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comrade
25-06-2009, 06:23 PM
With a bit of spare time at work, I’ve put together a small spreadsheet that tracks the TAC Cup stats of our potential father/son pick ups: Mitch Wallis and Tom Liberatore.

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Even though it’s only a reasonably small sample (4 games) - looking at those stats, it tells you a fair bit about what sort of players they are.

Mitch uses the ball by foot the majority of time (and uses it well), and gets half of his possessions through handball receives, suggesting that he’s an outside player that his teammates look for to dispose the ball well. Against the Rebel, he set up primarily on the wing, but also had stints in the middle and at half forward.

Tom prefers to handball 50% of the time, and from seeing him play a couple of times, I’d suggest a large amount of his handballs are contested as he is a genuine inside-midfielder in the Sam Mitchell-mold.

He doesn’t use the ball as well as Mitch, particularly by foot, but had fantastic game against the Rebels finishing with 29 disposals, 3 marks and 9 tackles (I’m sure this made his dad smile :))

It’ll be interesting to see how they go for the rest of the year – there is a 3 week break from APS footy where they’ll play for the Cannons so I’ll try and update the stats.

If we do take both, we’ll be getting two very different midfielders – an attacking wingman with a good goal sense, and an inside extractor.

dazb
26-06-2009, 01:38 PM
I hope if Wallis does become the attacking wingman with good goal sense he doesn't become a scapegoat like Nathan Eagleton.

comrade
26-06-2009, 01:50 PM
I hope if Wallis does become the attacking wingman with good goal sense he doesn't become a scapegoat like Nathan Eagleton.

As much as Eagleton is maligned (less so this year), every side requires outside players to run the lines and dispose the ball well.

The issue with Eagle is that he has the tendency to only run one way, and for large parts of last year, his kicking was below par.

Wallis can kick with both sides (a big plus), and heís good in the air (probably another area that Eagle isnít overly strong in).

Hopefully he continues to work on the defensive side of his game, as well as improving his fitness/work rate to ensure he gets to as many contests and runs to the best positions as possible, for 4 quarters. That would get me excited.

bulldogtragic
26-06-2009, 03:16 PM
Thanks Comrade, looks increasingly like both will be f/s selections.

Remi Moses
26-06-2009, 06:20 PM
Kicking efficiency is very important

Remi Moses
26-06-2009, 06:24 PM
I hope if Wallis does become the attacking wingman with good goal sense he doesn't become a scapegoat like Nathan Eagleton.

The eagle isn't a scapegoat supporters have detected that his kicking penetration had detiorated as with his pace. Happy to say he's played well of late. Agreed every side needs outside run and carry types i'd like to hop Nathan plays well in the big games i.e finals that's all

lemmon
26-06-2009, 09:09 PM
Thanks for that, very promising statistics. Is Wallis quick?

The Coon Dog
26-06-2009, 09:11 PM
I've read quite a few reports from people who say Mitch Wallis is a left footer. I spoke with a bloke tonight involved with Calder Cannons & he's emphatic Mitch is infact a right footer. Anyone know for sure?

comrade
26-06-2009, 09:16 PM
I've read quite a few reports from people who say Mitch Wallis is a left footer. I spoke with a bloke tonight involved with Calder Cannons & he's emphatic Mitch is infact a right footer. Anyone know for sure?

I originally thought he was a left footer on seeing him earlier in the year, but he kicked primarily with his right on the weekend.

So to answer your question TCD - I've got no idea.

hujsh
26-06-2009, 09:26 PM
So to answer your question TCD - I've got no idea.

That's great. Ideal situation. No complaints like with Eagle of not using his opposite foot.:)

bulldogtragic
26-06-2009, 10:09 PM
I've read quite a few reports from people who say Mitch Wallis is a left footer. I spoke with a bloke tonight involved with Calder Cannons & he's emphatic Mitch is infact a right footer. Anyone know for sure?
Sounds a little like Leon Cameron, as a younger watcher when he was at his peak i had no idea (and still have no idea) which was Leon's natural side. God i wish just an ounce of the talent to kick both feet. Or have any skill more generally :)

comrade
29-06-2009, 04:12 PM
Iíve updated our F/S season stats after the game against Gippsland Power Ė please see below.

