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becmatty
08-08-2010, 08:13 PM
A MASSIVE game against Geelong this round.

Expect changes this week with a number of stars set to return.

Likely Ins: Harbrow, Murphy Higgins, Minson and possibly Ward
In Danger: Wood, Hill, Jones, Roughead and possibly Moles

Wood did some important things in the final few minutes and will be stiff to be dropped, but I think Harbrow will replace him.

Jones has been good, and pleasing to have two games experience which will be great for his development and I look forward to him making an impact in the coming years.

GVGjr
08-08-2010, 08:21 PM
Hard to drop Eagleton on his performance

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
08-08-2010, 08:23 PM
A MASSIVE game against Geelong this round.

Expect changes this week with a number of stars set to return.

Likely Ins: Harbrow, Murphy Higgins, Minson and possibly Ward
In Danger: Wood, Hill, Jones, Roughead and possibly Moles

I'd seriously doubt we would make 5 changes,
For me it's:
Harbrow, Higgins and Murphy to come in.
Jones, Moles and Hill to go out.

divvydan
08-08-2010, 08:25 PM
Yeah, Eagleton was very good today, did get space at times but won some in close ball too, something which I think he's improved on since playing at Willi since the smaller grounds there mean there's more contested situations.

Not sure we'd want to bring back all five players in the same week, maybe bring back Higgins, Harbrow and Murphy next week, probably for Hill, Jones and Moles.

Given Geelong's fwd line, I'd like to see Wood kept on next week.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 08:25 PM
Hard to drop Eagleton on his performance

Yep, he was desperate tonight - more tenacious and put the ball in the danger zone constantly.

He had 26 touches - 11 contested - and has moved ahead of Moles again...

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 08:26 PM
They won't drop Roughy.

GVGjr
08-08-2010, 08:30 PM
They won't drop Roughy.

Not on performance but I wonder if they would for team balance?
There might be some merit in playing the Cats with just one genuine ruckman.

cambo
08-08-2010, 08:33 PM
HILL has to go and never come back!! shows no intensity and no desire and is slack!

becmatty
08-08-2010, 08:38 PM
Not on performance but I wonder if they would for team balance?
There might be some merit in playing the Cats with just one genuine ruckman.

I think it would be a huge ask to expect Hudson to go it alone.

GVGjr
08-08-2010, 08:39 PM
I think it would be a huge ask to expect Hudson to go it alone.

Hudson and Everitt against Ottens and Hawkins? I don't think that is a huge risk for us.

mighty_west
08-08-2010, 08:42 PM
Hudson and Everitt against Ottens and Hawkins? I don't think that is a huge risk for us.

Tommy Williams could also have stints in the ruck if required.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 08:43 PM
Hudson and Everitt against Ottens and Hawkins? I don't think that is a huge risk for us.

Hmmmm, I'm not a massive wrap for Everitt in the ruck. I think we need either Roughy or Minson a a specialist 2nd ruckman.

Greystache
08-08-2010, 08:49 PM
Not on performance but I wonder if they would for team balance?
There might be some merit in playing the Cats with just one genuine ruckman.

Might be a good week to rest Hudson, he has a big workload to carry in the finals and coming of a short break in wet conditions and interstate you'd think he'd be tired.

Tom Hawkins last night looked like he could hardly run out a quarter.

chef
08-08-2010, 08:50 PM
Hudson and Everitt against Ottens and Hawkins? I don't think that is a huge risk for us.

Can't see him holding his spot if Murphy, Ward, Harbrow and Higgins(that's a lot to come back in in one week:eek:) are right to go this week, plus Roughead has done enough to hold his spot and adds another dimension to our side.

bornadog
08-08-2010, 08:52 PM
Hmmmm, I'm not a massive wrap for Everitt in the ruck. I think we need either Roughy or Minson a a specialist 2nd ruckman.

I agree.

In: Harbrow, Murphy, Minson, Higgins

Out: Moles, Hill, Hudson, Jones

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 08:53 PM
Not on performance but I wonder if they would for team balance?
There might be some merit in playing the Cats with just one genuine ruckman.

Agree on that, but i wonder if Geelong will recall Blake or West.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 08:55 PM
In: Harbrow (if available), Murphy, Higgins
Out: Wood, Hill, _________

It's going to be so hard to select this week.

chef
08-08-2010, 08:56 PM
In: Harbrow (if available), Murphy, Higgins
Out: Wood, Hill, _________

It's going to be so hard to select this week.

Can I ask why?

ledge
08-08-2010, 08:58 PM
Hudson hasnt had a rest all year, Minson doing well, maybe swap.
Higgins. Harbrow and Ward are in our best 22 but depends on what Eade thinks, do we show Geelong all of our cards this week, and does it matter if we lose a close one?
We will play Pies or Cats either way at the G in first final.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 08:59 PM
Can I ask why?

It's either him or Harbrow, which one would you rather in the team?

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:00 PM
There is no way Wood should be dropped. Hill 100% out though.

ledge
08-08-2010, 09:00 PM
Oops I missed Murphy.

chef
08-08-2010, 09:04 PM
It's either him or Harbrow, which one would you rather in the team?

Why can't we have both in the team, especially against Geelong who have probably the best group of small and medium forwards in the league. It's not like they are only able to play the one position.

Hotdog60
08-08-2010, 09:06 PM
I wouldn't drop Wood, also I think he maybe used as a defensive forward to cover Varco.

Who in our forward line can run with Varco, he was one of Geelong's prime movers this week.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:07 PM
Why can't we have both in the team, especially against Geelong who have probably the best group of small and medium forwards in the league. It's not like they are only able to play the one position.

If that's the case, you would have to drop one of Everitt or Jones. Who both seemed to play a lot better today, as opposed to Wood.

I didn't get to watch the game today, only listened to parts of the radio call on 3AW. But looking at the stats, Wood had 7 disposals at 43% efficiency. I know the conditions weren't the best, but it seemed as though he had a down match today.

Mofra
08-08-2010, 09:08 PM
Out: Moles, Hill
In: Murphy, Harbrow

I'm not convinced of Moles' ability to deliver the ball under pressure.

No way in hell I would consider dropping Wood - his drive from the backline will be vital against the Cats.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:09 PM
Out: Moles, Hill
In: Murphy, Harbrow

I'm not convinced of Moles' ability to deliver the ball under pressure.

No way in hell I would consider dropping Wood - his drive from the backline will be vital against the Cats.

Higgins misses out?

Hotdog60
08-08-2010, 09:10 PM
If that's the case, you would have to drop one of Everitt or Jones. Who both seemed to play a lot better today, as opposed to Wood.

I didn't get to watch the game today, only listened to parts of the radio call on 3AW. But looking at the stats, Wood had 7 disposals at 43% efficiency. I know the conditions weren't the best, but it seemed as though he had a down match today.

I think there were some 1%'ers in there that don't go on the stat sheet.

Mofra
08-08-2010, 09:13 PM
Higgins misses out?
Yes. The only teams that beat Geelong this year are those who can run the ball with pace in the F50 - Higgins is playing under duress and his lack of pace could be a liablity against Geelong.
Jones' defensive pressure inside the F50 means he keeps his spot.

lemmon
08-08-2010, 09:15 PM
If that's the case, you would have to drop one of Everitt or Jones. Who both seemed to play a lot better today, as opposed to Wood.

I didn't get to watch the game today, only listened to parts of the radio call on 3AW. But looking at the stats, Wood had 7 disposals at 43% efficiency. I know the conditions weren't the best, but it seemed as though he had a down match today.

