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Dry Rot
25-01-2009, 04:22 PM
The Crows play the aboriginal AllStars on Feb 7 IIRC.

Will Harbrow and Hill make the team?

Anyone want to have a crack at listing a possible AllStars team?

GVGjr
25-01-2009, 04:28 PM
The Crows play the aboriginal AllStars on Feb 7 IIRC.

Will Harbrow and Hill make the team?

Anyone want to have a crack at listing a possible AllStars team?

I haven't given this a lot of thought but with Dogs NAB game not that far away I wouldn't have thought any of our indigenous boys are likely to get a run.
Harbrow, Hill and Stack are very much in the mix for the NAB game and possibly Lynch as well.

Dry Rot
25-01-2009, 06:01 PM
I haven't given this a lot of thought but with Dogs NAB game not that far away I wouldn't have thought any of our indigenous boys are likely to get a run.
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Wouldn't that apply to any player from any team though? How would they get a team together?

GVGjr
25-01-2009, 06:16 PM
Wouldn't that apply to any player from any team though? How would they get a team together?

You are probably right, we don't play until the 13th so a couple of them might be in the mix. It will probably depend on what they want to do.

mighty_west
25-01-2009, 06:52 PM
If it was up to the players, i'm sure they wouldn't even think twice, the indiginous players getting together to play a game like this means so much to them, and even though it's only a pre-season hit out, the experience would be huge for the individual.

As a Doggies supporter, i'd love to see the likes of Hill, Harbrow, maybe even a Stack or Lynch getting a game.

Some people might say, ah but they might get injured blah blah, but it's footy, they can get injured on a training track, its the game, if you can't handle that, get out!

Dry Rot
25-01-2009, 07:06 PM
If Franklin is injured, what will they do for KPPs and rucks?

Dry Rot
25-01-2009, 07:07 PM
As a Doggies supporter, i'd love to see the likes of Hill, Harbrow, maybe even a Stack or Lynch getting a game.



Agreed - would be a great experience for them.

Rocket Science
25-01-2009, 08:06 PM
Here's a crack, based on the largely unrealistic assumption they'd all be fit & permitted to participate by their respective clubs:

Backs: Graham Johncock - Patrick Ryder - Andrew McLeod
Half backs: Sean Burgoyne - Roger Hayden - Peter Burgoyne
Centres: Josh Hill - Richard Tambling - Aaron Davey
Half forwards: Leon Davis - Mark Williams - Cyril Rioli
Forwards: Austin Wonaeamirri - Lance Franklin - Daniel Motlop
Followers: Adam Goodes - Chance Bateman - Daniel Wells
Interchange (6 man): Lindsay Thomas - Alwyn Davey - Danyle Pearce - Michael O'Loughlin - Andrew Lovett - Cameron Stokes
Emergencies: Jarrod Harbrow - David Wirrpanda - Leroy Jetta - Andrew Lovett-Murray

That's the team I go with if I'm playing to win...Good luck keeping us to less than 20 goals...then again, if you can get the ball off them you might score 20 yourself without too many problems.

Out of curiosity...Is Magic McLean handling coaching duties again?

GVGjr
25-01-2009, 08:10 PM
Nice team there RS. Perhaps Michael Johnson could free up Ryder who could also do some ruckwork.

The Coon Dog
25-01-2009, 08:12 PM
Out of curiosity...Is Magic McLean handling coaching duties again?

No RS, Chris Johnson will be coaching.

Indigenous All Stars appoint coach (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4169-0-0-0)

Former Brisbane champion Chris Johnson has been appointed head coach of the 2009 Qantas Indigenous All Stars team to play in Darwin on 7th February.

Chris, who retired from the game in 2007, after playing over 260 games with Fitzroy and Brisbane Lions, brings a wealth of experience to the role through his current position as development coach for the Brisbane Lions.

The 32-year-old has a list of playing accolades that includes three premiership medals in 2001, 2002 and 2003, dual All-Australian selection, International Rules captain and club captaincy. Johnson was named in the back pocket of the Indigenous Team of the Century and has been an All Star representative in previous years.

“It’s a great honour to be appointed head coach”, Johnson said, “Especially following in the footsteps of ex-coach Michael McLean. I looked up to him as a young player, I still do look up to him. It is a fantastic opportunity to coach great players against a quality opposition. I’m very excited”.

Jason Mifsud, CEO AFL Foundation said, “Chris clearly demonstrated a vision and passion to ensure that the whole program best reflects the standards of an AFL club. He understands and articulated the requirements needed to produce the necessary professionalism to set a standard of the highest order. And as the only current AFL Indigenous coach he was an obvious choice".

Rocket Science
25-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Nice team there RS. Perhaps Michael Johnson could free up Ryder who could also do some ruckwork.

Indeed...there's such a glut of interchangeable mobile, dangerous mids you could certainly make that argument...But then, who gets the chop?

Rocket Science
25-01-2009, 08:25 PM
No RS, Chris Johnson will be coaching.