<a href="http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/?action=view&current=tacstats2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/tacstats2.jpg" border="0" alt="Tac cup 2"></a>

Interesting to note that the two players have a mirror image ratio when it comes to kicking vs handballing.

Some direct stats from the weekend:

Mitch Wallis amassed 35 possessions Ė Iíve read in places that his biggest knock is the fact that he doesnít get enough of the ball, so itís an impressive game. He also had a whopping 20 handball receives, which suggests he worked hard to run past contests to provide an option.

Tom Liberatore amassed 27 touches, backing up his 29 possession game last week. Probably even more impressive was that he was credited with 10 tackles, suggesting that his defensive game is a real strength.

ledge
29-06-2009, 07:45 PM
10 tackles, suggesting that his defensive game is a real strength.
Now that sounds familiar,

Scorlibo
30-06-2009, 11:49 PM
Iíve updated our F/S season stats after the game against Gippsland Power Ė please see below.

<a href="http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/?action=view&current=tacstats2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/tacstats2.jpg" border="0" alt="Tac cup 2"></a>

Interesting to note that the two players have a mirror image ratio when it comes to kicking vs handballing.

Some direct stats from the weekend:

Mitch Wallis amassed 35 possessions Ė Iíve read in places that his biggest knock is the fact that he doesnít get enough of the ball, so itís an impressive game. He also had a whopping 20 handball receives, which suggests he worked hard to run past contests to provide an option.

Tom Liberatore amassed 27 touches, backing up his 29 possession game last week. Probably even more impressive was that he was credited with 10 tackles, suggesting that his defensive game is a real strength.

Thanks very much Comrade! They both sound super impressive, it's a dream situation to be in really isn't it? Having two midfielders who compliment each other so incredibly and who have played their junior career together. And they're producing these numbers still a year and a half away from draft time!

Glove38
02-07-2009, 07:04 PM
Thanks for this comrade, very promising.

Rocco Jones
05-07-2009, 03:02 PM
Can Gold Coast draft Wallis and/or Liberatore as part of their 12 seventeen year-old concessions at the end of this year? Apparently if they reject the GC they will have to sit out the 2011 season.

Happy Days
05-07-2009, 03:20 PM
Went to watch the Oakleigh vs Calder game today. Firstly, Wallis looks a serious player. He had alot of the ball, his hands looked clean, and he worked both inside and outside. Spent a bit of time forward, but was predominantly played in the middle, before coming off for a rest with 5 minutes to go in the 4th.

Liberatore was also very impressive, both as an in and under midfielder (he won several clearances), but also as a forward, where he kicked two very nice goals, most impressive was a set shot from 50m comfortably making the distance.

We might be on to something here.

chef
05-07-2009, 05:36 PM
Can Gold Coast draft Wallis and/or Liberatore as part of their 12 seventeen year-old concessions at the end of this year? Apparently if they reject the GC they will have to sit out the 2011 season.

No, as father/sons they are ours if we want them.

boydogs
05-07-2009, 06:42 PM
Can Gold Coast draft Wallis and/or Liberatore as part of their 12 seventeen year-old concessions at the end of this year? Apparently if they reject the GC they will have to sit out the 2011 season.

Too young :) -

"Even better timing for the club is the fact that while both boys turn 17 this year, neitherís birthday falls before the April cut-off date for the Gold Coast which has been given the pick of the best 17-year-olds in the competition at the end of 2009. Even the AFL struggled to clarify whether clubs this year could warehouse their 17-year-old father-son prospects should they be eyed by the Gold Coast this year."

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/in-the-game-of-the-father/2009/04/27/1240684400680.html

comrade
06-07-2009, 01:02 PM
Another stats update, after Calder's game against the Oakleigh Chargers.

<a href="http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/?action=view&current=taccup3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/taccup3.jpg" border="0" alt="TAC Cup 3"></a>

Some direct stats from the game against Oakleigh:

Wallis: 29 disposals, 5 tackles and a goal. His disposal efficiency was down on previous weeks, but good to see he is continuing to accumulate possessions.

Liberatore: 23 disposals, 5 tackles and 3 goals. Tom had 1 ineffective disposal for the entire game (an errant kick).

Interesting to note that after the game on the weekend, Wallisí disposal efficiency dropped below Liberatoreís for the first time this year.

bulldogtragic
06-07-2009, 02:00 PM
When we f/s these boys with our first two picks, what picks will they be roughly.

