Sheahan's Top 50

[Doc26]

Pleased to see that Shaggy has made it at 50 in Mike Sheahan's Top 50 for '09 whilst Boydy at 15 now cements himself in the elite group. Other notables for the Dogs are Bryza at 18 and Crossy at 48.

[1eyedog]

Can someone throw the list up please not coming up with Google search and I'm interstate.

[The Coon Dog]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/whos-mike-sheahans-no1/story-e6frf9jf-1225782137847

[Doc26]

Can someone throw the list up please not coming up with Google search and I'm interstate.

No list as such yet but you can view 50 to 11 from the attached URL

http://media.heraldsun.com.au/multimedia/2009/10/Sheahans_Top_50_09/heraldsun_interactive_mike_sheahanss_top50.html

[GVGjr]

It's a tough job but I think he's got a good handle on it.
Nice to see Lake and Hargrave get some good recognition.

[Doc26]

It's a tough job but I think he's got a good handle on it.
Nice to see Lake and Hargrave get some good recognition.

Agree, think it's a fair go at it from 50 to 11. Got to love Boydy at 15 ahead of Goddard; Brendan being a wonderful player.

[AndrewP6]

As someone who doesn't pay much attention to opposition teams, what sort of player is Nick Maxwell? He's at 38. And is Mitch Clark THAT good? (24)

[The Coon Dog]

Here is Mike Sheehan's top 50:

1. Gary Ablett - Geel
2. Nick Riewoldt - StK
3. Matthew Scarlett - Geel
4. Lenny Hayes - StK
5. Chris Judd - Carl
6. Joel Selwood - Geel
7. Jonathan Brown - Bris
8. Corey Enright - Geel
9. Nick Dal Santo - StK
10. Brendan Fevola - Carl

11. Jimmy Bartel - Geel
12. Dane Swan - Coll
13. Paul Chapman - Geel
14. Leigh Montagna - StK
15. Matthew Boyd - WB
16. Brendon Goddard - StK
17. Ryan O'Keefe - Syd
18. Brian Lake - WB
19. Marc Murphy - Carl
20. Scott Pendlebury - Coll

21. Sam Mitchell - Haw
22. Simon Black - Bris
23. Joel Corey - Geel
24. Mitch Clark - Bris
25. Simon Goodwin - Adel
26. Luke Power - Bris
27. Bernie Vince - Adel
28. Craig Bolton - Syd
29. Aaron Sandilands - Freo
30. Andrew Mackie - Geel

31. Cyril Rioli - Haw
32. Heath Shaw - Coll
33. Adam Goodes - Syd
34. Sam Fisher - StK
35. Mark LeCras - WCE
36. Jobe Watson - Ess
37. Darren Glass - WCE
38. Nick Maxwell - Coll
39. Darren Jolly - Syd
40. Cameron Ling - Geel

41. Alan Didak - Coll
42. Brad Sewell - Haw
43. Bryce Gibbs - Carl
44. Jason Porplyzia - Adel
45. Leon Davis - Coll
46. Dustin Fletcher - Ess
47. Lance Franklin - Haw
48. Daniel Cross - WB
49. Clinton Jones - StK
50. Ryan Hargrave - WB


The break up is:

9 - Geelong
7 - St.Kilda
6 - Collingwood
4 - Carlton
4 - Western Bulldogs
4 - Sydney
4 - Brisbane
4 - Hawthorn
3 - Adelaide
2 - Essendon
2 - West Coast
1 - Fremantle
0 - North Melbourne
0 - Melbourne
0 - Port Adelaide
0 - Richmond

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Scarlett + Judd too high in those top few IMO.

Judd is always guaranteed a Top 5 spot but he hasn't been near his best since 2006. Still a very gifted player, but he's not Top 5.

I'd have a number of players before Scarlett, too. He's a great player and very good again this season, but I don't think he was that good.

Still - a fairly good effort by Mike. It's not easy. Well done to Boyd too - climbing the ladder year by year.

[LostDoggy]

Agree..Scarlett too high..

Thought Swan, Chappy & Lecras would have been a bit higher otherwise I think its good..