And yet his contest with Tippet in the last probably cemented the win for us. His stats are probably a touch misleading relative to the impact he did have on the game.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 09:15 PM
I wouldn't drop Wood, also I think he maybe used as a defensive forward to cover Varco.

Who in our forward line can run with Varco, he was one of Geelong's prime movers this week.

I think it would be foolish to have a mindset of negating a dashing defender at the expense of an attacking/goal kicking option. Higgins, Gia or Ward (if selected) will be able to negate Varco, while still being able to hurt the Cats on the scoreboard. This is something Wood is not as effective at, and I think he will make way for some of the returning players this week.

Rocket conceeded in the post-match press conference that although Wood was terrific in a few vital passages late in the game, he was a little off the pace of the match, especially in the first half. I think a return to Willy is not a bad option, with Harbrow, Murph and Higgins really bolstering our stocks...

bornadog
08-08-2010, 09:15 PM
Yes. The only teams that beat Geelong this year are those who can run the ball with pace in the F50 - Higgins is playing under duress and his lack of pace could be a liablity against Geelong.
Jones' defensive pressure inside the F50 means he keeps his spot.

Jones had a good first half but only had a couple of disposals in the second half. His fitness is still lacking for this level. I prefer Higgins in and Jones out.

Hotdog60
08-08-2010, 09:20 PM
I think it would be foolish to have a mindset of negating a dashing defender at the expense of an attacking/goal kicking option. Higgins, Gia or Ward (if selected) will be able to negate Varco, while still being able to hurt the Cats on the scoreboard. This is something Wood is not as effective at, and I think he will make way for some of the returning players this week.

Rocket conceeded in the post-match press conference that although Wood was terrific in a few vital passages late in the game, he was a little off the pace of the match, especially in the first half. I think a return to Willy is not a bad option, with Harbrow, Murph and Higgins really bolstering our stocks...

I'm ready concerned that we won't be able to contain Varco, he was about the only player keeping Geelong in touch with Collingwood. I fear that Gia and definitely Higgins won't have the leg speed to go with him.

comrade
08-08-2010, 09:20 PM
Yes, Eagleton played well but do you really think Geelong will let him run around unchecked like the Crows did?

If he does play, expect him to have little impact, like the past 5 or 6 times we've played a top flight team.

Who knows if Moles is a better option, but remind me what the definition of stupidity is again?

DOG GOD
08-08-2010, 09:23 PM
Cant believe some are mentioning Wood as an out. I thought he was terrific today. Showed great spirit and really thru himself in the contests. NO WAY will he be dropped.

In: Murph and Harbrow
Out: Hill and Jones

bornadog
08-08-2010, 09:25 PM
Cant believe some are mentioning Wood as an out. I thought he was terrific today. Showed great spirit and really thru himself in the contests. NO WAY will he be dropped.

In: Murph and Harbrow
Out: Hill and Jones

Higgins will come straight back in.

Raw Toast
08-08-2010, 09:26 PM
Hudson hasnt had a rest all year, Minson doing well, maybe swap.
Higgins. Harbrow and Ward are in our best 22 but depends on what Eade thinks, do we show Geelong all of our cards this week, and does it matter if we lose a close one?
We will play Pies or Cats either way at the G in first final.

I think the stakes are relatively high this week - firstly if we win then a top 4 place is pretty much assured, secondly it would be very nice to beat someone in the top 4 before we get to the finals.

That said, I don't think we'll show all our cards this week, but I do think the result matters.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:28 PM
I think the stakes are relatively high this week - firstly if we win then a top 4 place is pretty much assured, secondly it would be very nice to beat someone in the top 4 before we get to the finals.

That said, I don't think we'll show all our cards this week, but I do think the result matters.

There is a slight possibility that we could be sitting 2nd by the end of next week, very slight though.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 09:29 PM
Yes, Eagleton played well but do you really think Geelong will let him run around unchecked like the Crows did?

If he does play, expect him to have little impact, like the past 5 or 6 times we've played a top flight team.

Who knows if Moles is a better option, but remind me what the definition of stupidity is again?

Unchecked? Watch the replay and I think you will find that contrary to Eagleton's usual style, he played a more inside role and clocked up a career high 11 contested possessions. The Crows didn't give him much latitude; he won the ball on his own merit through tough and spirited endeavour.

With only a few matches left in his career, I think he realises that he must balance his outside run and carry style with a harder edge. He achieved that today and I am hopeful that it wil flow into next week...

Rance Fan
08-08-2010, 09:31 PM
Stokes,Byrnes, Varcoe for Cats up forward. We will need plenty of speed to combat and keep up with them. Maybe Stokes aint that fast, but will have to watch Stevie J also. Dont think their big forwards will bother us too much.
I think we only make changes if the guys that come in or play are 100%.

Scraggers
08-08-2010, 09:31 PM
In:- Murphy, Harbrow (if fit), Higgins
Out :- Jones, Eagleton, Hill

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:33 PM
Do we need to keep Jones in the team, just so it frees up Hall?

Geelong will have a field day zoning off & double teaming Hall, if there isn't another tall option down there & our small forwards aren't doing the business.

chef
08-08-2010, 09:34 PM
If that's the case, you would have to drop one of Everitt or Jones. Who both seemed to play a lot better today, as opposed to Wood.

I didn't get to watch the game today, only listened to parts of the radio call on 3AW. But looking at the stats, Wood had 7 disposals at 43% efficiency. I know the conditions weren't the best, but it seemed as though he had a down match today.

I would have Jones, Everitt, Moles and Eagleton going out of that side before Wood and I am not sure you can judge him by disposals, his 1%'s today were pretty good especially the last one against Tippett in the final minutes.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 09:35 PM
Do we need to keep Jones in the team, just so it frees up Hall?

Geelong will have a field day zoning off & double teaming Hall, if there isn't another tall option down there & our small forwards aren't doing the business.

Grant and Minson/Roughy floating forward will be more than adequate. Jones is not required.

strebla
08-08-2010, 09:37 PM
IN:Murphy and Harbrow
OUT: Hill Jones
If wood or Roughhead miss out well thats just wrong as for resting Hudson I dare you all to tell him!!!!

Mantis
08-08-2010, 09:38 PM
I would be resting Grant & Hudson, both of these guys need a rest and after playing a game in tough conditions and with a 6 day break coming up I think it's well deserved.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 09:43 PM
I would be resting Grant & Hudson, both of these guys need a rest and after playing a game in tough conditions and with a 6 day break coming up I think it's well deserved.

Would it not be better to do this in Round 21 Vs Swans? I think it is vital to expose Grant to an intense, finals-like match like this in the lead-up to September.

Also, the top four is not sewen up just yet, and I think we have to have our best cattle on he park to topple Geelong and guarantee the double chance.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:47 PM
If that's the case, you would have to drop one of Everitt or Jones. Who both seemed to play a lot better today, as opposed to Wood.

I didn't get to watch the game today, only listened to parts of the radio call on 3AW. But looking at the stats, Wood had 7 disposals at 43% efficiency. I know the conditions weren't the best, but it seemed as though he had a down match today.

Sorry to pick you out JH but Easton Wood was fantastic today, it was wet and hard and stats sometimes don't show the full picture. That last contest he made was brilliant and there is no way he will be dropped again this year!!!!!

becmatty
08-08-2010, 09:51 PM
Sorry to pick you out JH but Easton Wood was fantastic today, it was wet and hard and stats sometimes don't show the full picture. That last contest he made was brilliant and there is no way he will be dropped again this year!!!!!