GC17 get the first 5 and then another 5 in the top 20 isn't it.

So we'd be getting them for (roughly) pick 26 and 50.

Steal of the century.

Mofra
06-07-2009, 02:01 PM
Interesting to note that after the game on the weekend, Wallisí disposal efficiency dropped below Liberatoreís for the first time this year.
Plenty of kids get drafted with worse stats than that. 2 in one year after Ayce last year, we may end up matching Geelong for F&S luck yet :)

Happy Days
06-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Would anyone happen to know why they didn't play in the Carnival this year?

Wallis was far and away best on, with Liberatore not far behind. When you have players this far above the level, it seems confusing for then not to gain higher honours.

comrade
06-07-2009, 03:50 PM
Would anyone happen to know why they didn't play in the Carnival this year?

Wallis was far and away best on, with Liberatore not far behind. When you have players this far above the level, it seems confusing for then not to gain higher honours.

There are whispers that Vic Metroís selection platform was all about eligible draftees, rather than the best footballers.

There are a few Iíve spoken to who believe Wallis in particular shouldíve definitely played.

boydogs
06-07-2009, 08:28 PM
When we f/s these boys with our first two picks, what picks will they be roughly.

GC17 get the first 5 and then another 5 in the top 20 isn't it.

So we'd be getting them for (roughly) pick 26 and 50.

Steal of the century.

9 of the first 15 and then the first pick each round I believe. 26 sounds about right (if we win the premiership :D) but 26 + 17 = 43 for the other

Sedat
07-07-2009, 12:28 PM
9 of the first 15 and then the first pick each round I believe. 26 sounds about right (if we win the premiership :D) but 26 + 17 = 43 for the other
That's assuming another club will bid their first pick for either of them - not a fait accompli by the sounds. It might end up being pick 43 and pick 60.

Rocco Jones
07-07-2009, 12:30 PM
What unbelievably perfect timing to have two father/son selections in the Gold Coast draft.

EJ Smith
07-07-2009, 01:37 PM
Are we certain they both want to play with us?

Desipura
07-07-2009, 01:51 PM
Are we certain they both want to play with us?
Why wouldn't they?
Libba has said sorry and Wallis's dad still has some affiliation with the Doggies.

Mofra
07-07-2009, 02:32 PM
Are we certain they both want to play with us?
I thought they both spent their last school holidays with us.

Mantis
07-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Are we certain they both want to play with us?

The club through Simon Dalrymple (head of recruiting) spoke to both families at the end of last year. The 2 boys are both in a development type squad where they have regular contact with the club to receive extra advice on fitness programs, etc.

There was no assurances given to the boys about selecting them, but I am sure the club would be pleased with their performances some 16 months out from when they can be drafted.

I know Mitch Wallis is keen Dogs fan, I can only assume the same for young Libba.

bulldogtragic
07-07-2009, 07:10 PM
If they keep up their form for 18 months, they would have to be certainties. They are constantly both in the bests for the APS and U/18s and have great stats to nack it up.

bulldogtragic
07-07-2009, 07:11 PM
If they keep up their form for 18 months, they would have to be certainties. They are constantly both in the bests for the APS and U/18s and have great stats to back it up.

boydogs
07-07-2009, 08:07 PM
That's assuming another club will bid their first pick for either of them - not a fait accompli by the sounds. It might end up being pick 43 and pick 60.

I don't think it will be just the first pick of existing clubs they would have to escape but also one of the first 10 picks made by the Gold Coast, so genuinely 25 no thankses to both to get away only using 43 and 60. A long way to go but with them both being in the bests every week I'm not sure that is likely

Sedat
08-07-2009, 12:07 PM
I don't think it will be just the first pick of existing clubs they would have to escape but also one of the first 10 picks made by the Gold Coast, so genuinely 25 no thankses to both to get away only using 43 and 60.
Is that right? Can GC use any of their picks to bid for Father-Sons, including their first round picks? And if they can, do you think they would bid such a high pick for a player that might not be rated as high as that (not saying Wallis or Liberatore aren't that highly rated but they might not be, I'll bow to the better judges here). Cordy was well regarded as first round quality so there was always going to be a high draft bid for him.

