Tom Stewart and Marcus Adams are the only ones I can think of.

Mantis
26-03-2024, 01:59 PM
He is 6'5", athletic, nice hands, neat kick... we don't have too many of them in the back half to support Jones who isn't always suited to playing on the ''big guy'', hence why JOD is seen as a 1st 18 player.

Rocket Science
26-03-2024, 02:23 PM
Because we're DESPERATE.

Mofra
26-03-2024, 02:28 PM
A combination of the above reasons, and our 'Great White Hope' of the past 20 years no longer has to be a KPF (it's now a KPD).

What he did (as a Cat B rookie) last year off no pre-season was remarkable though and he had a very good pre-season by all accounts.
The closest parallel to a guy coming as some sort of rookie from another sport and looking promising straight away would be Blicavs, and he went in the rookie draft proper (#54 in 2012).

Grantysghost
26-03-2024, 02:46 PM
He's really good is why.

mighty_west
26-03-2024, 03:11 PM
First his super impressive early form in the VFL, his first ever VFL game he took was it, a dozen or so marks and looked to read the play really well considering it was his first game, and continued that form, obviously took a little while to click at AFL level but has also looked impressive especially his reading the play in the backline, wasn't so much a fan of his work on a wing.

Not saying he'll be as good as but to me, has similar traits to Alex Rance by the way he moves, reads play and takes nice grabs, good hands.

bornadog
26-03-2024, 03:11 PM
Because we're DESPERATE.

are we

Rocket Science
26-03-2024, 03:35 PM
are we

Well ...

Given Jones is a hundred and four years old, Keath has a number of forks sticking out of him, Gardner's limited and proven too vulnerable at the level, Darcy's still a child and not a dedicated backman, Coffield's undersized and painfully fragile, Busslinger's yet to play a game and remains a yuge question mark, Naughton's never, ever, ever, never ever, ever, never going back and Khamis is our current stop-gap for all the above reasons, I'd say yes friend, we are the textbook definition of 'desperate'.

Fair to say it'd be lovely if O'Donnell could make a lot of that go away.

mjp
26-03-2024, 03:48 PM
Fair to say it'd be lovely if O'Donnell could make a lot of that go away.

I get that it'd be "LOVELY" if it worked out.

What I'm confused about is why it seems so "obvious" that a player with maybe 10 (and 10x pretty average to mediocre) games under his belt is so consistently pushed forward as the option to play as a key back in what we all think SHOULD be a contending side.

I understand he has played a couple of good VFL games...I'm in Perth and haven't seen them. I understand he has taken a few intercept marks (which isn't defending btw). I understand that there isn't much else in the cupboard right now...

But like I said, being the "someone else" option (like when Homer DID become in charge of Sanitation in Springfield) doesn't mean he is a GOOD option.

To me, JOD should be competing for a spot with Buku vs being a kpd.

Mofra
26-03-2024, 03:56 PM
To me, JOD should be competing for a spot with Buku vs being a kpd.
Correct, but that's more on our list than it is James himself.

Right now we either keep playing Buks undersized which isn't a long term solution, wheel out the reanimated corpse of Alex Keath, throw a raw and unready Busslinger to the wolves or bring JOD into the side which, when fit, seems the best option now that we won't have Coffield to be that flexible chop-out type .

In addition to all of that, there does seem to be a real lack of KPD talent league-wide.
Teams are willing to pay over for 'passable' KPDs (e.g. Saints offering 3 years to Melican). Battle, an 'undersized' tall back, is rumoured to have 6 years on the table - and due to front loading Ben McKay is right now the highest paid player in the competition and close to the highest paid player in a single year in history.

Sedat
26-03-2024, 04:24 PM
Correct, but that's more on our list than it is James himself.

Right now we either keep playing Buks undersized which isn't a long term solution, wheel out the reanimated corpse of Alex Keath, throw a raw and unready Busslinger to the wolves or bring JOD into the side which, when fit, seems the best option now that we won't have Coffield to be that flexible chop-out type .

In addition to all of that, there does seem to be a real lack of KPD talent league-wide.
Teams are willing to pay over for 'passable' KPDs (e.g. Saints offering 3 years to Melican). Battle, an 'undersized' tall back, is rumoured to have 6 years on the table - and due to front loading Ben McKay is right now the highest paid player in the competition and close to the highest paid player in a single year in history.
Battle can defend at 193cms, as can Callum Wilkie at 191cms. Tom Stewart is in the conversation for best key defender in the last decade or so and is 190cms.