Yes, there were some flashes of excellence, but he turned the ball over on the few occassions he got the ball and will struggle to retain his spot. The contest you speak of may just have saved him, but judging on Eade's comments, I think he will be a casualty to the long list of returnees.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 09:59 PM
Yes, there were some flashes of excellence, but he turned the ball over on the few occassions he got the ball and will struggle to retain his spot. The contest you speak of may just have saved him, but judging on Eade's comments, I think he will be a casualty to the long list of returnees.

Didnt get to hear Eade, I know he was wasteful at times but was really hard at it and I was told Monday that Harbrow is finished with us (Really hoping I was told a Lie) but if it's true then theres no way Wood will be dropped.

Mantis
08-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Would it not be better to do this in Round 21 Vs Swans? I think it is vital to expose Grant to an intense, finals-like match like this in the lead-up to September.

Also, the top four is not sewen up just yet, and I think we have to have our best cattle on he park to topple Geelong and guarantee the double chance.

No, I think it should be done this week which is why I posted the suggestion.

Coming off a tough road trip I would hate us to play some of our guys who are starting to look tired and I place Hudson & Grant in that group.

becmatty
08-08-2010, 10:05 PM
Didnt get to hear Eade, I know he was wasteful at times but was really hard at it and I was told Monday that Harbrow is finished with us (Really hoping I was told a Lie) but if it's true then theres no way Wood will be dropped.

Do you honestly believe that Harbrow's commitment to the club in 2011 will impact on his selection this year? Do you think we would compromise our campaign to win the flag?

He copped a corked thigh and is 100% returning to the side against Geelong.

BulldogBelle
08-08-2010, 10:28 PM
I'd seriously doubt we would make 5 changes,
For me it's:
Harbrow, Higgins and Murphy to come in.
Jones, Moles and Hill to go out.

l run with you on that!

mjp
08-08-2010, 10:29 PM
He copped a corked thigh and is 100% returning to the side against Geelong.

Is it a virus, a shoulder or a quad?

The ministry of misinformation is in full swing re Harbrow.

Murphy'sLore
08-08-2010, 10:30 PM
Is the shoulder thing a complete red herring? He always plays with his shoulders strapped.

Rocco Jones
08-08-2010, 10:38 PM
Is it a virus, a shoulder or a quad?

The ministry of misinformation is in full swing re Harbrow.

I heard a rumour that if you play the list of reasons given for Harbrow being out backwards, you will hear "he is off to Gold Coast".

SlimPickens
08-08-2010, 11:21 PM
If Geelong are susceptable to anything it is speed. Although they move the ball quick, they are not a quick side (pace wise). Carlton and Collingwood in particular trouble them with pace.

So I would keep Wood in the side and bring in Harbrow with Moles and Everitt the ones to miss. If you heard Rockets press conference, he was a big wrap for Jones' game today.

LostDoggy
08-08-2010, 11:22 PM
Sorry to pick you out JH but Easton Wood was fantastic today, it was wet and hard and stats sometimes don't show the full picture. That last contest he made was brilliant and there is no way he will be dropped again this year!!!!!

That's ok :)

I just feel someone who is supposed to give us drive & run from our backline, 7 disposals at 43% efficiency isn't really up to standard. His 1% efforts might be something which stands out, but i don't think it will save him from getting a return to Williamstown. As becmatty was saying, Eade seems to be thinking along the same lines.

I am only basing this on Harbrow being ready to go, if he isn't, Wood should stay in the team.

boydogs
08-08-2010, 11:49 PM
Yes, Eagleton played well but do you really think Geelong will let him run around unchecked like the Crows did?

If he does play, expect him to have little impact, like the past 5 or 6 times we've played a top flight team.

Who knows if Moles is a better option, but remind me what the definition of stupidity is again?

Agreed

In: Murphy, Harbrow, Higgins
Out: Eagleton, Hill, Jones

Go_Dogs
09-08-2010, 12:03 AM
And yet his contest with Tippet in the last probably cemented the win for us. His stats are probably a touch misleading relative to the impact he did have on the game.

That was a very exciting piece of play by Wood.

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 12:18 AM
Keep Wood in with the class Geelong have down the half back line we need him there. Murphy needs to be down back there also

Doc26
09-08-2010, 01:06 AM
Would it not be better to do this in Round 21 Vs Swans? I think it is vital to expose Grant to an intense, finals-like match like this in the lead-up to September.

Also, the top four is not sewen up just yet, and I think we have to have our best cattle on he park to topple Geelong and guarantee the double chance.

Mick Malthouse was open in saying the Magpies would field their best available 22 against Geelong. We should be doing the same. It will give us an opportunity to see where we're at against the best and especially to assess any weaknesses and fine tune where needed. We should give ourselves the best opportunity to be competitive against the Cats on the rebound to avoid at any cost a big loss against them and what this could do to the psyche of a winning Bulldog unit.

lemmon
09-08-2010, 01:16 AM
Mick Malthouse was open in saying the Magpies would field their best available 22 against Geelong. We should be doing the same. It will give us an opportunity to see where we're at against the best and especially to assess any weaknesses and fine tune where needed. We should give ourselves the best opportunity to be competitive against the Cats on the rebound to avoid at any cost a big loss against them and what this could do to the psyche of a winning Bulldog unit.

But I think the coaches have to find a balance between being competitive and not giving too much away for when the real stuff starts. Premierships aren't won in August and I think how we play will be more important then the result on Saturday.

becmatty
09-08-2010, 03:41 AM
On afl.com website Eade stated that he expects four changes for the game against the Cats - Higgins, Ward, Murphy and Harbrow.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99925/default.aspx

I guess that suggsts all the conspiracy theories about Harbrow are hot air.

It will be great to get those players back, and possibly bring in Minson and Hahn the week after, to provide a timely rest for Hudson and Grant.

On that basis, my revised inclusions for this week would be:

In: Higgins, Ward, Murphy and Harbrow
Out: Wood, Moles, Hill, Jones

Hotdog60
09-08-2010, 06:28 AM
That was a very exciting piece of play by Wood.

Also I think it was in the 1st or 2nd quarter that he's 2nd and 3rd efforts resulted in the goal to the Eagle from Grant.

ReLoad
09-08-2010, 08:50 AM
Sadly its time to make a big call.

I know conditions were not right and i know his mind clearly wasnt there, but Josh Hill, its time for you to go.

You promise so much, you have some amazing skills, your acceleration is great, but you just do not work hard enough!

Yes i am but a couch spud and i have no idea what its like to do what you do at that level, but i can clearly tell your not committed enough at the contest. You do not do the small things, with your body size and your speed, if you were even remotely more defensively minded you could dominate, yet you dont.

I'm afraid Joshie ol chap, your time has come, You've been leapfrogged by Stickman and now young Jonesy, are you in our best 22? Nope i don think so.

So do me a favour, prove me wrong, DOMINATE a game a Willy, kick 6, have a hand in 4 others, lay 15 tackles and prove to me and all the others just how bloody good you are.

So:
Out goes: Hill, Hudson (needs a rest), Moles(unsure about his ability to recover from the worst case of flu i've seen and the game he had to play on sunday)
in comes: Murphy, Minson, Harbrow

just my .02 Peoples Republic of West Footscray Roubles.

Mantis
09-08-2010, 09:11 AM
Sadly its time to make a big call.

I know conditions were not right and i know his mind clearly wasnt there, but Josh Hill, its time for you to go.

You promise so much, you have some amazing skills, your acceleration is great, but you just do not work hard enough!

Yes i am but a couch spud and i have no idea what its like to do what you do at that level, but i can clearly tell your not committed enough at the contest. You do not do the small things, with your body size and your speed, if you were even remotely more defensively minded you could dominate, yet you dont.

