2020 Draft Points Thread

I thought I'd explain the draft points situation for next year.

There are four priority access players: (pick value is a guesstamation at this point)

Ugle-Hagan (say pick 3)
Stevens (say pick 25)
MacPherson (say pick 30)
Raak (say pick 35)

That means JUH 2,234 (less 20% discount) = 1,788
Stevens 756 (less 197 point discount) = 559
Macca 629 (less 197 point discount) = 432
Raak 522 (less 197 point discount) = 325
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Total Needed: 3,104



Say we finish a bit higher next year, with say pick 14, 32, 50 & 68. That's 1,161, 584, 273 & 59 points =
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Held Draft Points 2,077


Deficit of 1,027 draft points.


If we do nothing, this deficit will kill our 2021 first rounder. If we trade picks away on trades for players, it will kill our 2021 1st & 2nd rounders. I don't like the sound of that at all, hence I don't advocate trading any picks next year unless there's a draft points trade.

My two options are, as per other threads, getting St Kilda's 2020 second rounder by facilitating them with picks to get the players they want from other clubs. That's worth about 700 draft points. So we are still more than 300 draft points in deficit.

So I'd trade our 2020 1st (14) & 4th (68) to GCS for their 2nd, 3rd & 4th. 1,220 draft points go out. But 948 (19), 483 (37) & 207 (55) draft points come in. That's 1,638 draft points coming in. That brings in 418 extra draft points.

Thus these 418 points narrowly avoid a deficit, and our 2021 first rounder being impacted, reduced or eliminated.


So to me the key is not trading out any picks from 2020, brining in another second rounder with St Kilda looking a decent chance and then draft points trading either this year or next to send out our first rounder for 300-400 more draft points seeing as Ugle-Hagan will burn through that pick immediately. With no deficit, our 2021 first rounder in tact and some potential retirements by then, we have good picks and some salary cap to do whatever is best in 2021.

But this is just my overview.

I must admit that a lot of this goes right over my head.
Your other posts on drafting I just glaze over and that's me trying to comprehend not your posting.
But this post actually makes more sense to me.
Thank you. :)

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Originally Posted by Hotdog60

I must admit that a lot of this goes right over my head.
Your other posts on drafting I just glaze over and that's me trying to comprehend not your posting.
But this post actually makes more sense to me.
Thank you. :)

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You're most welcome my bulldog friend.

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Originally Posted by bulldogtragic

You're most welcome my bulldog friend.

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I too would be lost without your threads on picks/points, trading, drafting, etc. I have been lazy to not go into it and work out the mathematics of it all, I just rely on you. Keep up the good work. :)

BT is WOOF god.

Looking at other options for a 2020 second rounder... Fremantle.

They have picks 6, 24 & 78.

Say they get pick 5 from St Kilda for Hill, but have to hand back pick 24. After using picks 5 & 6 (assuming Kelly goes to WCE as he wants) that leaves them with no draft points for their NGA Liam Henry tipped to be bid on the teens. That's about 1,000 draft points. Our picks 41 & 46 is about 740 draft points. What they get for Ed Langdon is combined with our traded 740 points and ensures that they pick up Henry with no draft points deficit, and a later pick better than 78.

If they wanted the points this year from Pick 41 & 46, the points equate to Pick 26 on the DVI. Their second rounder might be worth 26-28. So with us using draft points next year, it's essentially a reciprocal draft points trade where both clubs get about the same number of draft points in 2019 (Freo) & 2020 (Dogs). With our recent good trading relationship with Freo, this might be an option if Freo trade pick 24 out for any reason.

Thank you for this post BT - clearly explains something bloody complex. I was a huge advocate for trading next years pick before reading this.

BT gee you make it look easy great job mate thank you .

Thanks BT ... really appreciate your posts re draft points, trades et al.

Have you ever thought of applying for a job with the Western Bulldogs in their recruiting team? You got the stuff :cool:

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Originally Posted by Scraggers

Thanks BT ... really appreciate your posts re draft points, trades et al.

Have you ever thought of applying for a job with the Western Bulldogs in their recruiting team? You got the stuff :cool:

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I wish! And I'd even do it for free.