Sockeye Salmon
08-07-2009, 12:30 PM
Is that right? Can GC use any of their picks to bid for Father-Sons, including their first round picks? And if they can, do you think they would bid such a high pick for a player that might not be rated as high as that (not saying Wallis or Liberatore aren't that highly rated but they might not be, I'll bow to the better judges here). Cordy was well regarded as first round quality so there was always going to be a high draft bid for him.

It's not going to matter. GC aren't going to overbid for a spud just to piss us off.

Someone will bid for Wallis before our 1st round pick because an underage kid who's already tearing it up is a gun. *


* Rider: Some gun underage kids go totally askew. Jay Schulz was a certainty to be the greatest thing of all time a year before he was old enough to be drafted.

comrade
08-07-2009, 12:47 PM
* Rider: Some gun underage kids go totally askew. Jay Schulz was a certainty to be the greatest thing of all time a year before he was old enough to be drafted.

Sedat hasnít given up hope that this will still happen :D

Sedat
08-07-2009, 02:12 PM
Sedat hasn’t given up hope that this will still happen :D
Only to see it cut the knife further into Richmond seeing another discarded player blossom elsewhere :)

Even I'm waning. He's in all likelihood going to be one of those Ron Deiulio types, too good for VFL and not good enough for AFL. I would like to see him on the receiving end of a decent midfield - probably kicks bags in the VFL because he gets better supply from Coburg's midfield than from Richmond's :D

Mofra
08-07-2009, 02:40 PM
Even I'm waning. He's in all likelihood going to be one of those Ron Deiulio types, too good for VFL and not good enough for AFL. I would like to see him on the receiving end of a decent midfield - probably kicks bags in the VFL because he gets better supply from Coburg's midfield than from Richmond's :D
That would include McMahon Sedat ;)

The Coon Dog
08-07-2009, 07:00 PM
I spoke with a guy tonight when I dropped my son off at footy training. He's involved with the Calder Cannon's so I asked about Libba & Wallis.

He siad he's seen more of Tom as he played a few games there last season & at the start of the year he had him well ahead of Mitch, but he said Mitch's last 3 games now have him re-thinking things.

On the weekend they decided to play Tom up forward as they knew what he could do in the midfield. He said he kicked 3 goals, applied heaps of defensive pressure & had a few runs on the ball & still got quite high stats.

He reckons it will be a big test this week as they play the Geelong Falcons who have only lost one game & they can play Mitch & Tom before school footy kicks back in & there's no under 18's carnival, just the beat players available for both sides.

Given they have another year at TAC level next year & with the level of development expected, he reckons both would be first round draft choices.

Sedat
08-07-2009, 07:06 PM
Thanks TCD - I guess it's picks 26 and 43 then :o

bulldogtragic
08-07-2009, 07:07 PM
2 x 1st rounders for pick 26 and 50.

Nothing would be sweeter than that - a part from the premiership they would be a part of.

Bulldog4life
08-07-2009, 08:16 PM
2 x 1st rounders for pick 26 and 50.

Nothing would be sweeter than that - a part from the premiership they would be a part of.

I like the way you think. :D

boydogs
08-07-2009, 11:22 PM
Is that right? Can GC use any of their picks to bid for Father-Sons, including their first round picks? And if they can, do you think they would bid such a high pick for a player that might not be rated as high as that (not saying Wallis or Liberatore aren't that highly rated but they might not be, I'll bow to the better judges here). Cordy was well regarded as first round quality so there was always going to be a high draft bid for him.

I'm not sure whether all of Gold Coast's early picks are first rounders for father-son bidding purposes, however with the picks they will have it makes it more likely that Libba and Wallis juniors will go in the first round with it including being 26 rather than 16 players

In a way I'm hoping they do because it means they are going well :)

The Coon Dog
08-07-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm not sure whether all of Gold Coast's early picks are first rounders for father-son bidding purposes, however with the picks they will have it makes it more likely that Libba and Wallis juniors will go in the first round with it including being 26 rather than 16 players

In a way I'm hoping they do because it means they are going well :)

It works in such a way that the team with pick 1 has the choice whether nominate another club's F/S. If they do, then the F/S's club can use their next available pick.

So say if GC17 say yes with pick 1, we get the option of next available (assuming its around pick 24), then we get the player & have used pick 24.