Thanks TCD...looks like somewhat of a changing of the guard...though it's lovely to see the reverence Magic is obviously held in.

mjp
25-01-2009, 09:34 PM
Indeed...there's such a glut of interchangeable mobile, dangerous mids you could certainly make that argument...But then, who gets the chop?

Michael Johnson is 195cm...I think he is a monty to play if he wants too. As for who to leave out, the line forms behind all of the midgets (everyone who isn't Franklin, Goodes, or Ryder). By the same logic, I expect Antoni Grover and Nathan Lovett-Murray to be selected...they will be used to fill the key roles down back (along with either Grover or Johnson), with Ryder doing 'most' of the ruckword and Goodes and Franklin both playing forwards.

And the clearance specialist who is Shaun Burgoyne cannot sit at half-back.

Playing to win?

Backs: Graham Johncock - Antoni Grover - Roger Hayden
Half backs: Andrew Macleod - Michael Johnson - Peter Burgoyne
Centres: Danyle Pearce - Daniel Wells - Richard Tambling
Half forwards: Leon Davis - Adam Goodes - Cyril Rioli
Forwards: Mark Williams - Lance Franklin - Daniel Motlop
Followers: Paddy Ryder - Shaun Burgoyne - Chance Bateman
Interchange (6 man): Lindsay Thomas - David Wirrapanda - Michael O'Loughlin - Andrew Lovett - Nathan Lovett-Murray

For me, Harbrow and Hill miss the cut.

The Doctor
25-01-2009, 10:00 PM
Michael Johnson is 195cm...I think he is a monty to play if he wants too. As for who to leave out, the line forms behind all of the midgets (everyone who isn't Franklin, Goodes, or Ryder). By the same logic, I expect Antoni Grover and Nathan Lovett-Murray to be selected...they will be used to fill the key roles down back (along with either Grover or Johnson), with Ryder doing 'most' of the ruckword and Goodes and Franklin both playing forwards.

And the clearance specialist who is Shaun Burgoyne cannot sit at half-back.

Playing to win?

Backs: Graham Johncock - Antoni Grover - Roger Hayden
Half backs: Andrew Macleod - Michael Johnson - Peter Burgoyne
Centres: Danyle Pearce - Daniel Wells - Richard Tambling
Half forwards: Leon Davis - Adam Goodes - Cyril Rioli
Forwards: Mark Williams - Lance Franklin - Daniel Motlop
Followers: Paddy Ryder - Shaun Burgoyne - Chance Bateman
Interchange (6 man): Lindsay Thomas - David Wirrapanda - Michael O'Loughlin - Andrew Lovett - Nathan Lovett-Murray

For me, Harbrow and Hill miss the cut.

Great team Mike

however, allow me some bias, our boys Hill and Harbrow are better on the wings than what you have proposed. I actually believe that!!!!

The Coon Dog
25-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Collingwood & West Coast clash that week in the NAB Cup, so Neon Leon & Wirrpanda may not be available.

LostDoggy
25-01-2009, 11:10 PM
who would johncock and mcleod play for? Adelaide or the All Stars?

mighty_west
26-01-2009, 01:16 AM
who would johncock and mcleod play for? Adelaide or the All Stars?

The All Stars most likely, was it Brad Murphy who tried to clean up Cam Faulkner that time when we played the All Stars in Darwin?

mjp
26-01-2009, 10:19 AM
Great team Mike

however, allow me some bias, our boys Hill and Harbrow are better on the wings than what you have proposed. I actually believe that!!!!

My main aim with the team was to avoid any threat of injury to important players. Hill and Harbrow to sit this one out.

ledge
26-01-2009, 12:05 PM
A great skilful team but is there anyone in the backline that has put on a tackle in their life?
2 of the players named in the backline have been opportunist half forward flankers, they dont make good chase and tacklers or stoppers.
And Macleod? Dont doubt his game but as a backman none of these are stick to players, more run off types.
Great with the ball but not sighted without it.
Wirrapunda, I would have him in the backline immediately.

mjp
26-01-2009, 04:56 PM
Hate to say this Ledge, but all of the players I named in the back 6 spent most of the 2008 season playing back...and West Coast moved Wirrapanda FORWARD because he simply refused to get on his man.

Macleod won two Norm Smiths as a half-back...I'll have him any day...aside from the fact that he was terrible last year, is completely 'gone' (or so it seeemed) and is in the team on reputation only.

ledge
26-01-2009, 05:42 PM
Yeah but they are all of the same ilk, run off players, in reality one or 2 in a side is good but where is the big tough fullback or tagging back pocket, indigenous players are incredible ball handlers but never been known to do the tagging roles.

Dont get me wrong i am not having a go at you, but more of the fact there arent any hard bodied tough tagging and bullocking ones about you could choose from for the backline.

Run off players look great if someone is there to do the punching, pushing, shoving etc.
The one good thing about this is it should lead to high scoring.
Although a coach who prides himself on a great defence eg Malthouse would be bald after 2 games.