JOD on form right now is arguably the 2nd best key defender on our list behind Jones (not a ringing endorsement of our list management and our current key defensive stocks). He would most likely have Buss, Keath and Gardner covered. And with Coffield now out for an extended period (poor guy), Buku can slot into Coff's role as the 3rd tall intercept defender/flexible chop out.

If JOD struggles for form, there will be an opportunity for Keath and/or Gardner to take his place in the future.

Not sure we all 'love' JOD (he was heavily criticised in his first 3-4 games) but I think we are all pleasantly surprised at the rapid rate of improvement from when he was first drafted (and totally gifted senior games before he was ready) to the end of last season, and in a position that we have been crying out for depth and talent. That improvement continued during pre-season whereas the likes of Keath and Gardner have plateaued/dipped.

Rocket Science
26-03-2024, 04:51 PM
I get that it'd be "LOVELY" if it worked out.

What I'm confused about is why it seems so "obvious" that a player with maybe 10 (and 10x pretty average to mediocre) games under his belt is so consistently pushed forward as the option to play as a key back in what we all think SHOULD be a contending side.

I understand he has played a couple of good VFL games...I'm in Perth and haven't seen them. I understand he has taken a few intercept marks (which isn't defending btw). I understand that there isn't much else in the cupboard right now...

But like I said, being the "someone else" option (like when Homer DID become in charge of Sanitation in Springfield) doesn't mean he is a GOOD option.

To me, JOD should be competing for a spot with Buku vs being a kpd.

Hey you won't get an argument outta me coach. I'm more than happy to keep tapping the sign.

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Grantysghost
26-03-2024, 05:04 PM
Hey you won't get an argument outta me coach. I'm more than happy to keep tapping the sign.

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Haaaaa

Grantysghost
26-03-2024, 05:05 PM
JOD is good.

It's true that thinking he's the answer is a sign of how desperate our kpd situation is.

Really would have loved the sink being thrown at Mckay.

Dons did well.

Rocco Jones
26-03-2024, 05:12 PM
I actually think JOD and Buku could be well suited to playing together alongside Jones. Ideally we have someone who can play 'bigger' alongside Liam Jones, however I rather go undersized than immobile and/or big liability with ball in hand.

Jones, Buku, JOD and Ed could combine well for a 'team defence' type unit. Players who can move and actually mark the thing.

Mantis
26-03-2024, 05:14 PM
JOD is good.

It's true that thinking he's the answer is a sign of how desperate our kpd situation is.

Really would have loved the sink being thrown at Mckay.

Dons did well.

The defence that McKay leads, as the highest paid player in the comp coughed up 36 scoring shots against Sydney the other night.

McKay had 1 kick & 1 mark (and 8 handballs)

Given we have 3 high profile players to re-sign I'm pretty glad we didn't waste any $$ on McKay.

Grantysghost
26-03-2024, 05:31 PM
The defence that McKay leads, as the highest paid player in the comp coughed up 36 scoring shots against Sydney the other night.

McKay had 1 kick & 1 mark (and 8 handballs)

Given we have 3 high profile players to re-sign I'm pretty glad we didn't waste any $$ on McKay.

He plays for a shit team not sure that's a fair assessment of his value to a side.

I'd be rapt to have him.

angelopetraglia
26-03-2024, 05:33 PM
HOPE. He is young. He is raw. He showed potential. He is still in that glorious honeymoon stage.

HOPE!!!!!!!

Grantysghost
26-03-2024, 05:38 PM
HOPE. He is young. He is raw. He showed potential. He is still in that glorious honeymoon stage.

HOPE!!!!!!!
It's what kills ya.

GVGjr
26-03-2024, 05:54 PM
I've been impressed with his approach to the way he trains and the way he listens to and acts on what the coaches tell him and the way he reacts with his team mates. He also engages the spectators in a very friendly and professional manner. On the weekend I talked to one of the player sponsors who's best friend sat with O'Donnell at the player sponsors night and he couldn't believe how well he engaged all of the sponsors on the table. This guy was very anti that JOD was given games early on but left the night thinking he will probably be in the clubs leadership group within 3 years.