If GC17 say no with pick 1, it reverts to the team with pick 2 (also GC17), if they say yes, we use next available (pick 24). If they say no, it reverts to the team with pick 3 (also GC17) & so on.

Lets say Mitch Wallis is secured under F/S & we have to use pick 24 to get him, bidding then starts on Tom Liberatore & again its the same process. If anyone says yeas between pick 1 & pick 41 (our next pick), then we use our next available pick, in this case pick 41 to secure him.

Remember, bidding commenced before trade week, so we can't trade away our first round pick & then expect to use our 2nd & 3rd round picks for F/S.

Let me know if that's still not clear enough.

Dog-Pound
09-07-2009, 02:35 PM
It works in such a way that the team with pick 1 has the choice whether nominate another club's F/S. If they do, then the F/S's club can use their next available pick.

So say if GC17 say yes with pick 1, we get the option of next available (assuming its around pick 24), then we get the player & have used pick 24.

If GC17 say no with pick 1, it reverts to the team with pick 2 (also GC17), if they say yes, we use next available (pick 24). If they say no, it reverts to the team with pick 3 (also GC17) & so on.

Lets say Mitch Wallis is secured under F/S & we have to use pick 24 to get him, bidding then starts on Tom Liberatore & again its the same process. If anyone says yeas between pick 1 & pick 41 (our next pick), then we use our next available pick, in this case pick 41 to secure him.

Remember, bidding commenced before trade week, so we can't trade away our first round pick & then expect to use our 2nd & 3rd round picks for F/S.

Let me know if that's still not clear enough.

Well explained

bulldogtragic
09-07-2009, 06:26 PM
Well explained
TCD is the best explainer we have on WOOF.

He is so good i bet he could explain quantum theory/ quantum mechanics in such a way we could all understand.

Cue TCD.

The Coon Dog
09-07-2009, 06:56 PM
TCD is the best explainer we have on WOOF.

He is so good i bet he could explain quantum theory/ quantum mechanics in such a way we could all understand.

Cue TCD.

:eek: NFI

bulldogtragic
09-07-2009, 07:22 PM
:eek: NFI
Watch a movie/doco called 'What the Bleep would we know' - excellent movie/doco.

Or wikipedia it. I can't explain it easily, if at all. And then there is 'string theory' too which is fascinating.

Should i just leave your explaining to football matters and the best jukebox website EVER!!!!! (with the exception of the late 90's, WTF happened to music?)

GVGjr
18-07-2009, 12:34 PM
Who does this remind you of?

No problems with any mix up at the hospital I wouldn't have thought :)

http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/00/32/59/325969_1_L.jpg

Desipura
18-07-2009, 02:41 PM
Who does this remind you of?

No problems with any mix up at the hospital I wouldn't have thought :)

http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/00/32/59/325969_1_L.jpg

Gee he looks tall, hope he continues to grow.

comrade
17-08-2009, 07:28 PM
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/taccup4-1.jpg

The latest edition of the Father/Son stats.

Wallis had a monster game on the weekend - 37 touches, 13 handball receives and 4 marks. My only issue with his early season form was that he didn't get to enough contests and accumulate enough possessions the have a massive influence - he's certainly come good in that respect, averaging 32 touches in his last 4 games at TAC Cup level and over 25 for the season.

Libba also had a solid game on the weekend, with 22 touches and 8 tackles. His disposal efficiency is also very good and he has featured in the bests in his last 5 games for Calder.

Hard not to get excited about having them on our list.

bulldogtragic
17-08-2009, 07:32 PM
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/taccup4-1.jpg

The latest edition of the Father/Son stats.

Wallis had a monster game on the weekend - 37 touches, 13 handball receives and 4 marks. My only issue with his early season form was that he didn't get to enough contests and accumulate enough possessions the have a massive influence - he's certainly come good in that respect, averaging 32 touches in his last 4 games at TAC Cup level and over 25 for the season.

Libba also had a solid game on the weekend, with 22 touches and 8 tackles. His disposal efficiency is also very good and he has featured in the bests in his last 5 games for Calder.

Hard not to get excited about having them on our list.
Thanks again Comrade. The more these boys play, the higher their value goes. If this trend continues it would be hard not to think they wont be our two first picks. Very, very exciting times ahead.