I'm afraid Joshie ol chap, your time has come, You've been leapfrogged by Stickman and now young Jonesy, are you in our best 22? Nope i don think so.

So do me a favour, prove me wrong, DOMINATE a game a Willy, kick 6, have a hand in 4 others, lay 15 tackles and prove to me and all the others just how bloody good you are.

So:
Out goes: Hill, Hudson (needs a rest), Moles(unsure about his ability to recover from the worst case of flu i've seen and the game he had to play on sunday)
in comes: Murphy, Minson, Harbrow

just my .02 Peoples Republic of West Footscray Roubles.

How is dropping Hill a big call?

He only played because Murphy had the flu.

ReLoad
09-08-2010, 09:12 AM
How is dropping Hill a big call?

He only played because Murphy had the flu.

I'm not just talking about dropping him, id take it through to its logical conclusion, trade him.

Desipura
09-08-2010, 09:17 AM
Jones had a good first half but only had a couple of disposals in the second half. His fitness is still lacking for this level. I prefer Higgins in and Jones out.
Im really surprised that people would think Jones should be dropped. The guy was a target for us up forward, he chased and he was awarded a free kick right in front due to his ability to get in front. The Crows defender was all over him yet Jones was able to keep his ground.
Jones gives our forward line something we have not had in a long time, a tall marking target.
He is cool under pressure, loved the short pass in the 1st qtr. The guy is not overrawed at all hence why he should remain in the side.

In: Minson, Murphy, Ward & Harbrow
Out: Hudson, Grant (rested), Hill & Eagleton

Eagleton was our 2nd best IMHO, playing against the Crows who zone off, he tends to play well over there as Mantis pointed out last week. Unfortunately he will not be afforded that luxury against the Cats who like to play more man on man. For this reason, Moles plays ahead of him......just
Higgins to have another weeks rest.

Desipura
09-08-2010, 09:21 AM
He copped a corked thigh and is 100% returning to the side against Geelong.
Now I am really worried that he may not play. :D

mjp
09-08-2010, 10:18 AM
just my .02 Peoples Republic of West Footscray Roubles.

You know if you add this to your profile you wont have to type it every time?

mjp
09-08-2010, 10:25 AM
On afl.com website Eade stated that he expects four changes for the game against the Cats - Higgins, Ward, Murphy and Harbrow.



Eade said it? On the AFL web site? Well, I guess that is what will happen then.

For 4 to come in then 4 must go out...I am not sure about that.

Ward hasn't played for the best part of a month and was not exactly setting the world on fire - if he plays it should be at Williamstown.

Harbrow is surrounded by smoke at the moment - first it was a virus, then a shoulder, then a cork (suffered where exactly???)...

Higgins has clearly been struggling with some kind of groin issue....

Let's see what the week brings.

G-Mo77
09-08-2010, 10:29 AM
I'm probably beating a dead horse here but Josh Hill really didn't do himself any favors yesterday. He's a certainty to miss next week you would think, the other would be unlucky. I think it will only be Murphy and Harbrow back.

Why are people suggesting resting players? This is a must win game to prove to the doubters we are the real deal and to cement that top 4 spot. Yesterdays win gave us a game's break on Freo but it's not sealed yet. A win against the Cats would set that top 4 spot in stone.

mjp
09-08-2010, 11:14 AM
Why are people suggesting resting players?

Probably because Eade said he would rest players during the run home and hasn't done it yet. I am with you though - this is not the week...

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 11:36 AM
Barring necessity Josh Hill shouldnt play again this season, and only played due to players dropping out anyway. He has the talent but needs something mentally to change over the summer to take advantage of the places in the team that should open up next year.

Without a doubt we should rest Hudson this week. Liam Jones can stay for another week too, let him play with the big boys.

Hard to tell with outs because of the epidemic. But Josh for certain is OUT.

My preference:
In: Minson, Ward, Higgins, Murphy
Out: Hudson, Hill, Moles(stiff, played ok considering), Eagle(Great game on the weekend but not the players vs Geelong, can stay in if Ward isn't right)

Mantis
09-08-2010, 11:37 AM
Why are people suggesting resting players? This is a must win game to prove to the doubters we are the real deal and to cement that top 4 spot. Yesterdays win gave us a game's break on Freo but it's not sealed yet. A win against the Cats would set that top 4 spot in stone.

Because we are coming off a tough slogging game, have a 6 day break and I would prefer the rested players to have a couple of games leading into the finals.

We will prove if we are the real deal in the finals, not before.

Sockeye Salmon
09-08-2010, 11:38 AM
Probably because Eade said he would rest players during the run home and hasn't done it yet. I am with you though - this is not the week...

I'd certainly rest Hudson this week. Short break, interstate travel, wet ground and Minson had a good one for Willi. If he needs a rest - and Eade has said he does at some stage - this is the week.

I'd just about rest Grant too, and play Harbrow forward.

Depends on who comes up and who doesn't.

Nuggety Back Pocket
09-08-2010, 01:16 PM
On afl.com website Eade stated that he expects four changes for the game against the Cats - Higgins, Ward, Murphy and Harbrow.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99925/default.aspx

I guess that suggsts all the conspiracy theories about Harbrow are hot air.

It will be great to get those players back, and possibly bring in Minson and Hahn the week after, to provide a timely rest for Hudson and Grant.

On that basis, my revised inclusions for this week would be:

In: Higgins, Ward, Murphy and Harbrow
Out: Wood, Moles, Hill, Jones

I would only make the two changes bringing back Murphy and Harbrow for Hill and Moles.
We need to retain both Wood and Jones. Higgins hasn't done nearly enough to be an automatic selection whilst Ward who has missed most of the season needs to find form and fitness back at Williamstown. Eagleton was terrific against the Crows whilst Everitt did enough to hold his place in the side. Whilst Ben Hudson could do with a break following his wonderful season, you would be reluctant to do it this week against the Cats.

bornadog
09-08-2010, 01:45 PM
Im really surprised that people would think Jones should be dropped. The guy was a target for us up forward, he chased and he was awarded a free kick right in front due to his ability to get in front. The Crows defender was all over him yet Jones was able to keep his ground.
Jones gives our forward line something we have not had in a long time, a tall marking target.
He is cool under pressure, loved the short pass in the 1st qtr. The guy is not overrawed at all hence why he should remain in the side.

In: Minson, Murphy, Ward & Harbrow
Out: Hudson, Grant (rested), Hill & Eagleton

Eagleton was our 2nd best IMHO, playing against the Crows who zone off, he tends to play well over there as Mantis pointed out last week. Unfortunately he will not be afforded that luxury against the Cats who like to play more man on man. For this reason, Moles plays ahead of him......just
Higgins to have another weeks rest.

I think Jones was terrfic in the first half but unfortunately he faded in the second half. The coach has already stated that Jones fitness level isn't at AFL standard yet, however, playing him for a couple of games has given him the taste for it. This kid is going to be good for us in many years to come.

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 07:15 PM
Do you honestly believe that Harbrow's commitment to the club in 2011 will impact on his selection this year? Do you think we would compromise our campaign to win the flag?

He copped a corked thigh and is 100% returning to the side against Geelong.

I really hope your right I guess we will know at training.

No I don't think that the MC would leave him out even IF he has told them, but what if the players didn't want him in? Personally I would be peeved if he wasn't allowed to play even if he was leaving us. I rate him very highly!

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 07:25 PM
That's ok :)

I just feel someone who is supposed to give us drive & run from our backline, 7 disposals at 43% efficiency isn't really up to standard. His 1% efforts might be something which stands out, but i don't think it will save him from getting a return to Williamstown. As becmatty was saying, Eade seems to be thinking along the same lines.