In a pure footy sense and with some other factors these might be some of the reasons why he has a broad appeal with some of our supporters:
- He's a good looking lad
- As a taller defender he plays a role where we don't have a lot of depth and where we have a couple of older players
- Getting games into him would make a lot of sense
- He's tall, mobile and with decent kicking skills and over summer I believe he's demonstrated and ability to be a link player for us
- Who doesn't love the story of the recruiting team running the ruler over him after JOD had a discussion with our former head of performance at a cricket session.

I think the reason why he resonates with a lot of supporters is fairly obvious.
We will probably find out over the next 12 or 18 months if he is the next Lewis Young or Liam Jones.

MrMahatma
26-03-2024, 06:02 PM
I Keath really that cooked?

Or…Did he have some niggles last year that have come good and he can get back to a decent level?

I think the love for JOD is directly correlated with the thinking that Keath is done.

Danjul
26-03-2024, 06:09 PM
Battle can defend at 193cms, as can Callum Wilkie at 191cms. Tom Stewart is in the conversation for best key defender in the last decade or so and is 190cms.

JOD on form right now is arguably the 2nd best key defender on our list behind Jones (not a ringing endorsement of our list management and our current key defensive stocks). He would most likely have Buss, Keath and Gardner covered. And with Coffield now out for an extended period (poor guy), Buku can slot into Coff's role as the 3rd tall intercept defender/flexible chop out.

If JOD struggles for form, there will be an opportunity for Keath and/or Gardner to take his place in the future.

Not sure we all 'love' JOD (he was heavily criticised in his first 3-4 games) but I think we are all pleasantly surprised at the rapid rate of improvement from when he was first drafted (and totally gifted senior games before he was ready) to the end of last season, and in a position that we have been crying out for depth and talent. That improvement continued during pre-season whereas the likes of Keath and Gardner have plateaued/dipped.
This type of selection has been killing us for years now.

Gardner came in from nowhere and was dropped after 3 possessions in game 2.
Weightman getting 1 possession when he couldn?t use 1 arm.
Bruce getting 2 because he couldn?t run .
A Jones getting 0 in 80 minutes of game time, being dropped and then coming back for 4 possessions.

more recently ( like past fortnight)
VDM getting 20 possessions in 2 games and having 7 clangers.
Poulter getting 6 possessions and giving up 2 goals.

Every one of these was hailed as a selection master stroke.
But the team and supporters suffered.

We don?t seem to be using selection criteria and a game plan that players 10-22 can deliver with.

We have missed finals opportunities because of needless losses and diminished percentage, but all that is being sacrificed in the quest for a stroke of genius. Can we just select players who have shown that they are in form and know how to deliver.

Go_Dogs
26-03-2024, 06:15 PM
He moves and runs well, he?s got reasonable judgment of the ball and can intercept. His kicking skills are sound. He?s got a lot of UPSIDE.

Grantysghost
26-03-2024, 06:31 PM
I Keath really that cooked?

Or…Did he have some niggles last year that have come good and he can get back to a decent level?

I think the love for JOD is directly correlated with the thinking that Keath is done.

https://youtu.be/H8zg7uQX6No?si=ig3wFSHPsWXFEZTW

Rocket Science
26-03-2024, 06:33 PM
I Keath really that cooked?

Or…Did he have some niggles last year that have come good and he can get back to a decent level?

I think the love for JOD is directly correlated with the thinking that Keath is done.

I propose the fewer games Keath plays for us this year, the better.

If that ends up being the case it means Jones stays healthy and O'Donnell progresses to being an automatic pick.

Keath's solid veteran depth but too much is asked of him in our system at this stage in his career.

azabob
26-03-2024, 06:46 PM
I Keath really that cooked?

Or…Did he have some niggles last year that have come good and he can get back to a decent level?

I think the love for JOD is directly correlated with the thinking that Keath is done.

Keath has been cooked since he injured his hamstring at mcg against Melbourne on a wet Saturday night in 2021.

bornadog
26-03-2024, 06:46 PM
Keath has been cooked since he injured his hamstring at mcg against Melbourne on a wet Saturday night in 2021.

agree

kruder
26-03-2024, 07:15 PM
I saw his first game and that was enough for me to say get this guy on the list ASAP. One things for sure though he should not be playing in the seniors on Sunday we would be setting the kid to fail. If you?re not going to play Keath on Sunday then don?t have him on the list.