Mantis
27-08-2009, 09:51 AM
Not sure if this is the correct thread for this info, but anyways:

St.Kevins had their presentation night on the weekend;

B&F - Thomas Liberatore
R/U - Mitchell Wallis

Team consisted of up to 12 TAC players.

bulldogtragic
27-08-2009, 11:13 AM
Not sure if this is the correct thread for this info, but anyways:

St.Kevins had their presentation night on the weekend;

B&F - Thomas Liberatore
R/U - Mitchell Wallis

Team consisted of up to 12 TAC players.
Holy Shit!!! That's brilliant!!!

Mofra
27-08-2009, 01:35 PM
Not sure if this is the correct thread for this info, but anyways:

St.Kevins had their presentation night on the weekend;

B&F - Thomas Liberatore
R/U - Mitchell Wallis

Team consisted of up to 12 TAC players.
Beauty. Good to read.

comrade
14-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Libba and Mitch both polled 9 votes in the Morrish Medal last night – not bad for two underage kids who missed half the year through school commitments.

FWIW, the winner, Anton Woods, finished on 24 votes.

Desipura
14-09-2009, 01:10 PM
Gee whiz, both kids get a mention as about their games on the weekend which is great as they are still under aged! If they continue to improve next season (nothing to suggest they wont) we could be looking at 2 very handy footballers.
Given Wallis's consistent form over the last 4-5 weeks, I wonder if he was available to be drafted this year, what counter offer clubs would put in to gain his services?

Hot_Doggies
14-09-2009, 01:30 PM
Thomas Liberatore was Dux of his year at St Kevins in 07.

I am told he is a very smart and likeable lad.

Scorlibo
14-09-2009, 01:55 PM
They played about half the year so those 9 votes probably equate to 18 votes, which is a staggering effort for two kids at least one year younger than most in that competition. I know it's early, and some kids haven't shown themselves yet, but you'd reckon that they'd both be top ten picks if we didn't have them under the father son rule.

bornadog
14-09-2009, 02:02 PM
Libba and Mitch both polled 9 votes in the Morrish Medal last night Ė not bad for two underage kids who missed half the year through school commitments.

FWIW, the winner, Anton Woods, finished on 24 votes.

A medal Libba's old man won;)

comrade
14-09-2009, 02:58 PM
A medal Libba's old man won;)

If he plays enough games next year, Libba jnr could easily replicate his old man's achievement.

Dog House
27-09-2009, 04:22 PM
Slightly off topic (Wallis + Libba junior)

Do we have any other future father/son selections that anyone is aware of for 2011, 2012 etc?

Would be good to have a raft of quality f/s selections with the GC17 + WS18 taking up lots of the quality picks

Sockeye Salmon
27-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Slightly off topic (Wallis + Libba junior)

Do we have any other future father/son selections that anyone is aware of for 2011, 2012 etc?

Would be good to have a raft of quality f/s selections with the GC17 + WS18 taking up lots of the quality picks

Mark Hunter's son is a possibility for 2011 but I don't know if he's any good.

Rocco Jones
27-09-2009, 06:11 PM
Interesting to see how we handle Wallis and Libba in the next 12 months. They are all bar assured of being drafted by us. If they have any injury concerns, I wonder how much control we have over them just going in for surgery and resting up. I know Cordy did something similar with his shoulder.

Perfecting timing coming into the compromised draft. The premiers will have a very late 1st round pick next year, wouldn't it be about 30th overall?

bulldogtragic
27-09-2009, 06:33 PM
Mark Hunter's son is a possibility for 2011 but I don't know if he's any good.
I was talking to some guys at the footy a few weeks ack who suggested he was a very likely sort. Apparently won the league B&F and had played representative footy or was on the cards for it. I haven't seen anything first hand so i can't vogue for the info.

strebla
30-09-2009, 01:02 PM
I was talking to some guys at the footy a few weeks ack who suggested he was a very likely sort. Apparently won the league B&F and had played representative footy or was on the cards for it. I haven't seen anything first hand so i can't vogue for the info.