I am only basing this on Harbrow being ready to go, if he isn't, Wood should stay in the team.

Yea it doesn't paint a very good picture of his day, maybe I was still a little excited from his last effort, it was brilliant though. :D

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 07:49 PM
In: Murph, Higgins, Harbrow
Out: Hill, Jones, Wood/Moles coin toss

becmatty
09-08-2010, 07:57 PM
A few have mentioned dropping Everitt. If he plays, who would he best match up on?

Go_Dogs
09-08-2010, 08:02 PM
A few have mentioned dropping Everitt. If he plays, who would he best match up on?

If he played, he play forwards so Geelong would match up on him.

I tend to think they might try someone like Mackie on him, which could be a fairly good match up for us too.

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 09:52 PM
Is Wood in front of Hargreave?

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 09:56 PM
Given his moderate form is Higgins an automatic in if fit?

The Bulldogs Bite
09-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Given his moderate form is Higgins an automatic in if fit?

He shouldn't be, but he will be.

Rocco Jones
09-08-2010, 10:08 PM
Given his moderate form is Higgins an automatic in if fit?


He shouldn't be, but he will be.

Yep.

Sockeye Salmon
09-08-2010, 10:34 PM
Is Wood in front of Hargreave?

Not even close.

becmatty
09-08-2010, 10:45 PM
Given his moderate form is Higgins an automatic in if fit?

Despite moderate form, I still think his performances have been well within the top 22. Because we have high expectations of him, which he has not met this season, he has come under heavy criticism. Remember, he has been restricted due to injury, and if this gets better, so will he.

I will repeat that despite this, his output has still been servicable and he is an automatic selection. He is capable of anything and I think a big return and some quality and consistency is just around the corner.

I think we would all love to see Higgins in full flight and fingers crossed that he plays this week and his form curve rises...

becmatty
09-08-2010, 10:53 PM
Is Wood in front of Hargreave?

Hargrave has been very good after an indifferent first half of the season. He is miles ahead of Wood.

Hargreave is an integral part of our backline and vital to our success.

As for Wood, he is still developing and can go missing for extended periods of time, as was the case on Sunday. His attack on the ball and "1%ers" cannot be questioned, but he is far from an established member of our best 22 at the moment. I think he has the attributes to be a star of the future, but just for now, I am comfortable with him slipping back to Williamstown.

Doc26
09-08-2010, 10:57 PM
Despite moderate form, I still think his performances have been well within the top 22. Because we have high expectations of him, which he has not met this season, he has come under heavy critisism.

I will repeat that despite this, his output has still been servicable and he is an automatic selection. He is capable of anything and I think a big return and some quality and consistency is just around the corner.

I think we would all love to see Higgins in full flight and fingers crossed that he plays this week and his form curve rises...

Well I do agree with your last sentence. Shaun has more credit with the MC than has probably been warranted and would appear an automatic selection in their eyes and no doubt with a number of supporters. In Shaun's defence his injuries have crippled his mind and body and needs a big pre season IF his body permits it.

bornadog
09-08-2010, 11:20 PM
Well I do agree with your last sentence. Shaun has more credit with the MC than has probably been warranted and would appear an automatic selection in their eyes and no doubt with a number of supporters. In Shaun's defence his injuries have crippled his mind and body and needs a big pre season IF his body permits it.

Played one of his best games against North. I think he is an auto selection.

becmatty
09-08-2010, 11:26 PM
Is anyone attending training tonight?

If so, it would be great if you can update us on the status of Murph, Higgins, Harbrow and Ward in particular.

I am struggling to trust the injury reports in the papers, and would be great to hear it first hand from a WOOFer...

LostDoggy
09-08-2010, 11:26 PM
Hargrave has been very good after an indifferent first half of the season. He is miles ahead of Wood.

Hargreave is an integral part of our backline and vital to our success.

As for Wood, he is still developing and can go missing for extended periods of time, as was the case on Sunday. His attack on the ball and "1%ers" cannot be questioned, but he is far from an established member of our best 22 at the moment. I think he has the attributes to be a star of the future, but just for now, I am comfortable with him slipping back to Williamstown.

Its probably not a choice between them but I think Wood could be the difference in the finals with his dash and maturity for only a 10 gamer

GVGjr
09-08-2010, 11:27 PM
Is anyone attending training tonight?

If so, it would be great if you can update us on the status of Murph, Higgins, Harbrow and Ward in particular.

I am struggling to trust the injury reports in the papers, and would be great to hear it first hand from a WOOFer...


I believe there was some light training this morning including Harbrow and Hahn having some sprints. I have no other updates though

bornadog
09-08-2010, 11:30 PM
Hargrave has been very good after an indifferent first half of the season. He is miles ahead of Wood.

Hargreave is an integral part of our backline and vital to our success.



becmatty please give some respect to spelling of players names, its not difficult.

becmatty
09-08-2010, 11:37 PM
becmatty please give some respect to spelling of players names, its not difficult.

Haha. Its an ingrained habit from the days of Daniel Hargreaves!

But seriously bornadog, get over it. It would be like me pointing out that you have incorrectly used a comma rather than a colon or full stop in your quote above.

There are bigger issues in the world.

Rocco Jones
09-08-2010, 11:48 PM
becmatty please give some respect to spelling of players names, its not difficult.


Haha. Its an ingrained habit from the days of Daniel Hargreaves!

But seriously bornadog, get over it. It would be like me pointing out that you have incorrectly used a comma rather than a colon or full stop in your quote above.

There are bigger issues in the world.

He has been respectful in his request. This site is about the Bulldogs rather than perfect punctation.

bornadog's punctation error is ridiculously lineball.

chef
10-08-2010, 12:09 AM
I believe there was some light training this morning including Harbrow and Hahn having some sprints. I have no other updates though

Lake said tonight that training was cancelled as quite a few players are sick.

becmatty
10-08-2010, 07:09 AM
If Rocket Eade's assertion that Ward, Harbrow, Higgins and Murphy will return is correct, this is how I see the side this week...

Pretty damn strong!

B: Harbrow, Lake, Morris
HB Hargrave Williams, Gilbee
C: Griffen, Boyd, Ward
HF: Murphy, Grant, Giansiracusa
F: Johnson, Hall, Higgins
Foll: Hudson, Cooney, Cross
Int: Picken, Eagleton, Everitt, Roughead
Emerg: Wood, Jones, Moles, Minson (Will return very soon, if not this week), Hahn (not far away), Hill (Owch)

Desipura
10-08-2010, 10:01 AM
Is anyone attending training tonight?

If so, it would be great if you can update us on the status of Murph, Higgins, Harbrow and Ward in particular.

I am struggling to trust the injury reports in the papers, and would be great to hear it first hand from a WOOFer...
Ward had a cortisone injuection on Thursday, will need to have an operation at seasons end. He should be right to play this weekend.

Ozza
10-08-2010, 10:01 AM
Would be very disappointed if Wood was out. His pace will be important against any of Varcoe, Stokes & Byrnes in the backline - and his run and carry may prove important for us also. We've played our best football this year since Wood has been in the side.

I'll be interested tos ee if anyone is rested - but at a guess - if everyone is fine;

In: Harbrow; Murphy
Out; Hill; Jones

Jones has been good - but realistically, is going to struggle to get involved against Geelong.
If Higgins is absolutely ready - then Everitt probably misses.

Mantis
10-08-2010, 10:19 AM
Jones has been good - but realistically, is going to struggle to get involved against Geelong.