The Pie Man
26-03-2024, 08:11 PM
I get that it'd be "LOVELY" if it worked out.

What I'm confused about is why it seems so "obvious" that a player with maybe 10 (and 10x pretty average to mediocre) games under his belt is so consistently pushed forward as the option to play as a key back in what we all think SHOULD be a contending side.

I understand he has played a couple of good VFL games...I'm in Perth and haven't seen them. I understand he has taken a few intercept marks (which isn't defending btw). I understand that there isn't much else in the cupboard right now...

But like I said, being the "someone else" option (like when Homer DID become in charge of Sanitation in Springfield) doesn't mean he is a GOOD option.

To me, JOD should be competing for a spot with Buku vs being a kpd.

Reckon he’s had at least two ‘good’ games - both against the WA teams at Marvel.

To be able to contribute like that this early in his career coming off no elite junior footy with his athletic traits? Yeah I’m pretty excited at what he could become

jeemak
26-03-2024, 11:29 PM
If Keath is on our list, and judged to be fit then he should be tested. Easy to say he's cooked, though I'd much rather find out at this point rather than later in the season if that's the case. We can build contingencies from here if it is.

AshMac
27-03-2024, 07:53 AM
He looks like a player with composure and smarts for where he is in his career. Don?t think anyone thinks he?s the answer yet - but would prefer to see him get games over Keath and Gardiner.

But basically it?s because we don?t have anyone else

D Mitchell
27-03-2024, 09:56 AM
Clean ball handling, aware of the game around him, doesn't appear to be panicky...and he's a clean cut, neat, friendly bloke without ugly tattoos all over his arms and legs.

The Underdog
27-03-2024, 12:40 PM
I'm not trying to be a hater - just trying to understand what the big deal is about this player.

In terms of playing back, he's hardly done it...it feels a bit like the scenes in the Simpson's where Homer is elected the Sanitation Commissioner (or whatever it is) because he's "someone else"...We don't like Gardner and Keath and Buss isn't ready therefore the answer is "someone else"...

I don't dislike him and he might turn into a player one day...but he is seriously just a kid with potential. But he's always in the proposed ins, pre-season sides etc. I don't remember him tearing a VFL game apart the way Macrae did on the weekend and stamping "I AM AN AFL PLAYER" across his name in big red letters...I mean, he's played OK but...

Just trying to understand.

I think on one level, it's just that the MC / Bevo picked him pretty quickly upon listing him, fast tracking him through the VFL, by-passing other more experienced options, ergo, if he's fit, he'll come into the 22.
I actually like him as a more versatile option to replace Coffield, with the ability to give us a bit more marking strength and size while also largely replacing Coffield's ability to do whatever it is Coffield does. Long term I think he can be a player and yes, probably a 3rd tall, so I've got no real issue with giving him a run. But also wouldn't mind if Keath comes in to give us a taller profile especially with Ed out.

mjp
27-03-2024, 01:03 PM
I think on one level, it's just that the MC / Bevo picked him pretty quickly upon listing him, fast tracking him through the VFL, by-passing other more experienced options, ergo, if he's fit, he'll come into the 22.
I actually like him as a more versatile option to replace Coffield, with the ability to give us a bit more marking strength and size while also largely replacing Coffield's ability to do whatever it is Coffield does. Long term I think he can be a player and yes, probably a 3rd tall, so I've got no real issue with giving him a run. But also wouldn't mind if Keath comes in to give us a taller profile especially with Ed out.

That's all fine...but isn't Cleary the 'obvious' replacement for Coffield?

I like JOD fine btw and am not trying to be the point of dissent. I'm just surprised at how on board everyone is. The venerable Sockeye used to have the 20-game rule and no doubt this is an example of it...probably the most extreme version of it I've seen though.

lemmon
27-03-2024, 01:28 PM
If Keath is on our list, and judged to be fit then he should be tested. Easy to say he's cooked, though I'd much rather find out at this point rather than later in the season if that's the case. We can build contingencies from here if it is.

I think in the Keath v JOD debate, JOD wins points in that he provides more of a point of difference to Jones than Keath does.

