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bornadog
10-08-2011, 01:00 PM
Jon Ralph From: Herald Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/who-your-club-could-poach-under-free-agency/story-fn6cisdj-1226111932297)

CHRIS JUDD described next year's free agency as "Mickey Mouse'' on Monday and in some ways he is right.

A raft of caveats are attached to keep clubs happy, including teams being able to match offers - and therefore keep stars - if a player has only eight or nine years of service, and are also in the top 25 per cent pay bracket at his club.

Therefore it is the ten-year stars where the real action will happen at the end of next year.

And for battling clubs, that is where Mick Malthouse's prophecy about raids from the AFL's superpowers could come true.

If a player is out of contract after 10 years at one club, his existing team has no rights to keep him.

Just as a player like Chris Tarrant went to Collingwood for the base wage this year, players could go chasing premierships.

So who is available?

Who could your club poach at the end of next year without their club matching their deal?

Below is the list of players who get to ten years service next year.

How about Brendon Goddard for a start?

He had a contract until 2010 which was extended until the end of 2012, which in principle means he will have served ten years at St Kilda and be an unrestricted free agent.

No wonder clubs including GWS will come with massive offers for him.

The problem with the first year of free agency for 10-year players is that players need to have come out of contract in the past two years to qualify as unrestricted free agents.

In other words, they need to have officially qualified as a restricted free agents (eight years' service), before they are restricted free agents with 10 years' service.

Goddard, who extended his contract before it expired, would seem to tick that box.

A player, who after six years signs a four-year deal, is only a restricted free agent when that deal expires.

Bloody confusing, isn’t it?

A raft of players who qualify for 10 years of service won't have first been restricted free agents, or are contracted past the end of 2011.

Nick Dal Santo, Alan Didak and Hamish McIntosh only come out of contract at the end of 2012.

Matthew Pavlich recently re-signed a four-year deal.

Kade Simpson signed another three-year deal only last week.

So it's not just who has hit 10 years, it's who is available.

But for the sake of the exercise, here are all the players who hit the 10-year mark, and will have rival clubs salivating when they do come out of contract.

From the 2002 national draft:

Brendon Goddard, Daniel Wells, Jarrad McVeigh, Steven Salopek, Andrew Mackie, Hamish McIntosh, Jason Winderlich, Will Minson, Tom Lonergan, Jared Rivers, Daniel Merrett, Jobe Watson, Brett Ebert, Kade Simpson, Adam Selwood, Ryan Crowley, Nick Malceski, Ben Rutten, Aaron Sandilands, Quinten Lynch, Mark Jamar, Bret Thornton, Roger Hayden.


2001 national draft:

Luke Hodge, Jimmy Bartel, Nick Dal Santo, Rick Ladson, James Kelly, Jason Gram, Sam Mitchell, Leigh Montagna, Jarrad Waite, Andrew Welsh, Brian Lake.


2000 national draft:

Nick Riewoldt, Justin Koschitzke, Alan Didak, Daniel Kerr, Drew Petrie, Josh Hunt, Chris Newman, Daniel Cross, Graham Johncock, Dean Cox.


1999 national draft:

Matthew Pavlich, Rhyce Shaw, Brad Green, Jason Blake, Jonathan Brown, Paul Chapman.

Twodogs
12-08-2011, 01:12 PM
No wonder clubs including GWS will come with massive offers for him.



Oh no it's the boogey monster!!! Every club with the cash will come looking for the best players, not just GWS. I'm getting sick of hearing about them and they havent played a bloody game yet. I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.



Will Minson,


Brian Lake.


Daniel Cross,


No one's going to take a clapped out Brian Lake of us at the money he'll be getting and if he can come good and play good footy then he'll deserve the money he get's. Not all that stressed about the other two over that timeline.

Greystache
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Lake's contracted until he's 32, free agency is irrelevant.

Cross has zero market value, Minson has minimal at best.

We're in a pretty good position when free agency comes in, at least initially.

AndrewP6
10-05-2012, 10:45 PM
Just mentioned by Damian Barrett on the Footy Show, that GWS are only 'lukewarm' on Travis Cloke, however a new player has raised their hand. None other than...the Western Bulldogs!!!! The Club unsurprisingly made no comment when asked, however it was indicated that they had definitely inquired as to what it would take to get Cloke.