Why?

No Taylor means that Scarlett will have to play on Hall.

If Jones can draw Lonergan he might be able to draw him away or even work off him.

Picken Knows
10-08-2010, 10:25 AM
Why?

No Taylor means that Scarlett will have to play on Hall.

If Jones can draw Lonergan he might be able to draw him away or even work off him.

Geelongs 2 weakest links at the moment are Lonergan and Hawkins.

Mantis
10-08-2010, 10:41 AM
Geelongs 2 weakest links at the moment are Lonergan and Hawkins.

So how do we expose them?

Mofra
10-08-2010, 10:50 AM
Why?

No Taylor means that Scarlett will have to play on Hall.

If Jones can draw Lonergan he might be able to draw him away or even work off him.
Scarlett is carrying a shin injury at the moment, and Hall & Jones seem to spread very well so Taylor is a huge out for them.
Grant will be very important in this game - quick forwards are Geelong's biggest concern, and a super quick guy at 192cm should worry them even if he is 33 kgs and inexperienced.

Lake will be another key - I expect he will drift forward at some stage with Taylor out.

Picken Knows
10-08-2010, 10:57 AM
So how do we expose them?

Well as you mentioned Scarlett will take Hall, so I think we need to play both Jones and Grant forward to expose Lonergan and Milburn (who is getting slower by the week).

From what I sure of Hawkins on Saturday, he is massively under done, so if Geelong continue to use him in the ruck, we need to play both Husdon and Roughhead to expose him. When he plays foward, I think we have the players to cover him.

I know you want to rest Hudson and Grant, but I think we need them this week to expose these weaknesses and rest them the following week.

Mantis
10-08-2010, 11:07 AM
Scarlett is carrying a shin injury at the moment, and Hall & Jones seem to spread very well so Taylor is a huge out for them.
Grant will be very important in this game - quick forwards are Geelong's biggest concern, and a super quick guy at 192cm should worry them even if he is 33 kgs and inexperienced.

Lake will be another key - I expect he will drift forward at some stage with Taylor out.


Well as you mentioned Scarlett will take Hall, so I think we need to play both Jones and Grant forward to expose Lonergan and Milburn (who is getting slower by the week).

From what I sure of Hawkins on Saturday, he is massively under done, so if Geelong continue to use him in the ruck, we need to play both Husdon and Roughhead to expose him. When he plays foward, I think we have the players to cover him.

I know you want to rest Hudson and Grant, but I think we need them this week to expose these weaknesses and rest them the following week.

I would much rather Grant expose Geelong in a final and would like to hold him back.

Hudson did a mountain of work against Adelaide (as he has all year) and he needs a rest. I still think Minson & Roughead can do the job, especially if Hawkins plays as the 2nd ruck option, which I think is unlikely.

DOG GOD
10-08-2010, 11:48 AM
So how do we expose them?

I'd almost play Hall as the custom CHF to bring Scarlett out of the defensive FB post and leave Lonergan one out. Need to get Lonergan under extreme pressure to force errors.

Whoever plays on Hawkins (everitt maybe) needs to run off him and create.

DOG GOD
10-08-2010, 11:51 AM
Why risk Higgins and Ward unless they are absolutely 100% fit. Cant believe some are calling for Wood to be dropped. No way will that happen with Varcoe, Byrnes and Stokes to cover, and i thought some of his efforts were fantastic against Adelaide.

So i agree with Ozza

In: Harbrow and Murph
Out: Hill and Jones

The Pie Man
10-08-2010, 12:10 PM
Skinny's good form, while 100% welcome, complicates matters somewhat.

I'm in the rest Hudson camp (especially if we can pull off a win without him and know he's available should we meet again next month) but I think Williams/Everitt can help Roughead out in the ruck.

What I'd do

In : Murphy, Harbrow
Out: Hill (omitted) Hudson (general soreness)

Can't see Ward playing seniors straight away, despite what's been said in the media.

Higgins will lilkely come in for someone like Moles, or maybe Jones (who I'd keep in -honestly, I'd keep both in) Not sure if I'd do it, but I imagine it's more likely than not.

This is one tough week at the selection table!! Who has a gut feeling Skinny will get dropped?

LostDoggy
10-08-2010, 01:45 PM
Roughead to contest rough conduct .. if he loses he gets a week. Seems like a Minson might play anyway this week

Bulldog Revolution
10-08-2010, 01:53 PM
I'm resting Hudson and Grant, and playing as many of the other kids: Jones, Wood, Rough etc as I can

If any of those kids dont play finals then playing Geelong will be a great development experience

For me, like some others, the win is not that important. As long as our intent to both win the ball, and work without it is there, plus we are prepared to take the game on and attack then the result doesn't concern me at all.

LostDoggy
10-08-2010, 02:02 PM
3 things I do know.

1. Hudson needs a rest.
Minson needs to be playing some senior football. Even if Huddo and Roughy are the best combination we still need Minson able to come in if one of them gets injured. I still reckon Huddo and Minson is our best combination for this seasons finals. I actually think any combo with 2 of the three guys is quite good.

2. Josh Hill has gone backwards and should not be playing and has been surpassed by a few others playing their first games this season. Should not play again this year.

3. Wood is important and should be part of the 22 week in and out.

Greystache
10-08-2010, 05:28 PM
It's still a bit of a risk with the random body that is he tribunal, if his charge is upheld it's going to make it difficult to rest Hudson this week if they were going to.

Greystache
10-08-2010, 06:22 PM
I'd be inclined to rest Grant in round 22 against Essendon to get him fresh for finals and play him this week to give him some big game experience. It would be good if we can manipulate match ups so we get Scarlett vs Hall, Lonergan vs Jones, and Milburn vs Grant.

Scarlett doesn't play on the best opposition forward often but with Taylor out he'll have to. Jones won't be exposed to Lonergan and could do some damage the other way, and Grant could badly expose Milburn for pace.

In- Minson, Harbrow, Murphy, Higgins
Out- Hudson, Hill, Moles, Everitt

mjp
10-08-2010, 07:00 PM
3 things I do know.

1. Hudson needs a rest.


How do you know? He was awesome last week - didn't look at all tired to me.

I am all for this 'live to fight another day' strategy, but we are playing Geelong in a massive game this weekend. Want to create some real buzz heading forward? Win and win well.

DOG GOD
10-08-2010, 07:12 PM
We need to WIN well, until our top 4 position is GUARRANTEED. It isnt yet.

Bumper Bulldogs
10-08-2010, 09:22 PM
We need to WIN well, until our top 4 position is GUARRANTEED. It isnt yet.

Spot on and I think that the boys will be pumped to put the demons "of not beating anyone above us" to bed. That said if we loss it's not the end of the world ether.

It will also be important to get Grant, Wood & Roughy a game on the big stage.

Not sure about matchup & fitness but I would drop Hill with Harbrow coming in. If Roughy get the week in comes Murphy.

I thought that the Cats didn't like the pace and link up from the pies last week. As others have said get Skinny to do some ruck duties and just blow them away.

becmatty
10-08-2010, 09:49 PM
Roughead found NOT GUILTY after a successful challenge at the tribunal tonight...

Does this mean Minson has no chance of a recall this week, or still a possibility?

The Coon Dog
10-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Roughead found NOT GUILTY after a successful challenge at the tribunal tonight...

Does this mean Minson has no chance of a recall this week, or still a possibility?

I reckon he might be a chance to play.

becmatty
11-08-2010, 07:36 AM
Many of us expect Harbrow to return this week, but Jason Akermanis' Herald-Sun story about double meanings in football that he calls a "footy spin" has got me worried.