Jones is our deepest defender and naturally takes the deepest key forward, it means the second key back has to be more mobile and willing to get up the ground with his man where necessary. I'm far more comfortable with JOD than Keath in that regard, because he has the pace to turn around and get back towards his own goal with his man. It's probably the biggest weakness in Keath's game, and it feels like if he plays, he needs to play as our deepest defender.

Geelong are a great example. Jones starts on Hawkins as the deepest forward, which leaves someone to follow Cameron around - I'd prefer JOD's athletic profile over Keath's.

I think if Gardiner were available, the conversation is more balanced because he does have more pace and agility to get up the ground with mobile forwards and follow them back to goal.

D Mitchell
27-03-2024, 02:20 PM
I think in the Keath v JOD debate, JOD wins points in that he provides more of a point of difference to Jones than Keath does. J..... I'm far more comfortable with JOD than Keath in that regard, because he has the pace to turn around and get back towards his own goal with his man. It's probably the biggest weakness in Keath's game, and it feels like if ...

Yes, but Keath was the better cricketer.

jazzadogs
27-03-2024, 03:04 PM
I think JOD will absolutely be best 22 when fit. But do we really need him this week?

The eagles have Darling, Waterman and a resting ruck.

Gold Coast has King, Casboult, Walter and occasionally Lukosius. Coffield got injured 5 minutes in and was effectively covered by Williams, with Jones and Buku our taller (or at least higher jumping) interceptors.

I'd prefer to move Williams back, bring in one of our fit runners from VFL, and give JOD a week to find form at VFL level with a full expectation that he will be in for the following week when matchups require him.

bornadog
27-03-2024, 03:12 PM
I think on one level, it's just that the MC / Bevo picked him pretty quickly upon listing him, fast tracking him through the VFL, by-passing other more experienced options, ergo, if he's fit, he'll come into the 22.
I actually like him as a more versatile option to replace Coffield, with the ability to give us a bit more marking strength and size while also largely replacing Coffield's ability to do whatever it is Coffield does. Long term I think he can be a player and yes, probably a 3rd tall, so I've got no real issue with giving him a run. But also wouldn't mind if Keath comes in to give us a taller profile especially with Ed out.

You do realise JOD is 197cm, a full 6cm taller than Coffield and Buku, same height as Gardner and 1 cm shorter than Keath.

I think he will be KPD in the future, with Buku more your 3rd defender.

EasternWest
27-03-2024, 03:48 PM
You do realise JOD is 197cm, a full 6cm taller than Coffield and Buku, same height as Gardner and 1 cm shorter than Keath.

I think he will be KPD in the future, with Buku more your 3rd defender.

But what are his skinfolds like?

Pleather Sole
27-03-2024, 04:45 PM
I've been impressed with his approach to the way he trains and the way he listens to and acts on what the coaches tell him and the way he reacts with his team mates. He also engages the spectators in a very friendly and professional manner. On the weekend I talked to one of the player sponsors who's best friend sat with O'Donnell at the player sponsors night and he couldn't believe how well he engaged all of the sponsors on the table. This guy was very anti that JOD was given games early on but left the night thinking he will probably be in the clubs leadership group within 3 years.

In a pure footy sense and with some other factors these might be some of the reasons why he has a broad appeal with some of our supporters:
- He's a good looking lad
- As a taller defender he plays a role where we don't have a lot of depth and where we have a couple of older players
- Getting games into him would make a lot of sense
- He's tall, mobile and with decent kicking skills and over summer I believe he's demonstrated and ability to be a link player for us
- Who doesn't love the story of the recruiting team running the ruler over him after JOD had a discussion with our former head of performance at a cricket session.

I think the reason why he resonates with a lot of supporters is fairly obvious.
We will probably find out over the next 12 or 18 months if he is the next Lewis Young or Liam Jones.

Agreed. I'd much rather get games and AFL pressure in to young promising players than have the older blokes who seem made of glass recently (despite being very good a few years ago & 'ideal height/build etc) and are one injury off retirement hobbling off then we're left with bringing on the young players without enough experience anyway. Apart from exceptions like Sanders there's nothing like real AFL game time intensity to prime a player for sustained AFL success. JOD is composed & poised on ground, especially in the back half. Duryea & Keath seem to be there more as mentor/coach roles atm. Why break glass when you can forge a new axe?