Quite possibly meaningless, but interesting nonetheless.

Remi Moses
10-05-2012, 11:57 PM
Old man David is using other clubs as a bargaining chip for his boy.
He'll stay at Collingwood, if he does go it will be Fremantle.
GWS have Young Patton and Cameron as their keys for the next decade!!

chef
11-05-2012, 07:54 AM
Just mentioned by Damian Barrett on the Footy Show, that GWS are only 'lukewarm' on Travis Cloke, however a new player has raised their hand. None other than...the Western Bulldogs!!!! The Club unsurprisingly made no comment when asked, however it was indicated that they had definitely inquired as to what it would take to get Cloke.

Quite possibly meaningless, but interesting nonetheless.

Free agent or a trade?

LostDoggy
11-05-2012, 08:39 AM
Sounds more like Cloke to the Western Bulldogs.
1000/1 I say

Sydney Bulldog
11-05-2012, 11:03 AM
As long as the free agency is good for us, that's all I am happy about.

bornadog
11-05-2012, 11:06 AM
As long as the free agency is good for us, that's all I am happy about.

Welcome to the Board Sydney Bulldog.

G-Mo77
11-05-2012, 11:17 AM
Just mentioned by Damian Barrett on the Footy Show, that GWS are only 'lukewarm' on Travis Cloke, however a new player has raised their hand. None other than...the Western Bulldogs!!!! The Club unsurprisingly made no comment when asked, however it was indicated that they had definitely inquired as to what it would take to get Cloke.

Quite possibly meaningless, but interesting nonetheless.

Didn't that idiot Hutchy say we should go after him Monday night? It wouldn't surprise me another idiot in Barrett is taking Hutchy's comments as our apparent interest. Crocmedia at its finest right there.

There is no way Cloke will be at the Dogs next year and you can bookmark this.

Desipura
11-05-2012, 12:09 PM
Sounds more like Cloke to the Western Bulldogs.
1000/1 I say
I would say 10,000/1. Why would he want to come to us for an extra 200k? We would have to pay him a huge salary which even Collingwood could not afford, which he is not worth. The difference between Jones and Cloke in terms of ability may not be that great in 2 years time, well I am hoping anyway.

Sydney Bulldog
11-05-2012, 03:41 PM
Welcome to the Board Sydney Bulldog.

Cheers mate.

bornadog
14-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Bump


Jon Ralph From: Herald Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/who-your-club-could-poach-under-free-agency/story-fn6cisdj-1226111932297)

But for the sake of the exercise, here are all the players who hit the 10-year mark, and will have rival clubs salivating when they do come out of contract.

From the 2002 national draft:

Brendon Goddard, Daniel Wells, Jarrad McVeigh, Steven Salopek, Andrew Mackie, Hamish McIntosh, Jason Winderlich, Will Minson, Tom Lonergan, Jared Rivers, Daniel Merrett, Jobe Watson, Brett Ebert, Kade Simpson, Adam Selwood, Ryan Crowley, Nick Malceski, Ben Rutten, Aaron Sandilands, Quinten Lynch, Mark Jamar, Bret Thornton, Roger Hayden.


2001 national draft:

Luke Hodge, Jimmy Bartel, Nick Dal Santo, Rick Ladson, James Kelly, Jason Gram, Sam Mitchell, Leigh Montagna, Jarrad Waite, Andrew Welsh, Brian Lake.


2000 national draft:

Nick Riewoldt, Justin Koschitzke, Alan Didak, Daniel Kerr, Drew Petrie, Josh Hunt, Chris Newman, Daniel Cross, Graham Johncock, Dean Cox.


1999 national draft:

Matthew Pavlich, Rhyce Shaw, Brad Green, Jason Blake, Jonathan Brown, Paul Chapman.

Should we be going for any of these players? Some have signed since.

chef
15-08-2012, 07:15 AM
Bump



Should we be going for any of these players? Some have signed since.

No. The only FA I really want to go after is a KPF, but there's not really any there apart from Pav, Brown, Petrie, Roo and Kozzie who aren't going anywhere.