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OLD SCRAGGer
22-09-2009, 12:12 PM
Just wondering if anyone has heard the rumour that we have offered Matthew Lloyd a 2 year contract?:confused::confused:

aker39
22-09-2009, 12:16 PM
Patrick Smith mentioned it on SEN this morning.

Said it was the reason Lloyd has delayed his decision at Essendon

comrade
22-09-2009, 12:20 PM
It would freak me out if I had to yell out 'Go Lloydy'.

Desipura
22-09-2009, 12:22 PM
I believe this is a plan B in case Hall goes to another club ie Collingwood who would be looking to replace Rocca.

chef
22-09-2009, 12:23 PM
He would be my forth choice behind Hall, Bradshaw and Dowler.

We need to end up with at least one of these guys IMO.

Hot_Doggies
22-09-2009, 12:25 PM
KB said they are crossing to the Whitten Oval shortly for a press conference.

Maybe about retirements...

Sockeye Salmon
22-09-2009, 12:28 PM
I would suggest that there was almost no chance of this being true.

Mantis
22-09-2009, 12:28 PM
Don't do it.

He isn't the type of player we need.

On top of that I absolutely despise the guy and could not support him.

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Didn't someone important call him 'Harry high pants' ?

Sedat
22-09-2009, 12:38 PM
Didn't someone important call him 'Harry high pants' ?
'Harry High Pants' is his current coach

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 12:43 PM
'Harry High Pants' is his current coach

OK. See thats the problem at Essendon, can only have 1 high pants wearer between them.

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 12:44 PM
OK. See that the problem at Essendon, can only have 1 high pants wearer between them.

hehe.

mighty_west
22-09-2009, 12:44 PM
I believe this is a plan B in case Hall goes to another club ie Collingwood who would be looking to replace Rocca.

Fatrick Smith suggested this is plan A, Barry Hall being our plan B!

Howabout play Lloydy close to goals, and Big Bad roaming around half foward, if they chose a Premiership chance over $$$?

That said, we might need to add a retirement village into the re-development plans for the likes of Johnno, Aker, Hall & Harry High Pants.

Mantis
22-09-2009, 12:53 PM
Fatrick Smith suggested this is plan A, Barry Hall being our plan B!

Howabout play Lloydy close to goals, and Big Bad roaming around half foward, if they chose a Premiership chance over $$$?

That said, we might need to add a retirement village into the re-development plans for the likes of Johnno, Aker, Hall & Harry High Pants.

If Lloydy was still any good in this role he would still be the starting FF at Essendon.

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 12:58 PM
KB said they are crossing to the Whitten Oval shortly for a press conference.

Maybe about retirements...


And?

Topdog
22-09-2009, 12:59 PM
If Lloydy was still any good in this role he would still be the starting FF at Essendon.

Whilst I hate Llyod he is still more than capable of playing this role.

mighty_west
22-09-2009, 01:13 PM
If Lloydy was still any good in this role he would still be the starting FF at Essendon.

No he wouldn't, Knights has already stated on many occasions that playing youth in the key posts is the way to go with the likes of Gumbleton, Hurley & that big fella.

Even when Sheedy played Lloydy up the ground a few times when he was still at the top of his game, he looked half the player he was at FF.

Mantis
22-09-2009, 01:31 PM
No he wouldn't, Knights has already stated on many occasions that playing youth in the key posts is the way to go with the likes of Gumbleton, Hurley & that big fella.

Even when Sheedy played Lloydy up the ground a few times when he was still at the top of his game, he looked half the player he was at FF.

Neagle? Absolute gumby.

If Lloyd was still capable of kicking 80 goals at FF he would still be playing there.... Coaches want to win games of footy and will pick the best suited to team to allow this to happen.

Knights has chosen youth over experience as a way to say that Lloyd's output wouldn't be much better than the young guys anyway and perhaps the young blokes will get better whereas Lloyd is only going to get worse.

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 01:37 PM
His kicking is getting worse too. His accuracy has dropped off so much its not funny.

Still, for a 4th round pick and him on a near basement salary, I wouldn't say no to him. Even if he only played 12-15 games during the year.

bulldogtragic
22-09-2009, 01:39 PM
Will not support him. One of my most despised players. :(

LostDog
22-09-2009, 01:54 PM
KB said they are crossing to the Whitten Oval shortly for a press conference.

Maybe about retirements...

anything happend with this yet???

Ozza
22-09-2009, 02:20 PM
Will not support him. One of my most despised players. :(

Interested to know why you hate him so much?

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Lloyd because he was in yr 12 at my school when I was in Year 7 - so he was a bit of a hero to everyone! Lloyd and CHF, Lucas and CHB and Jude Bolton on a wing made a pretty handy side.

He always got back down to the school for events and to give us a talk etc.. always seemed like a terrific bloke.