MrMahatma
27-03-2024, 05:30 PM
I think in the Keath v JOD debate, JOD wins points in that he provides more of a point of difference to Jones than Keath does.

Jones is our deepest defender and naturally takes the deepest key forward, it means the second key back has to be more mobile and willing to get up the ground with his man where necessary. I'm far more comfortable with JOD than Keath in that regard, because he has the pace to turn around and get back towards his own goal with his man. It's probably the biggest weakness in Keath's game, and it feels like if he plays, he needs to play as our deepest defender.

Geelong are a great example. Jones starts on Hawkins as the deepest forward, which leaves someone to follow Cameron around - I'd prefer JOD's athletic profile over Keath's.

I think if Gardiner were available, the conversation is more balanced because he does have more pace and agility to get up the ground with mobile forwards and follow them back to goal.

Athleticism is one thing... but Keath has experience and nous.

I'm not sure I want either of them near Cameron but we'll need one of them, and I'm not sure why it HAS to be JOD if Keath is also fit. Neither are slam dunks for that role.

The Underdog
27-03-2024, 05:53 PM
That's all fine...but isn't Cleary the 'obvious' replacement for Coffield?

I like JOD fine btw and am not trying to be the point of dissent. I'm just surprised at how on board everyone is. The venerable Sockeye used to have the 20-game rule and no doubt this is an example of it...probably the most extreme version of it I've seen though.

I don’t disagree, but theres no indication that the MC would pick Cleary before JOD. They’ve tripped over themselves to get JOD in the team and seem to view Clizz as a last resort.

Axe Man
27-03-2024, 05:58 PM
That's all fine...but isn't Cleary the 'obvious' replacement for Coffield?

I like JOD fine btw and am not trying to be the point of dissent. I'm just surprised at how on board everyone is. The venerable Sockeye used to have the 20-game rule and no doubt this is an example of it...probably the most extreme version of it I've seen though.

Given most of us would probably prefer Buku to be the third tall rather than number 2, JOD (or Keath) allows us to rebalance the backline. Whilst Cleary is 191cm he doesn't seem to have to ability to play a little taller like Coffield.

Danjul
27-03-2024, 05:58 PM
Agreed. I'd much rather get games and AFL pressure in to young promising players than have the older blokes who seem made of glass recently (despite being very good a few years ago & 'ideal height/build etc) and are one injury off retirement hobbling off then we're left with bringing on the young players without enough experience anyway. Apart from exceptions like Sanders there's nothing like real AFL game time intensity to prime a player for sustained AFL success. JOD is composed & poised on ground, especially in the back half. Duryea & Keath seem to be there more as mentor/coach roles atm. Why break glass when you can forge a new axe?
Could not agree less.

We have a vfl side for development and that is where players should be taught th the skills and awareness that will propel them into the firsts. The AFL side is for winning, as often and by the maximum amount possible.

Last year we got into the habit of not playing the best possible squad. And look at the result. Disastrous.

Started by continuing the tactic of playing unfit players. Humiliated in games 1 and 2.

Missed finals by 1 win by being beaten by bottom teams. We had two relatively late losses by less than a goal. Would we have won either with more sensible selections. I thought so.

When the focus returns to winning, and not feel good miracles, I will slowly forget the wasted last 2 seasons.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
27-03-2024, 06:54 PM
He moves and runs well, he?s got reasonable judgment of the ball and can intercept. His kicking skills are sound. He?s got a lot of UPSIDE.

and he's dreamy...

hujsh
27-03-2024, 07:18 PM
I guess there were more motivations to love JOD than I realised.

Mofra
27-03-2024, 07:26 PM
I like JOD fine btw and am not trying to be the point of dissent. I'm just surprised at how on board everyone is. The venerable Sockeye used to have the 20-game rule and no doubt this is an example of it...probably the most extreme version of it I've seen though.
Sanders ahead of Macrae?

lemmon
27-03-2024, 07:32 PM
Athleticism is one thing... but Keath has experience and nous.

I'm not sure I want either of them near Cameron but we'll need one of them, and I'm not sure why it HAS to be JOD if Keath is also fit. Neither are slam dunks for that role.

Out of interest, who are you picking to have first crack on Cameron?