Id like to think Harbrow would be there if it was a Top 60..

Lake & Boydy top 20 = :D

[The Doctor]

49. Clinton Jones - StK



oh please...

[1eyedog]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/whos-mike-sheahans-no1/story-e6frf9jf-1225782137847

Thank you

[Topdog]

As someone who doesn't pay much attention to opposition teams, what sort of player is Nick Maxwell? He's at 38. And is Mitch Clark THAT good? (24)

No he isn't. Watch on the couch and you will feel the pain of that man crush that he has on Clark.

[ledge]

Isnt this over the past year not to do with previous seasons, or is it his top 50 playing now and takes in previous years?

[angelopetraglia]

Can't see how on this season Scarlett can be #3 and Brian Lake can be #18?

You can mount an argument that Scarlett had a better season, but not by that type of gap.

Lake is the better mark, in particular from opposition kicks. Scarlett is a better re-bounder. Lake closed the gap this year.

[1eyedog]

Selwood too high at 6 and so is Heath Shaw, I would be hard pressed to get Shaw in under 40 and Franklin in the top 50 this year is negligible. I thought Picken had a better year than Franklin. As above I thought Lake should have gone top 10. Fevola should be somewhere where Lake is currently placed.

[mjp]

Yeah - but Fevola kicked 89 goals this year and 99 last. He should be in the top 3-5 players listed...he is a difference maker.

Corey Enright at 8? Give it a rest - good player, good season...but when did he actually play on someone (you could say the same thing for Scarlett in some ways). Did Chapman really have a better year/more impact than Montagna? Or even Vince from Adelaide...

The names themselves are fine, but usual story - what is the criteria for the rating?

[Dancin' Douggy]

11 out of the top 16 players are from Geelong and St. Kilda.
Hmmmmmmm.

[The Coon Dog]

11 out of the top 16 players are from Geelong and St. Kilda.
Hmmmmmmm.

We all know Mike falls in & out of love quite quickly.

[Doc26]

49. Clinton Jones - StK



oh please...

Agree. That one was very odd. Had a solid year as a stopper but Andrew Swallow would've been a much better choice.

[BulldogBelle]

We did ok if the Cats and Saints have twice as many top 50 players as us

[Sockeye Salmon]

Clinton Jones > Adam Cooney

[Rocco Jones]

What else can we expect from Sheahan?

He is the type of guy that thinks only 1 or 2 players from a bottom placed side would made the top side's best 22, a notion I find very inane. He would think that the premiers should have at least half of the AA team. In reality, if the top sides were as far ahead as he states, they would be winning by 15 goals a week.

If Corey Enright, Andrew Mackie, Joel Corey and Clinton Jones played for sides that missed out on the finals, they would be nowhere near their rankings. He is so into making a statement, with the top 4 being Cat, Saint, Cat and Saint.

[Mantis]

Rioli at 31??

I must have been watching a different game this year.

[Rocco Jones]

Rioli at 31??

I must have been watching a different game this year.

He is the biggest footy media darling going around by a long shot. Can you imagine what will happen if he actually has an elite season? I think he would end up with his own daily liftout in the Hun.

[Doc26]

What else can we expect from Sheahan?

He is the type of guy that thinks only 1 or 2 players from a bottom placed side would made the top side's best 22, a notion I find very inane. He would think that the premiers should have at least half of the AA team. In reality, if the top sides were as far ahead as he states, they would be winning by 15 goals a week.

If Corey Enright, Andrew Mackie, Joel Corey and Clinton Jones played for sides that missed out on the finals, they would be nowhere near their rankings. He is so into making a statement, with the top 4 being Cat, Saint, Cat and Saint.

Totally agree although the Coreys' are class players, in a different league to Jones and believe they probably do sit in the top 25 regardless of which team they're in. Personally I couldn't separate Hargrave's year with Mackie's.

[Rocco Jones]

Totally agree although the Coreys' are class players, in a different league to Jones and believe they probably do sit in the top 25 regardless of which team they're in. Personally I couldn't separate Hargrave's year with Mackie's.