OLD SCRAGGer
22-09-2009, 02:32 PM
Will not support him. One of my most despised players. :(

Not a fan either, but you know, I'd support JACK THE RIPPER if he was playing for the Doggies:)

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 02:34 PM
Not a fan either, but you know, I'd support JACK THE RIPPER if he was playing for the Doggies:)

Jack Riewoldt is coming to the Dogs?

chef
22-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Will not support him. One of my most despised players. :(

I felt the same about Aker before he came to our club. Once he pulled on the Bulldogs jumper that all changed.

Twodogs
22-09-2009, 02:38 PM
I hate Lloyd but I love what he did for his team against Hawthorn in the last round. A player who wants something that badly and is prepared to do what it takes to acheive it would be a welcome addition to our list.

dog town
22-09-2009, 02:44 PM
What happened to this press conference?

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 02:46 PM
If we were able to accept Wayne Campbell as an assistant coach at the doggies, we can tolerate the velvet sledgehammer in a doggies jumper.

Mantis
22-09-2009, 02:51 PM
If we were able to accept Wayne Campbell as an assistant coach at the doggies, we can tolerate the velvet sledgehammer in a doggies jumper.

For me there is a fair bit of difference between cheering for a player you dislike compared to having someone you dislike sitting in the coaches box.

Desipura
22-09-2009, 02:55 PM
If Lloydy was to come and play for us and help contribute to our elusive premiership, my opinion of him would change immediately!

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 03:03 PM
For me there is a fair bit of difference between cheering for a player you dislike compared to having someone you dislike sitting in the coaches box.

Even if that player helps us to a Premiership?

Mantis
22-09-2009, 03:08 PM
Even if that player helps us to a Premiership?

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I don't think Lloyd would help us all that much.

However if he did I would be happy to eat my words.

AndrewP6
22-09-2009, 03:10 PM
I'd rather Bazza, but if Lloyd helps us win, go for it...just don't give him a microphone... Mr Excitement he ain't!

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 03:10 PM
KB said they are crossing to the Whitten Oval shortly for a press conference.

Maybe about retirements...


What happened?! You can't just post something like that and leave us hanging :(

mighty_west
22-09-2009, 03:14 PM
What happened?! You can't just post something like that and leave us hanging :(

Nothing has been reported since young Dex, just hold onto your hat, you're like a kid in a candy store come trade time...:p

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 03:17 PM
Ummmmm Candy.....

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 03:54 PM
If he comes to the Dogs, does that mean he’s unavailable till Round 4, due to the suspension?

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 03:56 PM
And does that go the same for Barry Hall? He also has a suspension hanging over his head right?

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 03:58 PM
If he comes to the Dogs, does that mean he’s unavailable till Round 4, due to the suspension?

Correct. Dont like that baggage..another reason not to pick him up.. :rolleyes:

strebla
22-09-2009, 04:04 PM
And does that go the same for Barry Hall? He also has a suspension hanging over his head right?

No Barry has served his time now he just needs a club

Remi Moses
22-09-2009, 05:48 PM
Heard it mentioned that barry wants 400 a year! Not a hope in hell that a club is going to dish out that amount for a 32 y/o with anger issues

strebla
22-09-2009, 05:53 PM
Heard it mentioned that barry wants 400 a year! Not a hope in hell that a club is going to dish out that amount for a 32 y/o with anger issues

If thats the case he can go somewhere else I want him but I don't want him holding the club to ransom!!

hujsh
22-09-2009, 06:24 PM
The conference was to Thank Brad Gotch (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/season2009/news/newsarticle/tabid/4112/newsid/85159/default.aspx)

bulldogtragic
22-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Heard it mentioned that barry wants 400 a year! Not a hope in hell that a club is going to dish out that amount for a 32 y/o with anger issues
If it's performance based sure, $350,000 or so.

Min. 20 games, min. 60 goals, NO suspensions plus other caveats.

strebla
22-09-2009, 07:38 PM
If it's performance based sure, $350,000 or so.

Min. 20 games, min. 60 goals, NO suspensions plus other caveats.

Agree performance based but i would start it at $250.00 with incentives to $350.00 plus caveats to suspension.

LostDoggy
22-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Min. 20 games, min. 60 goals, NO suspensions plus other caveats.

Like dropping the word 'Mission' everywhere you can.

"Im on a MISSION for a Premiership with the Bulldogs"
or another quirk like "The MISSION is now not impossible...with me on your side"

:D

mighty_west
22-09-2009, 08:19 PM
Like dropping the word 'Mission' everywhere you can.

"Im on a MISSION for a Premiership with the Bulldogs"
or another quirk like "The MISSION is now not impossible...with me on your side"

:D

I am pretty sure Rocket dropped the "M" word in just about each & every presser, i remember watching the after game press conference about the time we signed with Mission, he would have dropped the word at least a dozen times, and you could see him have a bit of a chuckle with Fantasia on the way out.