Grantysghost
27-03-2024, 07:32 PM
and he's dreamy...
He is a good looking rooster.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
28-03-2024, 09:14 AM
He is a good looking rooster.

He's maybe next in line for the coveted Stupid Sexy moniker that Easton Wood wore.
SSJOD, the initialism rolls off the tongue.

1eyedog
28-03-2024, 04:41 PM
Is young, moves well, isnt rushed, doesn't panic and makes pretty decent decisions. Has a more experienced head on his shoulders than his years. Has a fair bit of upside and needs to be played.

Uninformed
28-03-2024, 07:24 PM
He's maybe next in line for the coveted Stupid Sexy moniker that Easton Wood wore.
SSJOD, the initialism rolls off the tongue.



He is a good looking rooster.

Easton must surely hold the title of the best looking AFL captain ever. Maybe best looking AFL player ever? I am not that way inclined, (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course..), but it is simply objectively true!

And so, swerving erratically even more off topic, I would now put up clear evidence that our coach is the best looking current, and perhaps ever, coach. Though often accused of having a man-crush on Bevo, I am not that way inclined (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course..)


1436

EasternWest
28-03-2024, 07:31 PM
Easton must surely hold the title of the best looking AFL captain ever. Maybe best looking AFL player ever? I am not that way inclined, (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course..), but it is simply objectively true!

And so, swerving erratically even more off topic, I would now put up clear evidence that our coach is the best looking current, and perhaps ever, coach. Though often accused of having a man-crush Bevo, I am not that way inclined (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course..)


1436

Welcome to the SSEW club.

ledge
28-03-2024, 08:27 PM
Easton must surely hold the title of the best looking AFL captain ever. Maybe best looking AFL player ever? I am not that way inclined, (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course..), but it is simply objectively true!

And so, swerving erratically even more off topic, I would now put up clear evidence that our coach is the best looking current, and perhaps ever, coach. Though often accused of having a man-crush on Bevo, I am not that way inclined (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course..)


1436

My friend had a meeting with Easton yesterday he works with executive recruiting under the Hassett group now.
My friend is what you might call a toe cutter, goes to businesses and puts in cost cutting procedures.
Usually means cutting staff which is ironic as I am a blue collar worker if he was at my work we would be the biggest enemies.
Bloody Essendon supporter too .

Grantysghost
28-03-2024, 08:55 PM
My friend had a meeting with Easton yesterday he works with executive recruiting under the Hassett group now.
My friend is what you might call a toe cutter, goes to businesses and puts in cost cutting procedures.
Usually means cutting staff which is ironic as I am a blue collar worker if he was at my work we would be the biggest enemies.
Bloody Essendon supporter too .

Ask the toe cutter, he knows who I am.

I am the knight rider, a fuel injected suicide machine!

Uninformed
29-03-2024, 02:06 AM
Welcome to the SSEW club.

Is that EastonWest?

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
29-03-2024, 03:43 AM
Is that EastonWest?

He's like Bizarro world EastonWest...he's devilishly handsome, but mostly uses his powers for shitposting here and saving kittens stuck in trees.

jeemak
29-03-2024, 04:46 AM
Why does MJP not think JOD is a complete dream boat?

azabob
29-03-2024, 10:08 AM
My friend had a meeting with Easton yesterday he works with executive recruiting under the Hassett group now.
My friend is what you might call a toe cutter, goes to businesses and puts in cost cutting procedures.
Usually means cutting staff which is ironic as I am a blue collar worker if he was at my work we would be the biggest enemies.
Bloody Essendon supporter too .

So your toe cutter friend, one could say they are a consultant.

What?s woofs general view of consultants?

bornadog
29-03-2024, 10:23 AM
So your toe cutter friend, one could say they are a consultant.

What?s woofs general view of consultants?

Haha, don't start that again :D

ledge
29-03-2024, 10:33 AM
So your toe cutter friend, one could say they are a consultant.

What?s woofs general view of consultants?

Well that’s what he calls himself. But as a western suburbs bogan i call his job as what it is.
A lot more variations to a consultant, I just narrowed his down to one type in particular.

ledge
29-03-2024, 10:41 AM
Haha, don't start that again :D

My condolences you fall in that category too but at least you’re not a bombers supporter as well.