Does anyone have any idea what league he plays in i Know Hunter was a Melton boy so is he playing in the Ballaratt league or possibly the Riddle league??:confused:

Sockeye Salmon
30-09-2009, 04:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea what league he plays in i Know Hunter was a Melton boy so is he playing in the Ballaratt league or possibly the Riddle league??:confused:

Western Suburbs I believe

Mitcha
30-09-2009, 06:12 PM
Williamstown Juniors in the WRFL. I think he was in the U/15s this season.

Dog-Pound
30-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Williamstown Juniors in the WRFL. I think he was in the U/15s this season.

16 a's. WRFL doesn't have an under 15's. I'm guessing this is him

http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&client=1-25-8660-86671-10364367&pID=177447909&pname=Lachlan%20Hunter&news_task=DETAIL

strebla
30-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Streb junior would have played against him I will have a chat with him when he gets home I saw saw one game but nothing stands out for me!!!!

comrade
30-09-2009, 06:45 PM
16 a's. WRFL doesn't have an under 15's. I'm guessing this is him

http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&client=1-25-8660-86671-10364367&pID=177447909&pname=Lachlan%20Hunter&news_task=DETAIL

I'd be interested to know his specs - you'd think he's big enough to play forward with some of the bags he's kicked this year.

One to look out for.

strebla
01-10-2009, 06:36 PM
Ok he is a bottom aged player meaning he will be under16's again next year he plays forward flank and on the ball.He is pretty solid and very quick with a great kick.Unfortunately he broke his arm before the finals and was unable to play. He is in the under16's Western Jets development squad.

comrade
01-10-2009, 07:00 PM
Ok he is a bottom aged player meaning he will be under16's again next year he plays forward flank and on the ball.He is pretty solid and very quick with a great kick.Unfortunately he broke his arm before the finals and was unable to play. He is in the under16's Western Jets development squad.

Is he a die hard Bulldog?

Sockeye Salmon
01-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Ok he is a bottom aged player meaning he will be under16's again next year he plays forward flank and on the ball.He is pretty solid and very quick with a great kick.Unfortunately he broke his arm before the finals and was unable to play. He is in the under16's Western Jets development squad.

Does that mean draft eligible 2012?

strebla
01-10-2009, 07:22 PM
No idea Comrade will try to find out and yes Sockeye 2012 will be his draft 2 years behind Libba and Mitch

strebla
01-10-2009, 07:35 PM
Is he a die hard Bulldog?

Yes he is and his dad was the under16's coach this year so will be worth watching next year as they won the flag this year.:)

Mofra
02-10-2009, 10:45 AM
16 a's. WRFL doesn't have an under 15's. I'm guessing this is him

http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&client=1-25-8660-86671-10364367&pID=177447909&pname=Lachlan%20Hunter&news_task=DETAIL
Friggen hell - 8 goals 1, 2 goals 5, the kid's a small Buddy Franklin

comrade
02-10-2009, 11:09 AM
Friggen hell - 8 goals 1, 2 goals 5, the kid's a small Buddy Franklin

The B stands for best, i.e - 1 = BOG, 5 = 5th best.

bulldogsman
02-10-2009, 02:08 PM
30 goals in 10 games pretty damn good for a flanker/mid. The next best was 33 goals in 17 games.

comrade
10-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Calder's B&F was held last night, with our boys polling well.

Libba finished equal third, with Mitch Wallis right behind him finishing fifth. Considering they missed plenty of games, their performances were obviously highly rated by the coaching staff.

Steve McCullum was the winner.

azabob
10-10-2009, 02:41 PM
Calder's B&F was held last night, with our boys polling well.

Libba finished equal third, with Mitch Wallis right behind him finishing fifth. Considering they missed plenty of games, their performances were obviously highly rated by the coaching staff.

Steve McCullum was the winner.

Thanks Comrade, I love it when this thread is updated as I get to look through it all again!

I'd assume that Wallis and Liberatore are both in year 11?

So I assume they have another year of school footy next year?

If this is the case then hopefully with the contact they are having with the club they can work on their fitness earlier on than say a J Grant.

GVGjr
10-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Thanks Comrade, I love it when this thread is updated as I get to look through it all again!

I'd assume that Wallis and Liberatore are both in year 11?

So I assume they have another year of school footy next year?

If this is the case then hopefully with the contact they are having with the club they can work on their fitness earlier on than say a J Grant.

Yes, both will be playing for the Cannons again as their school football allows.