Scraggers
22-09-2009, 09:13 PM
Agree performance based but i would start it at $250.00 with incentives to $350.00 plus caveats to suspension.

250 bucks to 350 bucks ... I think I can chip in to help out if it's only that much :D

strebla
22-09-2009, 09:20 PM
250 bucks to 350 bucks ... I think I can chip in to help out if it's only that much :D

Oops sorry bad week $250,000.00 to $350,000.00 can you still chop in Scraggers

Scraggers
22-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Oops sorry bad week $250,000.00 to $350,000.00 can you still chop in Scraggers

Geez ... I'll see what I can do :D

AndrewP6
22-09-2009, 10:33 PM
If it's performance based sure, $350,000 or so.

Min. 20 games, min. 60 goals, NO suspensions plus other caveats.

I think you mean MISSION based... :)

LostDoggy
23-09-2009, 09:24 AM
Wonder if Patrick Smith will apologise for getting this wrong as he looks like a goose. 1 day after reporting that the bulldogs were interested in Lloyd there are strong rumours by most media outlets that Lloyd will retire today.

Mantis
23-09-2009, 09:31 AM
Wonder if Patrick Smith will apologise for getting this wrong as he looks like a goose. 1 day after reporting that the bulldogs were interested in Lloyd there are strong rumours by most media outlets that Lloyd will retire today.

More chance of you apologising ES for being incorrect than Patrick. ;)

LostDoggy
23-09-2009, 09:42 AM
More chance of you apologising ES for being incorrect than Patrick. ;)
:)
I apologized to Lantern yesterday.

LostDoggy
23-09-2009, 09:55 AM
About to announce his retirement - heard this on triple M this morning.

LostDoggy
23-09-2009, 10:27 AM
:)
I apologized to Lantern yesterday.

This is true. I am a recipient of an honour not lightly bestowed, and I am greatly humbled. :)

ps. It was also my birthday yesterday (which went a treat), so perhaps the planets were aligned just so.

neodog
23-09-2009, 11:11 AM
Imagine we pick up BOTH Loyd and Hall, two aging Gorilla. We can put 1 (Loyd) in the goal square to play the Kosi/Alastair Lynch role/Bradshaw role and the other 1 (Hall) roam around our attacking 50.

This would be ideal as Loydy will drag a defender or two away from the hotspot and so will Barry if he starts to dominate. This will leave ample of space for Acker and co to run riot. Imagine the delight on Gia/Higgins face when they look up and just need to Bomb it in or kick to advantage of our 2 power forwards.

LostDoggy
23-09-2009, 11:18 AM
Geez Neo, you are a bit slow in the newsfeed - Lloyd has announced his retirement.

LostDoggy
23-09-2009, 11:35 AM
I've always had a soft spot for Lloydy, he was always good with the kids (son is an Essendon supporter (sigh) Different story with Hird who was always up himself. He was well past his prime and we would not be that stupid to pick him up - but I wish him well.

Now Barry on the other hand. He wants to go out of football on a high, he has something to prove, he loves the dogs (his team growing up), he was previously coached by Rocket and Rocket knows how to get the best out of him.
He doesn't have to boot a lot of goals, we already do that, but he does have to take over the hotspot to get that contested mark away from the defenders and let the crumbers do the rest.
If we pick him up in a couple of weeks he can get a full pre season into him, and get the gameplan right before round 1. He doesn't have to be the messiah, he just has to be a presence.

Ozza
23-09-2009, 12:53 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendons-matthew-lloyd-set-to-announce-retirement-from-football/story-e6frf8w6-1225778395911

Great player. Great career. Regardless of whether you like him or not.
He certainly got a hold of us a few times over the years - but is probably retiring at the right time - and finishes a one-club player.

BulldogBelle
23-09-2009, 01:57 PM
Good luck to Lloyd wish him the best - he grew up in my suburb and played his junior footy at the local footy club and to this day is always popping in there to see how things are going.

Whilst he was a Fitzroy supporter in his early years - he also was very interested and had a big soft spot for the Dogs.

AndrewP6
23-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Interesting Knights watched the press conference "from the back of the room"... Lloyd have a body odour problem? ;)

mighty_west
23-09-2009, 02:14 PM
Well done Lloydy on a great career, and he is an Essendon champion, never really hated him like others seem to, i just can't stand little tip rats like Milne or Jeff Farmer.

I still remember Harro taking one for the team by playing 20 metres in front of him to deny him winning the Coleman, and off course Kreta playing whackerty whack whack at his injured hand, was quite comical, and that hit the post in the same game KMac booted 3 on debut to lay claim to be our next white hope...BUH BOW!...and game ending in a draw.