I think Enright and Corey are guns but there are a lot of guns. They do deserve to be up thereabouts but I think Mike (and most of the media) exaggerates the difference between the best and rest a bit too much. Guns at the lower placed sides cop lots more attention from the opposition.

[Remi Moses]

yes the same bloke who had Collingwood as premiers 3 weeks before the finals:eek:
Clinton Jones in the top 50 Pleeeeease.

[Rocco Jones]

yes the same bloke who had Collingwood as premiers 3 weeks before the finals:eek:
Clinton Jones in the top 50 Pleeeeease.

If Clinton Jones was exactly the same product but played for a side that didn't dominate, he would not be in Mike's top 150.

Mike would be appalled at the lack of Cats and Saints players in the AA team,

[LongWait]

Mike's list looks to have been plagiarised from the hurried effort of a 13 year old on school holidays who posted on the Geelong BF Board. Seriously poor effort Sheahan.

[Bulldog Revolution]

No Cooney is incredible - the first player tagged every week in the third best team in the comp

[GVGjr]

No Cooney is incredible - the first player tagged every week in the third best team in the comp

He had a poor season compared to 2008 but he was still vastly better than a number of players.

[LostDoggy]

Very surprised to see no Pav in there

[Mofra]

He had a poor season compared to 2008 but he was still vastly better than a number of players.
His numbers aren't that much lower than last year.

Put simply, you don't tag duds.

[LostDoggy]

No Coons, no Pav, Goodes in the thirties. If these guys aren't among the top dozen players in the league I'll eat my hat.

Heck, Liam Picken is a better player than Clinton Jones. (Sheahan tipped Ryan Griffen to end up in his top 20 at the beginning of the year and hasn't made the list. Ryan had a better finals campaign than half the guys on his list).

This guy is on the turps.

[Ozza]

The list is for the best 50 of this year - not strictly the best in the league. There is quite a few a disagree with - but thats the beauty of it being subjective.

Have no problem with Clinton Jones being in the best 50 of the year. I think he was. He tagged the oppositions best player every week, did well on all the stars, got a fair bit of the ball and even kicked some goals. Thought he had a good finals series too. For a bloke with limited ability - he had an outstanding year.

[yeah_sampson]

Here is Mike Sheehan's top 50:


36. Jobe Watson - Ess



Not that fussed with the top 50 but serious, Job Watson at 36, not too sure if he's better than cross.

[Mantis]

Not that fussed with the top 50 but serious, Job Watson at 36, not too sure if he's better than cross.

He probably had a better season than Cross that is how it is supposedly judged.

[Sedat]

Sam Gilbert not in the top 50, Ryan Hargrave at #50, Nick Maxwell at #38, Sam Fisher at #34, Andrew Mackie at #30 and Corey Enright at #8. Of all these defenders, Hargrave has had a better season with the possible exception of Enright - Shaggy should have made top 20 and Enright is probably 10 places too high. Amazed that Gilbert didn't even make the list - Fisher and Maxwell both far too high based on 2009 output.

Lake also the equal of Scarlett in 2009 and should have waltzed into the top 10.

Bartel far too high at #11.

[Doc26]

Sam Gilbert not in the top 50, Ryan Hargrave at #50, Nick Maxwell at #38, Sam Fisher at #34, Andrew Mackie at #30 and Corey Enright at #8. Of all these defenders, Hargrave has had a better season with the possible exception of Enright - Shaggy should have made top 20 and Enright is probably 10 places too high. Amazed that Gilbert didn't even make the list - Fisher and Maxwell both far too high based on 2009 output.

Lake also the equal of Scarlett in 2009 and should have waltzed into the top 10.

Bartel far too high at #11.


Sam Fisher was fortunate to make the list this year. Got in on reputation. Gilbert probably missed as he did trail off in the later half and also missed 2 or 3 with injury. His '09 would certainly have been the equal of Fisher's, probably better. Jimmy's probably still in my top 20 but agree that 11 is pushing it. I'm an an Enright fan but as with Jim probably b/w 20 - 15 somewhere. On influence think Chappy could've made the top 10 although did miss a few games late with his hamstring.