In it, Aker spoke of coded messages and how clubs say one thing when they really mean another, or are hiding the truth.

He finished it with this veiled quote:

"Be mightily wary of any quote from anyone connected with a football club that contains the word "flu"."

...I hope this is an uninformed cheap shot and not inside knowledge of something more sinsiter involving Harbrow...

chef
11-08-2010, 07:58 AM
Many of us expect Harbrow to return this week, but Jason Akermanis' Herald-Sun story about double meanings in football that he calls a "footy spin" has got me worried.

In it, Aker spoke of coded messages and how clubs say one thing when they really mean another, or are hiding the truth.

He finished it with this veiled quote:

"Be mightily wary of any quote from anyone connected with a football club that contains the word "flu"."

...I hope this is an uninformed cheap shot and not inside knowledge of something more sinsiter involving Harbrow...

According to Mark Steven's in today's H/S

'Meanwhile, defender Jarrod Harbrow is a chance to return from a cork above his knee against the Cats.

He also was a late withdrawal with a virus against North Melbourne in Round 18, and was injured at training in the lead-up to the Crows match'

Flamethrower
11-08-2010, 08:01 AM
SEN are reporting that 4 players were absent from training with flu-like symptoms. Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee and Morris - all are in doubt for Saturday's game.

choconmientay
11-08-2010, 08:14 AM
SEN are reporting that 4 players were absent from training with flu-like symptoms. Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee and Morris - all are in doubt for Saturday's game.

The Age reported here (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/key-bulldogs-may-miss-top-clash-with-illness-20100810-11y5a.html)

"Yesterday training was cancelled when it became clear that not only Hudson but Ryan Hargrave had become extremely ill among the playing group, along with several key Bulldog staffers."

''And when we saw the weather report we moved Wednesday's session indoors to Altona,'' said Eade, who said he had suffered only from a light cold over the past week while his assistant Peter Dean and physical conditioning boss Bill Davoren had been away from the club for the entire week.

''Lindsay Gilbee and Dale Morris had both completely lost their voices by the end of the Adelaide game and haven't regained them and, although he didn't tell us at the time, Liam Picken couldn't breathe.


I have a bad feeling about this weekend game. No one can recover that quickly from a flu virus :(

LostDoggy
11-08-2010, 09:22 AM
Sometimes the flu goes away after a couple of days rest. And these guys get professional help to recover as ast as possible. So i think the majority will be fine by Saturday.

becmatty
11-08-2010, 10:39 AM
It is sounding like Hudson, Cooney and Hargrave are the most likely to miss with the flu.

Gilbee, Picken and Morris are reportedly on the up. It is expected that Higgins and Murphy will be alright. Let's hope these five are 100% by Saturday.

If that is the case, it makes the MC's decision a little easier and I am sure that Moles, Wood, Everitt and Jones will be sleeping a little better.

Nothing will save Hill though.

My revised (again!) changes for the game based on this information is:

In: Minson, Ward, Higgins, Murphy, Harbrow
Out: Hudson, Hill, Cooney, Hargrave, ??

BornInDroopSt'54
11-08-2010, 11:41 AM
Sometimes the flu goes away after a couple of days rest. And these guys get professional help to recover as ast as possible. So i think the majority will be fine by Saturday.

My doctor tells me there's three strains circulating atm. One is the swine flu. The one I got I've had in changing forms for three weeks with ten days of lungs choked with fluid without a secondary infection. This flu would severely affect an athlete's performance. It's a challenge just to lie in bed.

Curly5
11-08-2010, 12:34 PM
I'm not just talking about dropping him, id take it through to its logical conclusion, trade him.

No no no, give the poor lad time to get some confidence and develop. He's only 21 and a shy sort of fellow. Look at Varcoe, he was pretty hopeless for quite a while but has really stepped up this year with maturity.



Many of us expect Harbrow to return this week, but Jason Akermanis' Herald-Sun story about double meanings in football that he calls a "footy spin" has got me worried.

In it, Aker spoke of coded messages and how clubs say one thing when they really mean another, or are hiding the truth.

He finished it with this veiled quote:

"Be mightily wary of any quote from anyone connected with a football club that contains the word "flu"."

...I hope this is an uninformed cheap shot and not inside knowledge of something more sinister involving Harbrow...

Not only Harbrow, but this person seems to be hinting that anything the Bulldogs say is likely to be untrue, even though he disguises it by saying "clubs". I think he's got it wrong though, about the current epidemic at the club, unfortunately it seems to be all too true. :(



It is sounding like Hudson, Cooney and Hargrave are the most likely to miss with the flu.

Gilbee, Picken and Morris are reportedly on the up. It is expected that Higgins and Murphy will be alright. Let's hope these five are 100% by Saturday.

If that is the case, it makes the MC's decision a little easier and I am sure that Moles, Wood, Everitt and Jones will be sleeping a little better.

Nothing will save Hill though.

My revised (again!) changes for the game based on this information is:

In: Minson, Ward, Higgins, Murphy, Harbrow
Out: Hudson, Hill, Cooney, Hargrave, ??

Hill may get a reprieve if he's the last man standing. ;) I won't mind and one day you'll all eat your words. :D

I'd also like Hudson to get a proper chance to recover, and Big Will can show his wares. It's not good for these guys to play too soon with these sorts of viruses, it only prolongs the recovery and can affect the health long-term. This game is not as important as the ones coming up in September and we want everyone fully fit.

becmatty
11-08-2010, 08:20 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

chef
11-08-2010, 08:25 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

I like:)

Mitcha
11-08-2010, 08:25 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...
Some good ins there.

Bumper Bulldogs
11-08-2010, 08:53 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

I'm feeling a little like Everitt...... Still cant get a Bloody game!:D

choconmientay
11-08-2010, 09:09 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

now all the guys listed as "in" should "put your money where your mouth is" :) ... and this will stuff up my SuperCoach team for sure...

Sockeye Salmon
11-08-2010, 09:28 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

That's crap. I want a trade to Brisbane, as a too old underachiever at least I know Voss will want me.

Greystache
11-08-2010, 09:46 PM
As a slightly undersized key position player lacking pace and pushing 30 I'm outraged I couldn't get a game. That's it, I'm nominating for the rookie draft so I can be picked up by Hawthorn!

EasternWest
11-08-2010, 10:34 PM
Many of us expect Harbrow to return this week, but Jason Akermanis' Herald-Sun story about double meanings in football that he calls a "footy spin" has got me worried.

In it, Aker spoke of coded messages and how clubs say one thing when they really mean another, or are hiding the truth.

He finished it with this veiled quote:

"Be mightily wary of any quote from anyone connected with a football club that contains the word "flu"."

...I hope this is an uninformed cheap shot and not inside knowledge of something more sinsiter involving Harbrow...

You could replace the word "flu" with the title "becmatty", and it would still read correctly :D.

AndrewP6
11-08-2010, 10:53 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

I heard Eade is also affected. So:

OUT: Eade
IN: AndrewP6

LostDoggy
12-08-2010, 12:38 AM
I can play both CHF and CHB :P

Desipura
12-08-2010, 09:24 AM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...
Glad to finally get a call up. I have a piercing left foot, like most left footers, I cant kick all too well on my right.
I have 10 odd years on Pods, mature age seems to be all the rage at the moment.

