Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Scorlibo
What good half-back doesn't give their lesser skilled teammates the option to handball? Bob Murphy has been doing this for years, and to good effect.
Club champion awards have to mean something, don't they? Usually the stat haters love the best and fairest. Lids has won 2 in bottom 8 teams. Richmond have been too often travelling uphill to have downhill skiers win best and fairests.
Do you honestly think that being a good HBF should be Deledio's ceiling given his talent level?
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Do you honestly think that being a good HBF should be Deledio's ceiling given his talent level?
I don't think that's the argument.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
I don't think that's the argument.
Well it is to a large extent, that and also that he can't stop his man as a HBF.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Sedat
I see in Deledio a player who can be devastating when given latitude, but whenever any serious defensive work is put into him he has caved in time and again throughout his career. September is not the place for players who struggle with defensive pressure and a lack of time and space.
I always envisage the number Picken always did on Deledio a few years ago.
Funny people comparing Griffen to him, and many a few years ago had him ahead of Griff.
Griffen's gone miles ahead, plays well in the middle in a poor team where as Deledio plays that soft easy half back role.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
What good half-back doesn't give their lesser skilled teammates the option to handball? Bob Murphy has been doing this for years, and to good effect.
Club champion awards have to mean something, don't they? Usually the stat haters love the best and fairest. Lids has won 2 in bottom 8 teams. Richmond have been too often travelling uphill to have downhill skiers win best and fairests.
Gifted player but poor defensively and too easily tagged out of a game. This is the area Griff has improved markedly in over the last two years. As for the Murphy comparison, you're right but I think Murph has shown a better ability to overcome tight tags.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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always right
Gifted player but poor defensively and too easily tagged out of a game. This is the area Griff has improved markedly in over the last two years. As for the Murphy comparison, you're right but I think Murph has shown a better ability to overcome tight tags.
And despite the love Bulldog supporters hold for Murphy, he's not a match winner, merely icing.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Greystache
And despite the love Bulldog supporters hold for Murphy, he's not a match winner, merely icing.
Murphy can defend too, Jared Petrenko is still in tears and hasn't left his room after the job Bob did on him.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Happy Days
Murphy can defend too, Jared Petrenko is still in tears and hasn't left his room after the job Bob did on him.
Murphy has his moments defensively. He does get exposed from time to time, but it's not hard to be better defensively than Deledio (or even in a contested situation) and Murphy certainly is.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Greystache
And despite the love Bulldog supporters hold for Murphy, he's not a match winner, merely icing.
Hmmm. I remember watching Bob play forward a few years ago and kick multiple goals in minutes. He could turn a game pretty quickly if he was on.
Times have changed though.
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As a forward he's a match winner.
As a defender he sets up for the matchwinners.
The thing about Murph is that he is a beacon when things aren't always going well for the team. Sure he makes some mistakes but is there a player you enjoy watching more than Murph when he's under pressure?
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1eyedog
Hmmm. I remember watching Bob play forward a few years ago and kick multiple goals in minutes. He could turn a game pretty quickly if he was on.
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always right
As a forward he's a match winner.
As a defender he sets up for the matchwinners.
And Deledio can't play as a forward because he can't cope with an opponent, so ergo he's just icing for the actual match winners. Which brings us back to the start, Deledio is the player you don't want when things get tough.
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
Semi Finals
Friday 16th September 2013
Geelong V Port Adelaide MCG
Winner to play Hawthorn at the MCG in Prelim Final
Saturday 17th September 2013
Sydney V Carlton ANZ Stadium
Winner to play Fremantle at Patersons Satdium in Prelim Final
Re: 2013 AFL Finals Series
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Eastdog
Semi Finals
Friday 16th September 2013
Geelong V Port Adelaide MCG
Winner to play Hawthorn at the MCG in Prelim Final
Saturday 17th September 2013
Sydney V Carlton ANZ Stadium
Winner to play Fremantle at Subiaco Oval in Prelim Final
I bet Hawks will be barracking for Port:D
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bornadog
I bet Hawks will be barracking for Port:D
I'm sure they will be. I reckon the Cats will win and based of past matches they would be favourites to win unless Hawthorn can break the curse.
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Eastdog
I'm sure they will be. I reckon the Cats will win and based of past matches they would be favourites to win unless Hawthorn can break the curse.
Wouldn't that be nice, Geelong beat the Hawks after they only lost three games for the season.