Mofra
12-08-2010, 10:30 AM
You could replace the word "flu" with the title "becmatty", and it would still read correctly :D.
Hey, 1 in 426 of the weekly predictions has to be right sooner or later ;)


In any case, the only reason I haven't been listed as part of the Ins is that I'm heading to GC17 next year

Desipura
12-08-2010, 12:48 PM
Hey, 1 in 426 of the weekly predictions has to be right sooner or later ;)
In any case, the only reason I haven't been listed as part of the Ins is that I'm heading to GC17 next year

Is that because you are not good enough and the Suns want the remainders? :D

Mofra
12-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Is that because you are not good enough and the Suns want the remainders? :D
It's me or Harbrow who goes, and I have no problems with going for the cash :cool:

Curly5
12-08-2010, 01:29 PM
Haha, yep, I agree, any more speculation and my head will explode.

Having said that, I bumped into one of the ill trainers at the Melton doctor's clinic who said that with so many players sick, the MC is considring all options. He hinted this is possible:

Out: (all with flu): Cooney, Hudson, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave, Picken, Boyd, Moles

In: Mantis, Desipura, The Coon Dog, Da Druid, Danstar, Chef, Becmatty, Bornindroopst'54

Only time will tell...

It soitenly will.

Some years ago, during a string of losses that seemed to be happening regularly around that time, I and my friends Larry6 and Moe7 volunteered for the bench for a game against Port. We didn't quite get a run, hope you have better luck ... :D.

Desipura
12-08-2010, 02:30 PM
It's me or Harbrow who goes, and I have no problems with going for the cash :cool:
Taking a hit for the team, you are so unselfish. :D

Sedat
12-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Many of us expect Harbrow to return this week, but Jason Akermanis' Herald-Sun story about double meanings in football that he calls a "footy spin" has got me worried.
Just as well Aker wrote this in the Herald Sun instead of mentioning it during his MTR spot, otherwise literally nobody would have heard it.

ledge
12-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Can i fill in for our doctor if he is sick?
I mean I am bald, a little podgy and have hung out in Droop street once or twice.

KT31
12-08-2010, 04:07 PM
Glad to finally get a call up. I have a piercing left foot, like most left footers, I cant kick all too well on my right.
I have 10 odd years on Pods, mature age seems to be all the rage at the moment.

Are you The Eagle ?:D

Chicago1
12-08-2010, 04:38 PM
It soitenly will.

Some years ago, during a string of losses that seemed to be happening regularly around that time, I and my friends Larry6 and Moe7 volunteered for the bench for a game against Port. We didn't quite get a run, hope you have better luck ... :D.

Get a run? You three oldies couldn't work up to a slow trot with your canes and walkers. :p

Hi Curly!

Desipura
12-08-2010, 04:45 PM
Are you The Eagle ?:D
I actually was going to initially say I perform against the better sides but thought that was too harsh

Desipura
13-08-2010, 10:22 AM
Now I am really worried that he may not play. :D

Ahhh BecMatty, please dont say a player is 100% going to play. Harbrow is out.

mjp
13-08-2010, 11:25 AM
Ahhh BecMatty, please dont say a player is 100% going to play. Harbrow is out.

What? Do you mean that when Rocket said in an interview on the AFL website that Harbrow would be back this week, he wasn't necessarily telling 100% of the truth?

Hang on. I'm feeling feint.

I wonder what is wrong with him this week? Flu, shoulder or quad? Surely a corkie copped at training wouldn't lead to a two week absence or have the club decided that is the story and they are sticking too it.

LostDoggy
13-08-2010, 12:04 PM
They said it has bled into the knee...

Cyberdoggie
13-08-2010, 12:07 PM
I would much rather Grant expose Geelong in a final and would like to hold him back.

I'm getting that impression as well that he has been deliberately left out of this game because we have a good chance of playing Geelong in the finals and as the Cats haven't had the opportunity to play on Grant yet, then we might as well not give them a chance until the finals.


I think Jones is more of a potential threat closer to goal and in the air (not that he has shown it at AFL level yet) and will be a good secondary option to Hall, as Barry will find it tough this weekend against Scarlett.

Mantis
13-08-2010, 02:33 PM
They said it has bled into the knee...

Harbrow trained this morning, he wasn't doing all the drills, but moved ok so he should be available to play next week.

bornadog
13-08-2010, 02:44 PM
Harbrow trained this morning, he wasn't doing all the drills, but moved ok so he should be available to play next week.

Mother in law tells me one of his close relatives, ( in Mooroopna) on the fathers side died last week, she thought it could be his grandmother. Don't know if he missed games for that reason ornot.

Desipura
13-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Mother in law tells me one of his close relatives, ( in Mooroopna) on the fathers side died last week, she thought it could be his grandmother. Don't know if he missed games for that reason ornot.
I had to read this a few times. I did not know whether you were joking or not.
You know a friend of a friend of a friend type thing......

BornInDroopSt'54
13-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Mother in law tells me one of his close relatives, ( in Mooroopna) on the fathers side died last week, she thought it could be his grandmother. Don't know if he missed games for that reason ornot.

Does the mother in law on the fathers side know she is a grandmother?

Desipura
13-08-2010, 03:40 PM
Does the mother in law on the fathers side know she is a grandmother?

Only on weekends.

bornadog
13-08-2010, 04:18 PM
I had to read this a few times. I did not know whether you were joking or not.
You know a friend of a friend of a friend type thing......


Does the mother in law on the fathers side know she is a grandmother?

Ok, MY mother inlaw told me about Harbrow's relative, on Harbrows fathers side. Get it:D

becmatty
13-08-2010, 09:32 PM
Wth Corey now out, it evens the Cooney loss to some extent.

It sounds like Gilbee is no chance either though. Do we bring in Hill or Addison as a late change if this happens?

bornadog
13-08-2010, 09:36 PM
Wth Corey now out, it evens the Cooney loss to some extent.

It sounds like Gilbee is no chance either though. Do we bring in Hill or Addison as a late change if this happens?

Addison

Mantis
13-08-2010, 09:57 PM
It sounds like Gilbee is no chance either though. Do we bring in Hill or Addison as a late change if this happens?

Why is Gilbee no chance?

And where the f**k do you get your info.?

Rocco Jones
13-08-2010, 09:59 PM
Why is Gilbee no chance?

And where the f**k do you get your info.?

Phew! Adds some hope to my SC chances!

becmatty
13-08-2010, 10:06 PM
Its been well documented that Gilbee was hardest hit with the flu and facing a massive uphill battle to play.

GVGjr
13-08-2010, 10:09 PM
Wth Corey now out, it evens the Cooney loss to some extent.

It sounds like Gilbee is no chance either though. Do we bring in Hill or Addison as a late change if this happens?


Why is Gilbee no chance?

And where the f**k do you get your info.?

He did say it sounds like.

Mantis
13-08-2010, 10:09 PM
Its been well documented that Gilbee was hardest hit with the flu and facing a massive uphill battle to play.

I was at training today and Gilbee seemed fine.

If I was a betting man I would be betting that he plays.

Desipura
14-08-2010, 12:29 PM
He did say it sounds like.
Oh is BecMatty a he?
BecMatty, please tell me which 6 tattslotto numbers will not come up tonight?

azabob
14-08-2010, 12:37 PM
Oh is BecMatty a he?
BecMatty, please tell me which 6 tattslotto numbers will not come up tonight?

Gee your so funny, Not.

Desipura
14-08-2010, 02:17 PM
Gee your so funny, Not.
Tell me why I care the slightest what you think?:rolleyes:

Curly5
14-08-2010, 07:55 PM
Get a run? You three oldies couldn't work up to a slow trot with your canes and walkers. :p

Hi Curly!

Gee thanks, Chicago1, I did say it was a few years ago! When we see you at the GF the Three Stooges will cross canes with you then. :D